eball Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Joe tweeted that Fred's agent responded to a question about progress on a new deal with "check back with me in a couple of days." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Joe tweeted that Fred's agent responded to a question about progress on a new deal with "check back with me in a couple of days." Or it means this is the first time that the two sides are actually exchanging proposals and LaBoy will know if they are reasonably close or miles away. It's good to know they started talking though, and it's what Nix promised to do, after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 maybe part of the logic in releasing Drayton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Also last week they were informed what their rookie allotment is so the price certainty for their payroll has increased marginally between the allotment and knowing how many draft picks they have to sign (9 instead of 10). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Also last week they were informed what their rookie allotment is so the price certainty for their payroll has increased marginally between the allotment and knowing how many draft picks they have to sign (9 instead of 10). So that's why Nix traded up and gave up a draft pick....So we could give give Fred a raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 So that's why Nix traded up and gave up a draft pick....So we could give give Fred a raise. Ha. Not much of a raise. That 7th pick would be signed for $390,000 or so. 7th rounders make about 1.3 mil for three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 So that's why Nix traded up and gave up a draft pick....So we could give give Fred a raise. Yep. That was exactly my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yep. That was exactly my point. No way all 10 picks would have made the final roster. It wouldn't have mattered one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) Or it means this is the first time that the two sides are actually exchanging proposals and LaBoy will know if they are reasonably close or miles away. It's good to know they started talking though, and it's what Nix promised to do, after the draft. This is great news- for better or worse something will happen soon. If Fred and Buddy can't agree on a "fair" extension, I think we'll see Fred be dealt before training camp rather than be kept as a disgruntled back who will walk at the end of the year for nothing. That said, my gut tells me they'll work it out. I don't think Fred's agent would comment at all if he thought they won't be able to reach an agreement that keeps Fred here. PS Not to nitpick, but LaBoy is Stevie's agent. Ron Raccuia is Fred's. Buscaglia's story Edited May 6, 2012 by uncle flap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 This is great news- for better or worse something will happen soon. If Fred and Buddy can't agree on a "fair" extension, I think we'll see Fred be dealt before training camp rather than be kept as a disgruntled back who will walk at the end of the year for nothing. That said, my gut tells me they'll work it out. I don't think Fred's agent would comment at all if he thought they won't be able to reach an agreement that keeps Fred here. PS Not to nitpick, but LaBoy is Stevie's agent. Ron Raccuia is Fred's. Buscaglia's story Oh right. My bad. Thanks. yeah, I think they will work it out, too. Unfortunately, Fred is one of the hardest players in the league, especially at this point in his career, to put a dollar value on. I think they need to somewhat overpay him, but that overpaying is still in the 3 year 15 mil total range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Signing Fred to an extension would be the cap to the best Bills offseason in many years. I can friggin' wait til September 9th when we smack the Jets around! 4 more months!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Oh right. My bad. Thanks. yeah, I think they will work it out, too. Unfortunately, Fred is one of the hardest players in the league, especially at this point in his career, to put a dollar value on. I think they need to somewhat overpay him, but that overpaying is still in the 3 year 15 mil total range. What does CJ make (avg per season)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) What does CJ make (avg per season)? 5 years 25m Edited May 6, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Ha. Not much of a raise. That 7th pick would be signed for $390,000 or so. 7th rounders make about 1.3 mil for three years. 390k a year is not much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 5 years 25m Thanks. So paying Fred 15M over 3 sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 5 years 25m 20.5 mil was guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Oh right. My bad. Thanks. yeah, I think they will work it out, too. Unfortunately, Fred is one of the hardest players in the league, especially at this point in his career, to put a dollar value on. I think they need to somewhat overpay him, but that overpaying is still in the 3 year 15 mil total range. I think that would be fair, but I don't know if that would qualify as outright "overpaying." I hope that Fred is reasonable and accepts a deal in that range, but if he is looking to be rewarded for past performance on the cheap that may not be enough. I don't think he would get much more if he was on the open market though, so it's tough to say. What does CJ make (avg per season)? His base salary this year is $852,917 but his average is $5 million over course of the contract. NFL Salaries You can also see all NFL RB average and base salaries to try to figure what the rate for Fred might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 390k a year is not much? Not as a raise for Fred Jackson, no, which is what we were talking about. And certainly not in the scheme of things for an NFL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Not as a raise for Fred Jackson, no, which is what we were talking about. And certainly not in the scheme of things for an NFL player. You hit the nail on the head. Based on Freddie's salary last year, he should expect an increase in the $3 million dollar range annually. That is definitely more than what the 7th rounder would have seen in a 3 year deal, never mind annually. That being said, $390K is still a bucketload of money to most anyone that is not a pro athlete. I really, really want to see Freddie retire as a Bill. Watching him go elsewhere to finish his career would be a travesty. Maybe not a "Thurman to the Dolphins" moment, but a travesty regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Ha. Not much of a raise. That 7th pick would be signed for $390,000 or so. 7th rounders make about 1.3 mil for three years. Actually that 7th rounder making the team vs a vet taking the same roster spot could have saved us some cash. For a player of Fred's age, guaranteed money is the only thing that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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