DC Tom Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I remebered a poll that around 30% of R's believed Obama wasn't born here. Didn't think it was as high as 51%. There were a good number of Democrats who were "truthers" as well. People love a good conspiracy. 30% sounds about right - for Republican birthers and Democratic truthers. Roughly one-third of people being completely bug!@#$ stupid seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 30% sounds about right - for Republican birthers and Democratic truthers. Roughly one-third of people being completely bug!@#$ stupid seems about right. About 15% far right and 15% far left and 70% in the middle (not necessarily agreeing on everything but able to have discussion and compromise) never getting the country going? Sounds about right to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Man, how bad did the right look during the whole birther thing?? LMAO. And some are still holding on! RIP Breitbart!!!! Anyone remotely familiar with the work of Andrew Breitbart, is aware that he did not agree or promote the "Birther" nonsense From the article released today: “Andrew Breitbart was never a ‘Birther,’ and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of ‘Birtherism:’” In fact, Andrew believed, as we do, that President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961. Yet Andrew also believed that the complicit mainstream media had refused to examine President Obama’s ideological past, or the carefully crafted persona he and his advisers had constructed for him. It is for that reason that we launched “The Vetting,” an ongoing series in which we explore the ideological background of President Obama (and other presidential candidates)–not to re-litigate 2008, but because ideas and actions have consequences. It is also in that spirit that we discovered, and now present, the booklet described below–one that includes a marketing pitch for a forthcoming book by a then-young, otherwise unknown former president of the Harvard Law Review. It is evidence–not of the President’s foreign origin, but that Barack Obama’s public persona has perhaps been presented differently at different times. The Media narrative about today's release is not what this is really about. No one is denying the Birth Certificate exists, or even that it is genuine. Brite's article said repeatedly he was NOT doing that. Of course, many have ignored all of that, because it's inconvenient. The issue...AGAIN, since many seem to insist on not grasping this, is that Obama and his 'team' has a history of manipulating his own past to say what they WANT to be true, instead of what IS true. Now, how is this different from what Elisabeth Warren did with HER biography in Mass? The only question is, was this fabricated with Obama's knowledge, or not. And if it was NOT at the time, then why did it stand until 2007? How could he NOT have looked at it over most of a decade and corrected it? Would you have let obviously factual errors in YOUR biography stand so long. So spin, dance, and deny, but this IS a legitimate vetting issue, completely apart from 'birtherism.' Its about the media. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Anyone remotely familiar with the work of Andrew Breitbart, is aware that he did not agree or promote the "Birther" nonsense From the article released today: The Media narrative about today's release is not what this is really about. No one is denying the Birth Certificate exists, or even that it is genuine. Brite's article said repeatedly he was NOT doing that. Of course, many have ignored all of that, because it's inconvenient. The issue...AGAIN, since many seem to insist on not grasping this, is that Obama and his 'team' has a history of manipulating his own past to say what they WANT to be true, instead of what IS true. Now, how is this different from what Elisabeth Warren did with HER biography in Mass? The only question is, was this fabricated with Obama's knowledge, or not. And if it was NOT at the time, then why did it stand until 2007? How could he NOT have looked at it over most of a decade and corrected it? Would you have let obviously factual errors in YOUR biography stand so long. So spin, dance, and deny, but this IS a legitimate vetting issue, completely apart from 'birtherism.' Its about the media. . Do you really expect him to understand what you just wrote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 So rasmussen cool but not PPP? You call yourself "a pollster guy" and think Rasmussen = PPP? Maybe by "pollster guy" you mean you prefer guys who dance on polls because no one who follows polls would ever see Rasmussen and PPP as equals. Rasmussen has consistently proven, after the facts, to be one of the most accurate pollsters in the world. PPP still shows Barack Obama's approval rating at about 76% (among non-registered not-likely-to-vote OWS tent-dwellers). But hey...it's 76%!!! PPP is like CBS or Fox. And that's being generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjl2nd Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Anyone remotely familiar with the work of Andrew Breitbart, is aware that he did not agree or promote the "Birther" nonsense From the article released today: The Media narrative about today's release is not what this is really about. No one is denying the Birth Certificate exists, or even that it is genuine. Brite's article said repeatedly he was NOT doing that. Of course, many have ignored all of that, because it's inconvenient. The issue...AGAIN, since many seem to insist on not grasping this, is that Obama and his 'team' has a history of manipulating his own past to say what they WANT to be true, instead of what IS true. Now, how is this different from what Elisabeth Warren did with HER biography in Mass? The only question is, was this fabricated with Obama's knowledge, or not. And if it was NOT at the time, then why did it stand until 2007? How could he NOT have looked at it over most of a decade and corrected it? Would you have let obviously factual errors in YOUR biography stand so long. So spin, dance, and deny, but this IS a legitimate vetting issue, completely apart from 'birtherism.' Its about the media. . If he has a history of this, name 3-5 things without research. You call yourself "a pollster guy" and think Rasmussen = PPP? Maybe by "pollster guy" you mean you prefer guys who dance on polls because no one who follows polls would ever see Rasmussen and PPP as equals. Rasmussen has consistently proven, after the facts, to be one of the most accurate pollsters in the world. PPP still shows Barack Obama's approval rating at about 76% (among non-registered not-likely-to-vote OWS tent-dwellers). But hey...it's 76%!!! PPP is like CBS or Fox. And that's being generous. Rasmussen Polls Were Biased and Inaccurate; Quinnipiac, SurveyUSA Performed Strongly Rasmussen Poll on Wisconsin Dispute May Be Biased Edited May 18, 2012 by fjl2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 If he has a history of this, name 3-5 things without research. Rasmussen Polls Were Biased and Inaccurate; Quinnipiac, SurveyUSA Performed Strongly Rasmussen Poll on Wisconsin Dispute May Be Biased Nice. Post 2 links to a former baseball stat boy that had worked for Daily Kos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Why is Barry's college transcript sealed? And can someone get it unsealed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) 30% sounds about right - for Republican birthers and Democratic truthers. Roughly one-third of people being completely bug!@#$ stupid seems about right. It wasn't until just today that I realized that George W. Bush killed Donna Summer. Edited May 18, 2012 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjl2nd Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Nice. Post 2 links to a former baseball stat boy that had worked for Daily Kos. Polls are all about STATISTICS. He does a great job on his blog analyzing polls and making predictions. But, but...DAILY KOS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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