ChanOverChin Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Meathead, I've got to say that your pic makes me a little naseous. Your proposed 53 man roster is pretty darn good. We should plan to update it and discuss as the preseason moves along. There's no way that the Bills will keep four TEs. Dickerson is looking like a good prospect at this point, but he's still no shoe-in. I would take Carrington over Caussin and I think Moats is too good to cut so maybe he makes it over Potter, who could be kept as a PS player and added to the 53 man roster later in the season. I do have major concerns about McGee's health now and ability to stay healthy for the entire season. Someone is likely to replace him at some point. maybe the Bills will consider CB N. Clements at some point?? Remember that the Bills will almost always have four DLs on the field on defense so it makes sense to take a few more DLs than they might have last year. This is where they have a lot of talented players as well. Moats and Scott are both versatile players, which makes them very valuable. Moats is a LB who can play ST, but who can also rush the passer from the DE position in obvious passing situations. Scott is a SS by trade, but can be used as a cover LB in obvious passing situations to cover oppsoing TEs. One thing that stands out is that this roster is much deeper than last year's roster. That should prove to be invaluable once the injury bug strikes. I think the roster below represents our best 53 man roster at this point, which will likely change as the preseason moves along. So at this point, I would revise the 53 man roster as follows: QB (3): Fitz, Young, B. Smith RB (4): Jackson, Spiller, Choice, McIntyre WR (6): Stevie, Nelson, Jones, Graham, Easley, Hagan (B. Smith) TE (3): Chandler, L. Smith, Dickerson OL (8): Glenn, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Pears, Hairston, Rinehart, Sanders Offense: 24 DE (5): Mario, Anderson, Merriman, Kelsay, Moats DT (6): Williams, Dareus, Edwards, Sp. Johnson, Troup, Carrington LB (5): Barnett, Sheppard, Morrison, Bradham, Carder (Moats & Scott) S (4): Wilson, Byrd, Scott, Searcy CB (6): Williams, Gilmore, McKelvin, McGee, Rogers, Brooks Defense: 26 K: Lindell P: Moorman LS: Sanborn Special Teams: 3 Total: 53
Tsaikotic Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) QB(2) - Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen/Vince Young, (Brad Smith) RB(3) - Fred Jackson, C.J. Spiller, Tashard Choice FB(1) - Corey McIntyre, (Dorin Dickerson) OWR(4) - Stevie Johnson, Marcus Easley, T.J. Graham, Derek Hagan SWR(2) - David Nelson, Brad Smith TE(2) - Scott Chandler, Dorin Dickerson LOT(2) - Cordy Glenn, Chris Hairston, (Andy Levitre) LG(2) - Andy Levitre, Mark Asper, (Chad Rhinehart) C(1) - Eric Wood, (Kraig Urbik), (Mark Asper) RG(2) - Kraig Urbik, Chad Rhinehart. (Mark Asper) RT(2) - Eric Pears, Zebrie Sanders, (Chris Hairston) (23) LDE(2) - Mario Williams, Chris Kelsay, (Spencer Johnson) LDT(2) - Marcell Dareus, Alex Carrington RDT(2) - Kyle Williams, Kellen Heard RDE(3) - Mark Anderson, Shawne Merriman, Spencer Johnson OLB(4) - Nick Barnett, Nigel Bradham, Bryan Scott, Arthur Moats ILB(3) - Kelvin Sheppard, Scott McKillop, Tank Carder SS(2) - George Wilson, Da' Norris Searcy FS(2) - Jairus Byrd, Josh Nesbitt, (George Wilson) LCB(2) - Aaron Williams, Terrence McGee, Ron Brooks RCB(2) - Stephon Gilmore, Leodis McKelvin, Justin Rogers (26) K - Rian Lindell K - John Potter P - Brian Moorman LS - Garrison Sanborn (4) thus is my first try at the 53...bit hesitant on Nessbit now that you guys reminded me that Scott can slip to S...as with others I don't see 4 TE's ...from what I've read, the coaching staff really likes McKillop behind Sheppard...I liked Asper over Collins for the extra OLmen...I scratched out Jones to keep Hagan and add the kickoff specialist, but could getrid of Nesbitt to keep Jones tho I like how this year seems to be a lot harder then last year to figure out who they keep...the last few seasons they've been really inept of talent... Edited June 8, 2012 by Tsaikotic
Maybe Someday Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 No way Carrington doesn't make the team. And its 54 man active roster now I thought. With a third QB. It’s still only 53. The rule that changed now allows teams to carry a 3rd QB on the active, game day roster. So teams get 1 additional active player on game day, not an extra roster spot. The 3rd QB used to be able to dress but was still considered inactive and if he played, the other 2 QBs weren’t allowed to go back into the game. You don’t have to have a QB take that extra spot either. Tricky Dick used to have Roscoe fill it and only had 2 QBs dress. One of the few moves by Dick that I actually liked.
ChanOverChin Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 OFFENSE: 24 QB: Fitzparick/Young/B. Smith RB: Jackson/Spiller/Choice FB: McIntyre TE: Chandler/L. Smith/Dickerson WR: St. Johnson/Nelson/Easley/Hagan/Graham/D. Jones (B. Smith) OL: Glenn/Levitre/Wood/Urbik/Pears/Hairston/Rheinhart/Sanders SPECIAL TEAMS: 3 K: Lindell P: Lindell LS: Sanborn DEFENSE: 26 DE: Ma. Williams/Anderson/Merriman/Kelsay/Moats DT: K. Williams/Dareus/Edwards/Sp. Johnson/Troup/Carrington OLB: Barnett/Morrison/Bradham/Carder (Moats/Scott) MLB: Sheppard (Barnett) CB: Gilmore/A. Williams/T. McGee/McKelvin/Brooks/Rogers SS: Wilson/Scott FS: Byrd/Searcy This is the deepest roster we have had in a long time. We could still use a few veteran players to fill a few holes. For instance, if the Bills were to pick up a veteran WR then they could improve their depth and maybe eliminate two of the six players listed above, which would free up another roster spot. Dickerson is not a shoe-in either. If he doesn't prove worthy the Bills may only keep two TEs. Where the Bills could really use a veteran addition (besides WR) is at LB. There are certainly FAs out there who are better than what we have on the roster now. Guys like Farrior/McIntosh/Henderson. McGee's health is a real problem. He's still not 100%. Even if he gets to 100%, will he last the enitre season?? History says no. It might be wise to bring in another CB just in case.
Herb62 Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 OK here is my attempt at it.. Original Post pretty darn good I think, but I see some differences that I gotta fix. Time will tell, gotta make this 53 guys i guess: QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith RB (3): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Johnny White or Tashard Choice FB (1): Corey McIntyre WR (6): Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Donald Jones, TJ Graham, Derek Hagan, Marcus Easley TE (2): Scott Chandler, Mike Caussin or Fendi Onobun OT (4): Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders OG (4): Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Mark Asper or Michael Jasper OC (1): Eric Wood -- DE (4): Mario Williams, Shawne Merriman, Mark Anderson, Chris Kelsay DT (5): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Dwan Edwards, Torrell Troup, Alex Carrington (basically doubles as 5th DT and 5th DE) OLB (4): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham, Tank Carder ILB (2): Kelvin Sheppard, Chris White CB (7): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Terrence McGee, Drayton Florence, Leodis McKelvin, Ron Brooks, Justin Rogers, S (4): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy, Bryan Scott -- ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn ---------------------- Ok This keeps our best 53, we have the money. Why not just keep our best 53? Drayton Florence is already gone
jwhit34 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Gotta start somewhere, here's my prediction: OFFENSE (25) QB - Fitz, Young, B. Smith RB - Jackson, Spiller, Choice FB/HB - McIntyre, Dickerson WR - Johnson, Nelson, Jones, Graham, Easley, Hagan TE - Chandler, Smith OL - Glenn, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Pears, Hairston, Sanders, Rhinehart, Jasper DEFENSE (25) DL - M. Williams, K. Williams, Anderson, Dareus, Kelsay, Merriman, Troup, Heard, Carrington LB - Sheppard, Barnett, Morrison, Carder, Bradham, Scott CB - Gilmore, A. Williams, McGee, McKelvin, Rogers, Brooks S - Wilson, Byrd, Searcy SPECIAL TEAMS (3) Snapper - Sanborn K - Lindell P - Moorman Last cuts: Dwan Edwards, Spencer Johnson, Ruvell Martin (special teams ability) Have making team but wouldn't be shocked if cut: McKelvin, Carrington, Choice PRACTICE SQUAD: Potter (K), Asper, Nesbitt, Saenz, 3 others Surprises and Rationale: 1. Only 3 safeties, Bryan Scott is #4 and is a swing LB/S 2. Would like to add Potter as kickoff specialist but ran out of spots 3. With Nickerson making team they go with only 2 TEs 4. Jasper may be the biggest surprise 5. A lot of the rookies will make roster because guys like Carder and Branham will not make it through to practice squad 6. The thing that struck me is that there probably are 10 or fewer roster spots up for grabs. Some between 1-43 may be unsettled as to pecking order but the players in those spots are pretty solid. Have at it...
CDogg20 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I like it and I can't wait for this season, the only thing I would switch is Sanborn or Jasper for Asper. Correct me if i'm wrong but didnt Asper long snap in college?
swnybillsfan Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 whatever the final 53 looks like i think most of the billievers will be happy. it looks like we are going to bring some heat and give some pain from the front seven. the secondary consists of some very promising youngsters with some great veteran guideance. and our offense, while possibly bereft of that "true number two wide reciever", looks like it should be fine with a hungry and healthy freddy jackson and cj spiller combo, along with waves of wide recievers that may not be prototypical but should all have a little something to bring to the table. oh yeah, and i beilieve that a deeper talent pool with more depth on the offensive line won't hurt us too much either. now that i've made the short story long, i think that when the smoke clears from all the training camp/preseason battles, we will have one hell of a team. new england, look the #@$% out!
T master Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Your D is better than your O Mcintyre has done nothing i think he is gone in favor of Dickerson as an HB / FB type Asper will be there but as a C / OL , Tashard Choice won't be the choice as a RB we can use the spot for another player !! I also think Dwan Edwards is gone in favor of a younger player like Carrington he has more years in him for less money !! One thing for sure we don't have any shortage of good / talented players !! I just hope we keep the right ones for this team - chemistry is half the battle !!!
Shoutbox Posted July 8, 2012 Posted July 8, 2012 Solid prediction. My only complaints: 1. You list 24 defensive players, not 25, so you have an extra roster spot. I'd use that spot to add Potter the KO specialist. 2. Colin Brown is a quality backup center. Given Wood's health history, Urbik's steady work at RG, and Levitre's past adventures at center, I'd keep him and instead move Jasper to practice squad for 1 more year of seasoning. 3. Spencer Johnson is the perfect backup 4-3 DL. Steady vet and good locker room guy who can play all 4 positions. Keep him and cut Heard (assuming Troup and Carrington step up their game this preseason). Gotta start somewhere, here's my prediction: OFFENSE (25) QB - Fitz, Young, B. Smith RB - Jackson, Spiller, Choice FB/HB - McIntyre, Dickerson WR - Johnson, Nelson, Jones, Graham, Easley, Hagan TE - Chandler, Smith OL - Glenn, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Pears, Hairston, Sanders, Rhinehart, Jasper DEFENSE (25) DL - M. Williams, K. Williams, Anderson, Dareus, Kelsay, Merriman, Troup, Heard, Carrington LB - Sheppard, Barnett, Morrison, Carder, Bradham, Scott CB - Gilmore, A. Williams, McGee, McKelvin, Rogers, Brooks S - Wilson, Byrd, Searcy SPECIAL TEAMS (3) Snapper - Sanborn K - Lindell P - Moorman Last cuts: Dwan Edwards, Spencer Johnson, Ruvell Martin (special teams ability) Have making team but wouldn't be shocked if cut: McKelvin, Carrington, Choice PRACTICE SQUAD: Potter (K), Asper, Nesbitt, Saenz, 3 others Surprises and Rationale: 1. Only 3 safeties, Bryan Scott is #4 and is a swing LB/S 2. Would like to add Potter as kickoff specialist but ran out of spots 3. With Nickerson making team they go with only 2 TEs 4. Jasper may be the biggest surprise 5. A lot of the rookies will make roster because guys like Carder and Branham will not make it through to practice squad 6. The thing that struck me is that there probably are 10 or fewer roster spots up for grabs. Some between 1-43 may be unsettled as to pecking order but the players in those spots are pretty solid. Have at it...
Owen Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 Here is what I believe the 53 man roster will look like... 3... QBs.. Fitz, Young and Smith 3... RBs.. Jackson, Spiller & White 1... FB .. McIntre 3... TEs.. Chandler, Smith, Dickerson 8... OL... Glenn, LaVitre, Wood, Urbik, Peers, Hairston, Reinhart, Brown 6... WRs.. Johnson, Jones, Easley, Hagan, Graham, Nelson ---------- 24 Offensive Players 9... DL.. M.Williams, Dareus, K.Williams, Anderson, Kelsey, Troup, Johnson, Merriman, Heard 6... LB.. Barnett, Shepard, Morrison, Moats, Carder, Bradham 6... CBs. A. Williams, Gilmore, Mc Gee, Brooks, Rodgers, McKelvin 3... SS.. Wilson, Searcy, Scott (will also play olb) 1....FS.. Byrd ------------------- 25 Defensive Players 4 Special Teams PK..Lyndell and Potter PK..Moorman or Powell .... it is a toss up right now between the two.. S...Sanborn As you can see there are some serious cuts......
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 QB (3): Fitz, Young, Smith RB (4): Jackson, Spiller, Choice, McIntyre WR (6): Stevie, Nelson, Jones, Graham, Easley, Hagan TE (4): Chandler, Smith, Caussin, Dickerson OL (8): Hairston, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Pears, Glenn, Rinehart, Sanders Offense: 25 DE (5): Mario, Kelsay, Anderson, Merriman, S.Johnson DT (4): Williams, Dareus, Edwards, Troup LB (6): Barnett, Sheppard, Morrison, Scott, Bradham, Carder S (3): Wilson, Byrd, Searcy CB (6): Williams, Gilmore, McKelvin, McGee, Rogers, Brooks Defense: 24 K: Lindell, Potter P: Moorman LS: Sanborn Total: 53 A lot of thought went into that roster. And it looks pretty damn good IMO. There are tweaks: If Troup looks at all questionable, I think he may roll onto PUP and they may keep a 7th LB with good ST skills (McKillop if healthy or White). There may also be a 7th DB they want to keep on the roster. When I read that roster and compare it to what we were keeping just 2 years ago, I just feel so much better about being a fan of the Bills.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 Meathead, I've got to say that your pic makes me a little naseous. I don't know what it says, while that pic is pretty squick making, it isn't even the most squick-making avatar I've seen on the board. There's no way that the Bills will keep four TEs. Dickerson is looking like a good prospect at this point, but he's still no shoe-in. I would take Carrington over Caussin and I think Moats is too good to cut so maybe he makes it over Potter, who could be kept as a PS player and added to the 53 man roster later in the season. Moats and Scott are both versatile players, which makes them very valuable. Moats is a LB who can play ST, but who can also rush the passer from the DE position in obvious passing situations. Scott is a SS by trade, but can be used as a cover LB in obvious passing situations to cover oppsoing TEs. It's a good point and they may well keep an extra LB and only 3 TE. DE (5): Mario, Anderson, Merriman, Kelsay, Moats DT (6): Williams, Dareus, Edwards, Sp. Johnson, Troup, Carrington LB (5): Barnett, Sheppard, Morrison, Bradham, Carder (Moats & Scott) 1) No team of which I'm aware keeps 11 DL and only 5 LB. 2) Moats is lining up, taking reps, and learning the LB position. He's not a DE. Period. If he stays, it will be as a LB. That might happen, although, when I've seen him in coverage to date it has NOT been a pretty sight. 3) It's a recipe for failure to ask a young player to learn too many positions (DE + LB) 4) It's going to be a battle for the 4th DT spot. Johnson may have the edge, due to being able to play both DE and DT. But I don't think we'll be seeing Edwards, Johnson, Troup, and Carrington on the team. Pick 2, 3 at the most.
Justice Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) 2012 Buffalo Bills My projected 53 man roster QB(3) This area of the team is a no-brainer, IMO. Fitz is the man, no doubt about that, and I believe he will have his best season ever. The #2 spot isn't as cut and dried. Vince Young is a cheaper alternative than Thigpen and he is a proven winner in the NFL, therefore I gotta go with VY. Grade: B- Fitzpatrick Young Smith RB(4) The Bills sport, at the very least, a top 3 running back tandem in the entire league. Freddie is healthy and ready to light up the NFL again. Spiller is in his third season and poised for a breakout year. The only battle here is between last years' draft choice Johnny White vs Tashard Choice. I went with Choice because he has started games in the NFL which would be invaluable to the Bills if something were to happen to Spiller or Fredex. Grade: A+ Jackson Spiller Choice McIntyre WR(6) I believe a lot of people will be surprised with how well this unit plays this year. Stevie and Donald are the starters, but you will see plenty of Nelson, who like Spiller, is in his third year which is usually the season WRs finally come into their own. I think this trio can combine for over 3000 yards. Hagan provides some veteran leadership, Graham supplies the speed, and Easley-well who the hell knows, but he has shown some flashes in the very little time we have seen him. He needs to clean up the drops and stay healthy. Grade: B- Johnson Jones Nelson Graham Easley Hagan TE(3) Chandler proved his worth to the Bills last year and should only get better. He's a huge target and a good outlet for Fitzy if things breakdown. Smith is a decent blocker and Dickerson is the wild card. Has the light bulb finally turned on for DD? As long as his blocking is just adequate than he will have some chances to prove he deserves a chance to put his athleticism on display. Grade: C+ Chandler Smith Dickerson OL(11) If Cordy or Hairston can man the LT position adequately than the Bills can have a top 5 unit here. I love all the other starters. Levitre is the most underrated LG in the NFL. Wood was on his way to the All-Pro team before the injury. Both Urbik and Pears are solid to above average. We have decent depth here, with Rhinehart, and the loser of the LT battle (most likely Hairston). Urbik can play center if anything goes wrong with Wood. Grade: A- Glenn Levitre Wood Urbik Pears Hairston Young Rhinehart Sanders Sanborn Brown DL(9) This is started to sound redundant, but the Bills have a top three unit in the league here, as well. We Bills fans are downright giddy at the thought of this unit playing together. Mario will demand double teams and free up at least one or two other guys to single match ups which will pose a huge problem to opposing defenses. Offenses will have to chip block our DEs using the RBs and tight ends will have to stay back and block more than they'd like to against us. Dareus and Kyle make up the best DT combo in the league and Anderson's speed rush is just the thing we need on a line full of power and speed. Our second wave/replacement d-line is led by Kelsay and Merriman at the ends and Dwan and Spencer Johnson at DT. The Bills have some flexibility here as Carrington, Dwan and Sp Johnson can play DE as well as tackle. Grade: A+ Williams Anderson Kelsay Merrimen Dareus K. Williams Edwards Sp. Johnson Carrington LB(7) This is our weakest unit on the defense, but that's not meant to be a knock against our boys at linebacker, we're just so stacked with talent on the DL and secondary. Barnett is the best of the bunch. He can cover, and play the run. Our coaching staff has a lot of faith in Sheppard, so he must be at least adequate. Morrison has been around for a while now in the NFL so he provides the D with some veteran leadership, but I believe Moats will steal his starting job shortly after the start of the season. Our other linebackers will play a significant role on special teams. Scott will be the nickel backer. Grade: C+ Barnett Sheppard Morrison Carder Moats Bradham Scott DB(8) I have some concerns with this unit, but at the same time they can be special. Aaron Williams needs to get better. I don't agree with the majority of the board when it comes to AW. I thought he sucked last year, but he was a rookie and that's to be expected, EXCEPT when it comes to Gilmore. Stephon is ready to make a difference on this D as of now. The kid can play. he will get tested early and often, my bet is teams will start avoiding him well before mid-season. McKelvin is the X factor here. Call me hard headed but I still have faith in him, if he can just learn to play the ball while it's in the air. Rogers and Brooks have some promise. I love our safety tandem of Wilson and Byrd. Especially Byrd! Like he may play his way out of Buffalo, this year, that good!! I don't know if we'll be able to fit him under our cap next season. Our secondary will benefit greatly from our improved pass rush. Grade: B- Williams Gilmore Byrd Wilson Brooks McKelvin Rogers Searcy K/P(2) Both solid players that will beat out the competition in training camp for at least another year. Grade: A- Lindell Moorman Edited August 6, 2012 by NoJustice
PromoTheRobot Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 Leonhard signed with Denver. Otherwise I would agree. PTR
Justice Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 There goes that prediction. Brown makes the team at center then.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 There goes that prediction. Brown makes the team at center then. They won't keep 11 OL and they will keep 9 DB. They'll either keep one of the rookie DB or still pick up a safety. Nice job overall though
metzelaars_lives Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) OK, here it goes... For one, there no way our secondary is just barely better than our linebackers. I would put our Safety pairing up against most any in the league and I think we have good depth at cornerback finally. Linebacker is a MAJOR area of concern. I have the offense almost identical to yours except I don't think there's room for a 9th OL, I think Young and Brown will both be practice squad material, as I think they feel comfortable with Urbik at Center in the event of an emergency. On Defense, I think they may only keep 8 DL and cut Edwards for financial purposes. I think McKillop will make the team over Carder. I think they will keep McGee and only 3 safeties (give me a break, Bryan Scott can play Safety if he has to), so 9 DB's also. I think they keep John Potter. So I guess I have one guy left then huh? It will come down to Sam Young/Colin Brown/Tank Carder/Troup/Heard That's all I got. Edited August 5, 2012 by metzelaars_lives
Justice Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) OK, here it goes... For one, there no way our secondary is just barely better than our linebackers. I would put our Safety pairing up against most any in the league and I think we have good depth at cornerback finally. Linebacker is a MAJOR area of concern. I have the offense almost identical to yours except I don't think there's room for a 9th OL, I think Young and Brown will both be practice squad material, as I think they feel comfortable with Urbik at Center in the event of an emergency. On Defense, I think they may only keep 8 DL and cut Edwards for financial purposes. I think McKillop will make the team over Carder. I think they will keep McGee and only 3 safeties (give me a break, Bryan Scott can play Safety if he has to), so 9 DB's also. I think they keep John Potter. So I guess I have one guy left then huh? It will come down to Sam Young/Colin Brown/Tank Carder/Troup/Heard That's all I got. Don't forget, the Bills still have to re-sign Levitre and Urbik. Both of these guys will be free agents next year. They might have to keep all 11 of em on the roster just for insurance purposes in the event that they don't re-up with Buffalo. Heard I like, as well. I'm anticipating him to be IR'd. Edited August 6, 2012 by NoJustice
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