RuntheDamnBall Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Adding T.O. is just lunacy. The guy is not getting back into the NFL, folks. Not without a flux capacitor.
GG Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 I also think it would be a mistake to cut Danny Batten. That's right, I said it. I think he's shown steady improvement in two seasons and will continue to get better. Honestly, I'd rather lose Merriman. Then it's obvious that you didn't watch any Bills football last year to make this statement. Even on a 1/2 leg Merriman was head and shoulders above Batten. But I know, you can't have enough high motor lunch pail guys on the roster.
RuntheDamnBall Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Then it's obvious that you didn't watch any Bills football last year to make this statement. Even on a 1/2 leg Merriman was head and shoulders above Batten. But I know, you can't have enough high motor lunch pail guys on the roster. Besides: why rely on a 2 year old model when you've got a brand new one (Carder)?
The Cincinnati Kid Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 There are going to be some guys cut this year that have produced for us in the past. The writing in on the wall and its in the form of competition. I really am excited about it because the level of play is going to go up. Here are my 53: WRs - Nelson, Graham, Roosevelt, Johnson, Jones, Easley TEs - Chandler, Caussin Ts - Pears, Sanders, Hairston, Glenn Gs - Urbik, Asper, Reinhart, Levitre C - Wood RBs - Jackson, Spiller, Choice, McIntyre QBs - Fitzpatrick, Thigpen, Smith DEs - Williams, Anderson, Kelsey, Merriman DTs - Dareus, Williams, Troup, Carrington, Heard LBs - Morrison, Barnett, Bradham, Sheppard, Carder, Moats CBs - Gilmore, Williams, Florence, Brooks, McKelvin, Rogers Ss - Byrd, Wilson, Searcy, Scott Ks - Lindell, Potter P - Moorman LS - Sandborne I think of those guys, Roosevelt, Rogers, Troup, Heard, and Choice are on the "Bubble." Maybe Kelsey too. If we sign VY then Thigpen is likely out as well. I'd like to see other people's 53 man rosters too. I am hoping that Chris Brown will update us on the players that are PS players too because that would help us picture the final roster. Have Fun.
Shoutbox Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Your 53 is very similar to mine! Only 3 differences: 1. Brown instead of Asper. 2. Chris White instead of Heard. 3. Hagan instead of Roosevelt.
The Cincinnati Kid Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 I went back and forth on Asper and Brown. My reason for taking Asper was that he can play both C and G and so can Urbik. I don't know as much about Brown, other than Buddy said he likes guys that can play two positions because you only get 7 active on Sundays. If Brown can play G too then it will be an interesting Camp Battle. Maybe Asper sticks on the PS. My reason for Heard over White is that in the 4-3 system I believe that you'll need at least 5 DTs and 6 LBs. Heard gives us that, but again, I am not in any position of knowing and maybe the preferred position in the LB and 7 LBs is better than 5 DTs. Regardless, this competition is going to be fierce.
Captain Hindsight Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 I really think we could upgrade our LS position other than that i like it
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 I really think we could upgrade our LS position other than that i like it They always come crying back to Dorenbos, the Magic Man.
ChanOverChin Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Projected 53 man roster with some tough choices: QB: Fitz/Young/Smith RB: Jackson/Spiller/Choice FB: McIntyre TE: Chandler/Smith WR: Johnson/Nelson/Graham/Easley/Hagan/(B. Smith)/Martin OT: Glenn/Hairston/Pears/Sanders OG: Levitre/Urbik/Rheinhart OC: Wood/(Urbik) LS: Sanborn K: Lindell P: Moorman DE: M. Williams/Anderson/Merriman/Kelsay/Moats DT: K. Williams/Dareus/Edwards/Johnson/Troup/Carrington OLB: Barnett/Morrison/Bradham/Scott/(Moats) MLB: Sheppard/Carder CB: A. Williams/Gilmore/Florence/Brooks/McKelvin/McGee SS: Wilson/Howell FS: Byrd/Searcy Young vs Thigpen - Young is a much better athlete and someone that Gailey could make into a productive player. Thigpen is a very poor NFL QB. Choice vs J. White - Choice runs hard and is a weapon out of the backfield. White hasn't shown much as a RB, but can play ST. L. Smith vs vet FA - Smith is mostly just a blocker who isn't much of a receiver. Vet FA TEs Shiancoe or Scaife would be better options. Hagan/Jones/Easley vs Martin - All 3 will be in danger of being cut if Bills prefer Martin's ST prowess. Easley/Hagan stay. Jones has aligator arms. B. Smith plays WR too. Ideally, the Bills pickup a vet WR since Hagan and Martin are average WRs and Easley is a big question mark. Asper vs C. Brown vs Jasper - The best backup OC makes the team, which leaves Jasper out in the cold. Bills elect to cut all three and utilize Urbik as their backup OC. Carrington vs Heard vs K. Moore - Carrington has the greatest upside and can play both DT and DE. Enough said. C. White vs B. Scott - Scott covers TEs from the LB position and can play SS. Scott stays. Ideally, the Bills seek to add a vet LB to their LB corp as well. McGee vs McKelvin vs Rogers - Very tough call. I'm going with McGee and McKelvin for now because they have more experience. Both should be better with a much improved pass rush. Howell vs ?? - Howell is my surprise pick to make the final roster based upon his smarts and toughness. He's an outstanding ST player. Bills need a backup SS as well. The Bills are already looking to add Young to upgrade their backup QB position. Will they seek to upgrade their WR/TE/LB positions via FA as well??
marauderswr80 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 I think they plan on having 3 kickers. That kid they signed might do kickoffs instead of lindell....
d_wag Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Anyone who thinks Florence gets cut this year is completely insane. Won't happen. And for good reason. Great call!
Rubes Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Great call! I guess you didn't see me man up about it in the actual Florence thread, but thanks for being a d_bag about it.
Dragonborn10 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 It goes without saying that this is worth virtually nothing at this point; the draft's not even over. But I needed to sort through all our talent mentally, and writing out was the easiest way to do it. QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith RB (4): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Johnny White, Tashard Choice FB (1): Corey McIntyre WR (6): Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Donald Jones, TJ Graham, Derek Hagan, Marcus Easley TE (2): Scott Chandler, Mike Caussin OT (4): Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders OG (4): Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Mark Asper OC (2): Eric Wood, Colin Brown -- DE (5): Mario Williams, Mark Anderson, Shawne Merriman, Chris Kelsay, Robert Eddins DT (4): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Torrell Troup, Kellen Heard OLB (4): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham, Bryan Scott ILB (2): Kelvin Sheppard, Tank Carder CB (6): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Terrence McGee, Drayton Florence, Ron Brooks, Justin Rogers S (3): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy -- ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn Notable Cuts: Danny Batten, Arthur Moats, Leodis McKelvin, Spencer Johnson, Alex Carrington, Dwan Edwards. ------------- Somewhat optimistically, this has the first six rounds of draft picks make the team. For the 7th round, UDFAs, and future UFAs and other teams' cuts, I think the biggest opportunities are for a fourth safety (currently unfilled since Scott can play both positions), DL depth (although I think we're likely to shed a lot of veteran this summer, like Edwards, Carrington, Johnson), ILB, and potentially, TE. Now we know Florence is gone. McKelvin is likely safe. Carrington will be a DE. Merriman is an OLB in the 4-3. Either White or Choice will be cut. They will not carry 4 RB's. And Moorman will lose his job this Summer.
ny33 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Now we know Florence is gone. McKelvin is likely safe. Carrington will be a DE. Merriman is an OLB in the 4-3. Either White or Choice will be cut. They will not carry 4 RB's. And Moorman will lose his job this Summer. No. Merriman is a DE in our defense.
ChanOverChin Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 2011 starting lineup 9:(for most of the year due to injuries): OFFENSE: Fitz Spiller S. Johnson Hagan Nelson Chandler Bell Levitre Urbik Rheinhart Pears DEFENSE: Edwards Dareus Carrington Sp. Johnson Barnett A. Davis Batten Florence McKelvin Searcy Byrd Special Teams: Moorman Sanborn Couto Projected 2012 starting lineup (as of 5-6-12): OFFENSE: Fitz Jackson Spiller S. Johnson Nelson Chandler Glenn Levitre Wood Urbik Pears DEFENSE: M. Williams K. Williams Dareus Merriman Barnett Sheppard Morrison A. Williams S. Gilmore Wilson Byrd Special Teams: Moorman Sanborn Lindell Note: The biggest improvements of course are on defense and on ST. Huge improvements have been made with the additions of M. Williams, K. Williams, Merriman, Gilmore, A. Williams, Wilson (for the entire year), Sheppard, and Morrison. Don't forget that Wannstedt is a wiley veteran coach who I expect will be a difference-maker as well. On offense, having Jackson and Spiller for the entire year will make a big difference. We will need for one or more of the WRs (Easley, Graham, Jones, Hagan, B. Smith) to step up for there to be any significant improvement on offense. Who will play LT?? Can Wood stay healthy for the entire year?? On ST, adding Brook, Carder, and Bradham can only help. UFA SS Howell is a ST deamon as well, who I really like.
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 QB 3 RYAN FITZPATRICK, Vince Young, Brad Smith RB/FB 4 FRED JACKSON, CJ Spiller, Johnny White, Cory McIntyre TE 3 SCOTT CHANDLER, Lee Smith, Fendi Onobun WR 6 STEVIE JOHNSON, DAVID NELSON, MARCUS EASLEY, Darek Hagen, TJ Graham, David Clowney OL 9 CORDY GLENN, ANDY LEVITRE, ERIC WOOD, KRAIG URBIK, ERIC PEARS, Chad Rinehart, Chris Hairston, Zebrie Sanders, Mark Asper DL 9 MARIO WILLIAMS, MARCEL DARIUS, KYLE WILLIAMS, MARK ANDERSON, Shawne Merriman, Chris Kelsay, Dwan Edwards, Torell Troup, Spencer Johnson, LB 6 NICK BARNETT, KELVIN SHEPPARD, KIRK MORRISON, Nigel Bradham, Scott McKillop, Tank Carder DB 10 STEPHON GILMORE, AARON WILLIAMS, Tarrence McGee, Ron Brooks, Justin Rogers, Leodis McKelvin, JARIUS BYRD, GEORGE WILSON, Bryan Scott DaNorris Searcy ST 3 k RYAN LINDELL, p SHAUN POWELL, ls GARRISON SANBORN STARTERS ARE IN CAPS
Bangarang Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) You forgot Alex Carington. He probably makes the team over guys like Dwan Edwards and Spencer Johnson. Edited May 28, 2012 by Bangarang
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 You forgot Alex Carington. He probably makes the team over guys like Dwan Edwards and Spencer Johnson. Alex Carrington had only 16 total tackles and 1 sack last season Dwan Edwards had 52 tackles and 2.5 sacks Spencer Johnson had 47 tackles and 2 sacks It came down to production for me to think Carrington would not make it.
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