dollars 2 donuts Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Not saying that I can predict the roster but interesting on who could get cut. Starting with the depth chart as of today, cuts in Red. Offence 24 make the roster POS First Second Third Other QB Ryan Fitzpatrick Tyler Thigpen Vince Young Brad Smith RB Fred Jackson C.J. Spiller Tashard Choice Johnny White Zach Brown FB Corey McIntyre Dorin Dickerson WR Stevie Johnson Derek Hagan Ruvell Martin Naaman Roosevelt Kamar Aiken Derek Session LT Chris Hairston Cordy Glenn James Carmon LG Andy Levitre Keith Williams David Snow C Eric Wood Colin Brown Mark Asper RG Kraig Urbik Chad Rinehart Jake Vermiglio RT Erik Pears Sam Young Zebrie Sanders TE Scott Chandler Lee Smith Kevin Brock Fendi Onobun Mike Caussin WR Donald Jones David Nelson T.J. Graham Marcus Easley David Clowney Defense 25 make the roster DE Mario Williams Shawne Merriman Robert Eddins Sean Ferguson DT Marcell Dareus Spencer Johnson Alex Carrington Jarron Gilbert DT Kyle Williams Dwan Edwards Kellen Heard Torell Troup DE Mark Anderson Chris Kelsay Kyle Moore Jay Ross OLB Arthur Moats Kirk Morrison Chris White Danny Batten MLB Kelvin Sheppard Scott McKillop Tank Carder OLB Nick Barnett Bryan Scott Nigel Bradham CB Aaron Williams Leodis McKelvin Prince Miller Cris Hill CB Stephon Gilmore Terrence McGee Justin Rogers Ron Brooks FS Jairus Byrd Joshua Nesbitt Nick Saenz Delano Howell SS George Wilson Da'Norris Searcy Nick Sukay Isaiah Green Special teams 4 make the roster K Rian Lindell John Potter P Brian Moorman LS Garrison Sanborn Honestly, I don't know in what football universe we would be in to have only 7 offensive linemen.
Drewgetz Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Does everyone believe Easley will be cut? I had high hopes for him. Is he that bad or just that far behind?
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 You're nuts if you think Bradham is getting cut. PTR
widerightradio Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Unlikely they keep 7 WRs. Smith, Spiller, and Jackson can all line up at WR. Bills only kept 5 WRs last year. Only 3 OTs on the roster. I think it's Sanders or Young on the 53 man. I know Levitre can move outside in a pinch, but O-linemen get dinged up. You need depth. I think Edwards makes it over Carrington. But the front office will flinch at the idea of cutting Carrington, Troupe, Sanders, Asper, Batten, Easley, J. White, C. White, and Bradham. That would be an admission of some horrible drafting in the past 3 years. I think Bradham makes the 53 man roster. Fourth round picks generally do.
artmalibu Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Honestly, I don't know in what football universe we would be in to have only 7 offensive linemen. last year they only had 2 reserve ol dress for the game. Remove a WR and add a OL, who is the next WR out? You're nuts if you think Bradham is getting cut. PTR I am nuts, but with with 25 on defense someone has to go. I would assume that some the the draft picks will be on the PS. If you have him making it who gets cut in his place? Again I dont feel I have a special knowledge on who makes the team, but started this thread because I thought it was amazing on how many guys need to be cut. Edited August 20, 2012 by artmalibu
BillsGuyInMalta Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 You're nuts if you think Bradham is getting cut. PTR Agreed. Bradham is going to be a good one for us. Zero chance he gets cut.
Dragonborn10 Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I would doubt any of the WR's we cut would get picked up by another team so I think they go with 5 WR's including Smith. This opens up two spots for the OL. I think Brown and Sanders will be added to the OL. If/when injuries occur one of the WR's that gets cut will be available. Edwards over Heard. Troup to IR. I could see them carrying only three safeties and five CB's (McGee vs Rogers will be a tough call). Wilson and Byrd start with Wilson being able to move to FS in a pinch. Searcy backs up Wilson. Scott and Aaron Williams are the emergency back-ups. This allows them to keep an extra LB - Bradham.
artmalibu Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I would doubt any of the WR's we cut would get picked up by another team so I think they go with 5 WR's including Smith. This opens up two spots for the OL. I think Brown and Sanders will be added to the OL. If/when injuries occur one of the WR's that gets cut will be available. Edwards over Heard. Troup to IR. I could see them carrying only three safeties and five CB's (McGee vs Rogers will be a tough call). Wilson and Byrd start with Wilson being able to move to FS in a pinch. Searcy backs up Wilson. Scott and Aaron Williams are the emergency back-ups. This allows them to keep an extra LB - Bradham. good call on the WRs the guys that are the last 2 or 3 are nothing special. Agreed. Bradham is going to be a good one for us. Zero chance he gets cut. OK if he stays who goes? Tank?? dont think they will keep more than 25 on defense
NewEra Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Bradham stays. I think we'll keep an extra OL. Not sure who gets cut. Probably Ruvell/naaman and another
timba Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I think they're sticking with 6 WR instead of 7. Cut Naaman, Martin stays for ST. I agree with the sentiments that there are too few OL. Add back in Sam Young. I don't think Carrington makes it, but Dwan does. I think Tank gets put on the practice squad while Bradham makes the roster, ST. I think you nailed the DB situation, but it's going to be hard going into the season with 5CBs. Along with Tank, I'd have Zebrie Sanders, Isaiah Green, and Mark Asper on my practice squad.
K-Gun10 Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 cut Brock keep dickerson way to many wr see ya later Hagan...Naman looks good and Heard will stay along with Dwan
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 last year they only had 2 reserve ol dress for the game. Remove a WR and add a OL, who is the next WR out? ...but carried 9. You would cut a TE before cutting a wr.
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) ...but carried 9. You would cut a TE before cutting a WR. EDIT: but if you did cut a WR, even though I love the kid you cut Roosevelt. Sorry for the double post. I don't not notice that until now. Edited August 22, 2012 by dollars 2 donuts
FreakPop Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Not saying that I can predict the roster but interesting on who could get cut. Starting with the depth chart as of today, cuts in Red. Offence 24 make the roster POS First Second Third Other QB Ryan Fitzpatrick Tyler Thigpen Vince Young Brad Smith RB Fred Jackson C.J. Spiller Tashard Choice Johnny White Zach Brown FB Corey McIntyre Dorin Dickerson WR Stevie Johnson Derek Hagan Ruvell Martin Naaman Roosevelt Kamar Aiken Derek Session LT Chris Hairston Cordy Glenn James Carmon LG Andy Levitre Keith Williams David Snow C Eric Wood Colin Brown Mark Asper RG Kraig Urbik Chad Rinehart Jake Vermiglio RT Erik Pears Sam Young Zebrie Sanders TE Scott Chandler Lee Smith Kevin Brock Fendi Onobun Mike Caussin WR Donald Jones David Nelson T.J. Graham Marcus Easley David Clowney Defense 25 make the roster DE Mario Williams Shawne Merriman Robert Eddins Sean Ferguson DT Marcell Dareus Spencer Johnson Alex Carrington Jarron Gilbert DT Kyle Williams Dwan Edwards Kellen Heard Torell Troup DE Mark Anderson Chris Kelsay Kyle Moore Jay Ross OLB Arthur Moats Kirk Morrison Chris White Danny Batten MLB Kelvin Sheppard Scott McKillop Tank Carder OLB Nick Barnett Bryan Scott Nigel Bradham CB Aaron Williams Leodis McKelvin Prince Miller Cris Hill CB Stephon Gilmore Terrence McGee Justin Rogers Ron Brooks FS Jairus Byrd Joshua Nesbitt Nick Saenz Delano Howell SS George Wilson Da'Norris Searcy Nick Sukay Isaiah Green Special teams 4 make the roster K Rian Lindell John Potter P Brian Moorman LS Garrison Sanborn Don't think they are keeping 7 WR Don't think they are keeping B Smith and Young Don' t think they are keeping 4 special teamers Don't think they are keeping 9 DE and I would be shocked if they kept 3 TE
Armchair GM Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Plenty of arguements can be made for and against Dwan Edwards, or anyone else I listed for that matter. IMHO I don't think Edwards transitions well to a 43 DT and becomes a victim of circumstance. Hopefuly they let him go sone enough to catch on with a 34 team. Also, Carrington has been less than impressive and I like what Heard showed last year (big, young dude with a good upside). *Spencer Johnsons shoulder may let one of the two back into the mix Offense: 24, maybe 25 w/a 7th WR QB: Fitz; Young; Smith RB: Jackson; Spiller; Choice FB: McIntyre WR: Johnson; Haggan; Roosevelt LT: Glenn; Hairston (swing) LG: Levitre; Williams C: Wood; Brown RG: Urbik; Rhineheart RT: Pears TE: Chandler; Smith WR: Graham; Jones; Nelson (I'd like to see them keep 7, maybe Aiken?) *Call me less than impressed with our WR depth. I billieve we address that in 2013, regardless of Graham's pick this year. QB as well. Defense: 25, maybe 24 if we only carry 6 LB's DE: Williams; Gilbert DT: Williams; Johnson DT: Dareus; Heard DE: Anderson; Kelsay; Moore OLB: Barnett; Bradham MLB: Sheppard; McKillop, Carder (I like Carder over McKillop if we go w/6) OLB: Moats; Morrison CB: Williams; Brooks; McKelvin CB: Gillmore; McGee/Rogers (I like Rogers over both McGee & McKelvin. 2 of 3 will make it) FS: Byrd; Howell SS: Wilson; Searcy *LB is another concern and area for improvement in 2013, unless Bradham and Carder stand on their respective heads this year ST: 4, maybe 3 if we release Lyndel and carry 7 WR's or 7 LB's K; Lyndel/Potter P: Moorman LS: Sanborn I highlighted special teamers in green. (KO & KR) PS: 8? No idea hee, best guesses RB: White WR: Aiken TE: Onobun RG: Vermiglio RT: Sanders DE: Eddins (eligibility?) DT: Ross CB: Miller
Astrobot Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 RB: White WR: Aiken TE: Onobun RG: Vermiglio RT: Sanders DE: Eddins (eligibility?) DT: Ross CB: Miller That's a really good guess on the Practice Squad! I
You herd it hear last Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 They GOTTA be shopping McKelvin...with the depth there due to the introduction of Brooks and the need for other teams, they have a golden chance to get something outta him. Don'tcha think?
Best Player Available Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 They GOTTA be shopping McKelvin...with the depth there due to the introduction of Brooks and the need for other teams, they have a golden chance to get something outta him. Don'tcha think? They couldn't get a bag of used footballs for him. Last year of his rookie contract and he stays. Cheap insurance (for what I don't really know) but he will try to produce whatever they ask of him if he's got any game in him at all anymore. Maybe special teams ace. BTW thanks again for the pick Dick.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 Not bad, but on offense 1) I hope to heck Chan is not of a mind to keep only 7 OLmen this year. Dreadful mistake last year and cost us. Colin Brown and Sam Young both worth keeping IMO. Sanders and Asper are long shots; one may make the PS 2) Too many WR. I'd like to wave goodbye to Ruvell Martin and keep Rosie, but am dreadfully afraid it goes the other way. 3) Not sure Kevin Brock will make it. Anyone got some gouge on him? Caussin will not be cut as he is on PUP. This may lead us to keep just two TE figuring we can bring Caussin back if someone gets hurt. On defense 1) Troup is on IR and will not be cut 2) NO FREAKIN' WAY Bradham gets cut. Cut a 4th round draft pick who has looked promising in camp? Can I have some of that sh*t? Even Ed Wang got a year, and there is no way Bradham would clear waivers and go to our practice squad 3) Either Morrison or McKillop get cut before Bradham does. Bradham was a ST beast in college - which is why I'm hoping we can finally move Ruvell on along 4) I don't see Edwards getting cut and Carrington and Heard making the team. I think we go down to 8 DL if we need to, in order to keep 7 LB Here, this is how I see it. It's possible we stash a young DB on PS and keep another DL, not sure on that. Not saying that I can predict the roster but interesting on who could get cut. Starting with the depth chart as of today, cuts in Red. Offence 24 make the roster POS First Second Third Other QB Ryan Fitzpatrick Tyler Thigpen Vince Young Brad Smith RB Fred Jackson C.J. Spiller Tashard Choice Johnny White Zach Brown FB Corey McIntyre Dorin Dickerson WR Stevie Johnson Derek Hagan Ruvell Martin Naaman Roosevelt Kamar Aiken Derek Session LT Chris Hairston Cordy Glenn James Carmon LG Andy Levitre Keith Williams David Snow C Eric Wood Colin Brown Mark Asper RG Kraig Urbik Chad Rinehart Jake Vermiglio RT Erik Pears Sam Young Zebrie Sanders TE Scott Chandler Lee Smith Kevin Brock Fendi Onobun Mike Caussin (on PUP, doesn't count against roster) WR Donald Jones David Nelson T.J. Graham Marcus Easley David Clowney Defense 25 make the roster DE Mario Williams Shawne Merriman Robert Eddins Sean Ferguson DT Marcell Dareus Spencer Johnson Alex Carrington Jarron Gilbert DT Kyle Williams Dwan Edwards Kellen Heard Torell Troup DE Mark Anderson Chris Kelsay Kyle Moore Jay Ross OLB Arthur Moats Kirk Morrison Chris White Danny Batten MLB Kelvin Sheppard Scott McKillop Tank Carder OLB Nick Barnett Bryan Scott Nigel Bradham CB Aaron Williams Leodis McKelvin Prince Miller Cris Hill CB Stephon Gilmore Terrence McGee Justin Rogers Ron Brooks FS Jairus Byrd Joshua Nesbitt Nick Saenz Delano Howell SS George Wilson Da'Norris Searcy Nick Sukay Isaiah Green Special teams 4 make the roster K Rian Lindell John Potter P Brian Moorman LS Garrison Sanborn
Justice Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 2012 Buffalo Bills My projected 53 man roster [uPDATED] QB(3) Fitz is the man, no doubt about that. Gailey loves the guy. I, on the other hand, have lost trust in #14. Working on his mechanics this year have hurt him more than it has helped it has appeared.The #2 spot isn't as cut and dried. Vince Young is a cheaper alternative than Thigpen and he is a proven winner in the NFL, therefore I gotta go with VY. Grade: D+ [GRADE REDUCED] Fitzpatrick Young Smith RB(5) The Bills sport, at the very least, a top 3 running back tandem in the entire league. Freddie is healthy and ready to light up the NFL again. Spiller is in his third season and poised for a breakout year. The only battle here is between last years' draft choice Johnny White vs Tashard Choice. I went with Choice because he has started games in the NFL which would be invaluable to the Bills if something were to happen to Spiller or Fredex. Let's just hope Chan Gailey utilizes this group a ton. We need to be a run first team. Grade: A+ [GRADE UNCHANGED] Jackson Spiller Choice McIntyre Dickerson WR(6) I believe a lot of people will be surprised with how well this unit plays this year. Stevie and Donald are the starters, but you will see plenty of Nelson, who like Spiller, is in his third year which is usually the season WRs finally come into their own. I think this trio can combine for over 3000 yards. Hagan provides some veteran leadership, Graham supplies the speed. Naaman is my 53rd man on the roster. He deserves a roster spot. Grade: C+ [GRADE REDUCED] Johnson Jones Nelson Graham Easley [EDITED] Roosevelt: Naaman is my surprise player to make the cut. The kid catches everything thrown his way and can play special teams. Easley hasn't shown anything. That project is over. Hagan TE(2) Chandler proved his worth to the Bills last year and should only get better. He's a huge target and a good outlet for Fitzy if things breakdown. Smith is a decent blocker. Grade: C+ [GRADE UNCHANGED] Chandler Smith OL(11) If Cordy or Hairston can man the LT position adequately than the Bills can have a top 5 unit here. I love all the other starters. Levitre is the most underrated LG in the NFL. Wood was on his way to the All-Pro team before the injury. Both Urbik and Pears are solid to above average. We have decent depth here, with Rhinehart, and the loser of the LT battle (most likely Hairston). Urbik can play center if anything goes wrong with Wood. Grade: B- [GRADE REDUCED] Our injuries on the line has created a problem with chemistry. I'd like to see what this line can do when Wood and Pears stay in gthe lineup. Glenn Levitre Wood Urbik Pears Hairston Brown Rhinehart Young Sanders Sanborn [EDITED] Sanders and Young might make the team just so the Jets don't try to steal them from us, but keeping them both can be a problem for us at DT. Dwan Edwards and Spencer Johnson only have one or two years left on contact. We need to keep an insurance policy at that position on our roster for the future. DL(8) This is started to sound redundant, but the Bills have a top three unit in the league here, as well. We Bills fans are downright giddy at the thought of this unit playing together. Mario will demand double teams and free up at least one or two other guys to single match ups which will pose a huge problem to opposing defenses. Offenses will have to chip block our DEs using the RBs and tight ends will have to stay back and block more than they'd like to against us. Dareus and Kyle make up the best DT combo in the league and Anderson's speed rush is just the thing we need on a line full of power and speed. The Bills have some flexibility here as Dwan and Sp Johnson can play DE as well as tackle. Grade: A+ [GRADE UNCHANGED] Williams Anderson Kelsay Merrimen [EDITED] Moore: Bills like his potential. Dareus K. Williams Edwards Sp. Johnson Carrington [EDITED] Carrington has shown absolutely nothing. The Bills will keep 8 D-lineman instead of 9. LB(7) This is our weakest unit on the defense, but that's not meant to be a knock against our boys at linebacker, we're just so stacked with talent on the DL and secondary. Barnett is the best of the bunch. He can cover, and play the run. Our coaching staff has a lot of faith in Sheppard, so he must be at least adequate. So far in the preseason Sheppard looks to be a liability on defense. Morrison has been around for a while now in the NFL so he provides the D with some veteran leadership, but I believe Moats will steal his starting job shortly after the start of the season.[EDITED] Moats has already over taken the starting spot. Our other linebackers will play a significant role on special teams. Scott will be the nickel backer. Grade: D+ [GRADE REDUCED] Barnett Sheppard Morrison Carder Moats Bradham Scott DB(8) I have some concerns with this unit, but at the same time they can be special. Aaron Williams needs to get better. I don't agree with the majority of the board when it comes to AW. I thought he sucked last year, but he was a rookie and that's to be expected, EXCEPT when it comes to Gilmore. Stephon is ready to make a difference on this D as of now. The kid can play. he will get tested early and often, my bet is teams will start avoiding him well before mid-season. McKelvin is the X factor here. Call me hard headed but I still have faith in him, if he can just learn to play the ball while it's in the air. Rogers and Brooks have some promise. I love our safety tandem of Wilson and Byrd. Especially Byrd! Like he may play his way out of Buffalo, this year, that good!! I don't know if we'll be able to fit him under our cap next season. Our secondary will benefit greatly from our improved pass rush. Grade: B- [GRADE UNCHANGED] Williams Gilmore Byrd Wilson Brooks McKelvin Rogers Searcy K/P(3) Grade: A- [GRADE UNCHANGED] Lindell Potter [EDITED] Potter has been magnificent on kickoffs. He's a lock to make the roster and to be active every week. Moorman
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