3rdnlng Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 "I'm smart, not like everybody says...like dumb...I'm smart and I want respect!" You aren't going to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Still loving this thread, davey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Why Lugar Lost : He had lost touch with the grassroots. By Brian Bolduc FTA: And a combination of a poorly run campaign, a credible opponent, and a small, energized electorate sealed his fate. Brian Bolduc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 dude, are you ok man. seriously, you insult people left and right... That wasn't an insult, it was an observation. DiN is seriously deranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 It's too bad, really...the moderates on both sides are being replaced by the extremists. The only candidate I can think of currently running in any election that has any pretense of centrism is...Romney? The moderates on both sides are ignoring the moving light at the end of the tunnel. None of the old school wish to address what needs to be done about our debts and deficits. None of them. Not a a one. In fact, the only plan out there (Ryan's plan, for better or worse) is simply a tool used by one side to scare the crap out of old people while ignoring the financial burdens being put on young people. Old blood ain't cutting it. New blood is becoming our only hope. Unless you somehow believe that we really are on financially sound footing and all the worries about debt and deficit are just numbers being fudged for political gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Reminds me of a line by Obama when he picked Biden for VP, that Biden had been bringign Change© to DC since the 1970s. Nobody should be in the Senate for 36 years. I don't care if the guy is a Republican, Democrat, Tea Partier, or Obammunist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Yeah, saying that Obama isn't a moderate and represents the far left of the Democratic party means I think he was born in Kenya. How does your brain even form the intent to use a computer? tom , he passed a health care bill created by the heritage foundation. its a corporate takeover for health care... he kept all major bush foreign policy doctrine except torture, as far as we know.... he kept the bush tax cuts he has offered 3-1 in cuts to revenue to reduce the debt he singed more neoliberal policies with asia on trade , a classic right wing ideology... he has increased the predator drone program, especially in yemen. he has put severe sanctions on iran and has clearly stated iran cannot have a wmd... liberally- i think he let gays in the military, outside of that, the guy is a center right president... That wasn't an insult, it was an observation. DiN is seriously deranged. but tom, respectfully, you will never change minds by ridiculing them... Edited May 9, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 tom , he passed a health care bill created by the heritage foundation. its a corporate bill for health care he kept all major bush foreign policy doctrine except torture, as far as we know.... he kept the bush tax cuts he has offered 3-1 in cuts to revenue to reduce the debt he singed more neoliberal policies with asia on trade , a classic right wing ideology... he has increased the predator drone program, especially in yemen. he has put severe sanctions on iran and has clearly stated iran cannot have a wmd... liberally- i think he let gays in the military, outside of that, the guy is a center right persident... "Neoliberalism" is right-wing, so he's center-right? Or it's "increasing the predator drone program" that makes him right-wing? But it's good to know that HE passed the health care abortion himself, as presented to him by a conservative foundation acting on behalf of the fascists - er, corporations. You're too retarded to even be a good troll. but tom, respectfully, you will never change minds by ridiculing them... I'm not going to change your mind either way. May as well ridicule you. And anyway, "changing your mind" implies you have one to change. That's extremely debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) "Neoliberalism" is right-wing, so he's center-right? Or it's "increasing the predator drone program" that makes him right-wing? But it's good to know that HE passed the health care abortion himself, as presented to him by a conservative foundation acting on behalf of the fascists - er, corporations. You're too retarded to even be a good troll. I'm not going to change your mind either way. May as well ridicule you. And anyway, "changing your mind" implies you have one to change. That's extremely debatable. yes, obama is center right. he embraces neoliberal trade policy, and passed a heatlh care bill written by a right wing think tank... the reason i said center-right is because he is pro life and let gays in the military. in general terms, are far as american politics, hes about as center as you get... please state your evidence and show a few examples of where obama has been far far left. what lenin like policies has obama implemented? Edited May 9, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 yes, obama is center right. he embraces neoliberal trade policy, and passed a heatlh care bill written by a right wing think tank... the reason i said center-right is because he is pro life and let gays in the military. in general terms, are far as american politics, hes about as center as you get... please state your evidence and show a few examples of where obama has been far far left. what lenin like policies has obama implemented? Commie health care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Chris Shays.... Another crazy right winger replaced by a moderate Democrat! -DaveinRetardville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 yes, obama is center right. he embraces neoliberal trade policy, and passed a heatlh care bill written by a right wing think tank... the reason i said center-right is because he is pro life and let gays in the military. in general terms, are far as american politics, hes about as center as you get... please state your evidence and show a few examples of where obama has been far far left. what lenin like policies has obama implemented? It's amazing to me how far liberals will go to avoid admitting they elected a guy POTUS who has no business being POTUS. I suspect your argument that the problem is that Obama is center right because of his position on gays is the equivalent of throwing the gun at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 It's amazing to me how far liberals will go to avoid admitting they elected a guy POTUS who has no business being POTUS. I suspect your argument that the problem is that Obama is center right because of his position on gays is the equivalent of throwing the gun at this point. At this point, it's more like throwing the box the gun was kept in. yes, obama is center right. he embraces neoliberal trade policy, and passed a heatlh care bill written by a right wing think tank... the reason i said center-right is because he is pro life and let gays in the military. in general terms, are far as american politics, hes about as center as you get... Obama passed a right-wing health care bill, with the right-wing acting obstructionist. Think about how utterly retarded your statement is. please state your evidence and show a few examples of where obama has been far far left. what lenin like policies has obama implemented? Ah, so "far left" is Lenin, and everything else is "center-right". Yeah, if that's your context, then maybe you have a point. But if that's a context...once again, idiot. And let's not ignore nationalizing GM and expropriating private property without due process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) At this point, it's more like throwing the box the gun was kept in. Obama passed a right-wing health care bill, with the right-wing acting obstructionist. Think about how utterly retarded your statement is. Ah, so "far left" is Lenin, and everything else is "center-right". Yeah, if that's your context, then maybe you have a point. But if that's a context...once again, idiot. And let's not ignore nationalizing GM and expropriating private property without due process. you dont think the right can have cognitive dissonance? they came up with the damn bill( self relaince, personal responsibility), and then only rejected it, because obama decided it was politically possible. remember 92 and hillary? playing politics is not always ideological. generally speaking, the moderate right has said you should go to a charity hospital, and if you cant do that, just go to the emergency room. in other words you should not have to pay for health care.( free rider)- a hyperbolic term to describe the left is now what the mainstream right wants... some fringe groups on the right have actually said hospitals should be able to turn people away if they cant pay. you were the one tom that said barry was an extremist. i would consider lenin in that category. so whats you example? Edited May 9, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatbillsfan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 At this point, it's more like throwing the box the gun was kept in. Obama passed a right-wing health care bill, with the right-wing acting obstructionist. Think about how utterly retarded your statement is. Ah, so "far left" is Lenin, and everything else is "center-right". Yeah, if that's your context, then maybe you have a point. But if that's a context...once again, idiot. And let's not ignore nationalizing GM and expropriating private property without due process. Way to answer in a manner that is non-responsive to the question. you dont think the right can have cognitive dissoncance? Try to keep it in terms he can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Way to answer in a manner that is non-responsive to the question. Try to keep it in terms he can understand. Always a riot when the window-licker brigade gangs up on me. Don't forget to invite the Norfolk chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Try to keep it in terms he can understand. You mean like using actual words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 you dont think the right can have cognitive dissonance? they came up with the damn bill( self relaince, personal responsibility), and then only rejected it, because obama decided it was politically possible. remember 92 and hillary? playing politics is not always ideological. generally speaking, the moderate right has said you should go to a charity hospital, and if you cant do that, just go to the emergency room. in other words you should not have to pay for health care.( free rider)- a hyperbolic term to describe the left is now what the mainstream right wants... some fringe groups on the right have actually said hospitals should be able to turn people away if they cant pay. you were the one tom that said barry was an extremist. i would consider lenin in that category. so whats you example? Ahh....so it's not your poor perception of reality that's the trouble here...it's that the right is doing things they don't believe in, and then stressing about it? Here's the thing: the right, correctly, wants to get rid of Obama because first and foremost he is an incompetent. That's what they believe and that's what they do. The only stress they have about is what happens if they FAIL. The notion that Obama is anything other than a leftist, not a totalitarian socialist, but certainly a European socialist, is absurd. The only reason he even has a military capable of drone strikes is due to decisions made long ago by better presidents. Where's the spending he is responsible for today....that is going to provide the next irreplaceable high tech weapons system we will use 20 years from now? There won't be one, because of Obama's defense budget cuts today. Instead of spending on things that are useful to this country....Obama spend our money on leftist crack, like Solyndra. Just like crack, Solyndra makes you feel great when you start, but, after a while it fades, and you need more money, you have to have more money, to keep it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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