Nanker Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Will Smith backs European type socialism and doesn't mind paying for it. Well, he almost doesn't - till he finds out how much it'll cost him.
Chef Jim Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Will Smith backs European type socialism and doesn't mind paying for it. Well, he almost doesn't - till he finds out how much it'll cost him. Yeah and the European system is in great shape right now. Wonderful system to emulate there Willy. Oh and who wouldn't want to emulate a system that has the French Riviera that the rich people like him visit in grand style. Edited May 18, 2012 by Chef Jim
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Totally agreed! There is no doubt that it was way better to live in Russia when they were the USSR and that living standards in China have only decreased since the so-called Communist gov't decided to introduce some capitalistic reforms -- those sellouts. You're totally right about the slave labor and extortion, too. People in Singapore, Korea, Brazil, India, China ... you name it! They'd all be better off without us as a trading partner. (Edit: I did read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" already. Thanks for the suggestion, though! I'm convinced that John Perkins is NOT a megalomaniac like other people said and that his book is a completely factual account of his time as a 'consultant' (yeah right -- more like a Weapon of Mass Consultancy -- I'd bet anything that Bain Capital had something to do with what was described as happening in Panama.) no, lol. just because capitalism is not implemented does not mean living standards will increase. i simply said, our form, has directly enslaved other people along with extorting other nations. yes, other forms of political economy have done the same thing. you see, retards like you dont understand there is really no difference between absolute state power or absolute corporate power, micro or macro, (ie corporatism) or a corporate state. within leninism, workers would piss on themselves because they cant take a bathroom break, or if they tried to unionize, they get thrown in prison for 10 years. and now in china, our corporations have taken over part of their state, ie globalization.(capitalist reforms to put it lightly). and guess what, people are still pissing on themselves and if they unionize, they get thrown in prison for 10 years. whats ironic, capitalism that is totally laissez fair has never been tried. ie no protection of or intervention from the state on any level. this means complete economic anarchy. i dont know if capital could exist without state power and protection through police, irs, tax law, copyright law, military, etc. this is not a free market. its also not a free market if you dont allow unions to respond. its hypocritical. because you are not allowing free association for other people.
DC Tom Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 i dont know if capital could exist without state power and protection through police, irs, tax law, copyright law, military, etc. this is not a free market. its also not a free market if you dont allow unions to respond. its hypocritical. because you are not allowing free association for other people. Typical Anglocentric bull ****. It existed for centuries before police, IRS, tax law, etc...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Typical Anglocentric bull ****. It existed for centuries before police, IRS, tax law, etc... there has never been a laise faire free market.
jjamie12 Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 there has never been a laise faire free market. The sun rises in the east.
/dev/null Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 there has never been a laise faire free market. So what's the deal with General Franco? Is he still dead?
Jim in Anchorage Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 no, lol. just because capitalism is not implemented does not mean living standards will increase. i simply said, our form, has directly enslaved other people along with extorting other nations. yes, other forms of political economy have done the same thing. you see, retards like you dont understand there is really no difference between absolute state power or absolute corporate power, micro or macro, (ie corporatism) or a corporate state. within leninism, workers would piss on themselves because they cant take a bathroom break, or if they tried to unionize, they get thrown in prison for 10 years. and now in china, our corporations have taken over part of their state, ie globalization.(capitalist reforms to put it lightly). and guess what, people are still pissing on themselves and if they unionize, they get thrown in prison for 10 years. whats ironic, capitalism that is totally laissez fair has never been tried. ie no protection of or intervention from the state on any level. this means complete economic anarchy. i dont know if capital could exist without state power and protection through police, irs, tax law, copyright law, military, etc. this is not a free market. its also not a free market if you dont allow unions to respond. its hypocritical. because you are not allowing free association for other people. You do understand you are a complete ass?
John Adams Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 You do understand you are a complete ass? You don't understand that's a hook down your throat every time you talk to him?
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 The sun rises in the east. not an argument... You do understand you are a complete ass? no argument... :blink: :blink:
meazza Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 not an argument... no argument... :blink: :blink: As if you've presented an argument
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 As if you've presented an argument not an argument. .. please respond to what i said... otherwise...
meazza Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 not an argument. .. please respond to what i said... otherwise... Ok fine. You're an idiot ™
Jauronimo Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 i dont know if capital could exist without state power and protection through police, irs, tax law, copyright law, military, etc. this is not a free market. its also not a free market if you dont allow unions to respond. its hypocritical. because you are not allowing free association for other people. Thats the spirit. Get rid of all these BS concepts like ownership, property laws, protection and let the innovation flourish!
Barack Obama Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 Thats the spirit. Get rid of all these BS concepts like ownership, property laws, protection and let the innovation flourish! Forward!
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Thats the spirit. Get rid of all these BS concepts like ownership, property laws, protection and let the innovation flourish! somehow, and this is just a gut feeling , i dont think you understand what private property is and what justifies it. you need to read john locke again. :wallbash:
Jim in Anchorage Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 You don't understand that's a hook down your throat every time you talk to him? Calling him a ass is about as far as I care to go.
jjamie12 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 not an argument... no argument... :blink: :blink: Oh, we're having an argument? I thought we were just trying to find out who could win in a "Thanks for that, Captain Obvious" competition.
Jauronimo Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Oh, we're having an argument? I thought we were just trying to find out who could win in a "Thanks for that, Captain Obvious" competition. Sorry, this is abuse. Argument is room 12A down the hall.
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