ChanOverChin Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 B. Smith can play WR so that gives us six. Plus Spiller can also play in the slot and Chandler gives us yet another pass catcher. Easley just hasn't done enough yet. he has to do more to make the team I think. Do you take a 6th WR over Carrington, who is very young and can play both DE and DT?? Sanders and S. Young could battle it out for the 8th OL spot or the Bills may keep both guys. Right now Sanders has a lot to prove. Has Dickerson done enough to make the roster?? Not yet he hasn't. You can tell what the Bills really think by how they play these guys in preseason. if the no name guys like Dickerson don't get much playing time, don't get the chance to play with the 2s or enter the game after guys like L. Smith, Onubun, Caussin, and others then I'd say they're in trouble.
Shouldaplayedflutie99 Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Ruvelle Martin isn't going anywhere... I think he's a bad WR, but the coaches love him, and you can't deny his st ability. He makes the 53.
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 not sure about mcgee... need to see him in game 3 or 4...
3rdand12 Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Dickerson yes. Carrington no. not sure about Sanders. PS? I think Martin is a bubble player. not sure. i would let him go, but Buddy knows best eh?
BobChalmers Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 not sure about mcgee... need to see him in game 3 or 4... I'm almost sure he WON'T make the team. Did they not have 3 TE's last year? Sanders could wind up on the P/S. We are hurting at Safety with only 3 - as Nix already pointed out at the start of camp.
3rdand12 Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 we can always move Scott back temporarily, if needed Bob, while keeping him listed as a LB. I dont think we are "hurting" by any means at safeties. I think it's one of the strongest groups. McGee will probably make the team if he continues his slow progress, but as i mentined we better have a back up plan.
absolvedregicide Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 I posted this in the other thread, but since there's a new one I figured I'd post it here: Longtime reader, first time poster, here is my 53 Man Roster QB (3)- Fitzpatrick, Young, Smith HB (3)- Jackson, Spiller, Choice FB (2)- McIntyre, Dickerson WR (6)- Johnson, Jones, Nelson, Graham, Hagan, Martin TE (2)- Chandler, Smith Total 16 OT (4)- Glenn, Pears, Hairston, Sanders OG (3)- Levitre, Urbik, Rinehart C (2)- Wood, Asper Total 09 DE (4)- Williams, Anderson, Kelsay, Merriman DT (4)- Williams, Dareus, Edwards, Johnson MLB (3)- Sheppard, Carder, McKillop OLB (4)- Barnett, Moats, Bradham, Scott CB (6)- Gilmore, Williams, McKelvin, McGee, Brooks, Rogers S (3)- Wilson, Byrd, Searcy Total 24 K (2)- Lindell, Potter P (1)- Moorman LS (1)- Sanborn Total 04 Notable Cuts and Commentary QB- If Thigpen and Young are equally as bad, edge should go to the QB that’s still learning the system and can at least run. WR- Easley, Roosevelt. I’d love to see Easley come on late, but right now I think Ruvall Martin takes his spot due to S/Ts. TE- Smith makes it because of his blocking ability; I think Onobun ends up on PS. C- A lot of people left Asper off their lists, but I think he makes it. They drafted him for a reason (see also Potter) DL- Troup, Heard, Carrington. These players drafted to fit a 3-4; there’s no room for them on this roster in this scheme. LB- Batten. The man without a position can’t find a team either. S- I think they ride with 3 safeties because Scott can play back in a pinch and no one has really separated themselves. ST- I think both Potter and Sanborn make it; the Bills have shown Specials Teams is a priority for them.
shoretalk Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 I keep looking at this team and I can't help but be excited about the season. We are going to have to cut some really decent talent to make the 53. So, with one preseason game in the books and the team coming back to THE RALPH ... here's my current roster: QUARTERBACKS (3) - Fitz, Young, and Smith (We are definitely going into the season with 3 QB's and having Smith not count against the game day roster is a plus and there's no doubt he is in Gailey's plans based on the last practices in Rochester and his comments since we signed Smith last year. It does not matter that Young could run a Wild Cat hybrid, Gailey is building our Wild Cat around Smith.). RUNNING BACKS (4) - Freddie, CJ, Choice and Mac (His special teams skills are needed plus it seems that he has been worked more into the passing game this summer.). WIDE RECEIVERS (6) - Stevie, Jones, Nelson, Graham, Hagan, and *Martin (The Martin spot is up for grabs with Martin winning because of his special teams' ability but with Potter making my team it is possible that Martin will be cut to open up a spot for Roosevelt who catches everything and can return punts or Clowney who might surprise. Sadly (I was a big hopeful fan) Easely is not showing enough in camp to merit bumping one of these other guys. It is also possible the Bills might go with 5 wide receivers since Smith and Spiller both can be spread out.). TIGHT ENDS (3) - Chandler, Smith, and Dickerson (Smith is the classic blocking tight end for double tight end formations. Caussin is going to end up IR or an injury release because his time missed is almost too great now for him to compete. The mystery is Dickerson and right now I think he makes the team.). OFFENSIVE LINE (8) - Glenn, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Pears, Harriston, Rinehart, and Asper (Asper is not having a great camp but we need someone else who can rotate between guard and center. Young looked decent at tackle but I am not sure if he can play guard. Zebrie has potential but I think he goes to the PS.) DEFENSIVE ENDS (4) - Williams, Anderson, Kelsay, and Merriman (All depends on the coaching staff's evaluation of Merriman's health. We might hold on to a Kyle Moore or Robert Eddins if Merriman is iffy but then again Dwan Edwards can shift over to the DE spot too.). DEFENSIVE TACKLES (4) - Dareus, Williams, Johnson, and Edwards (Carrington has a slim shot and Troup might go IR one more year. Heard has lost too much time due to minor nicks and I can't see him making it unless he really shines between now and opening day.). OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS (4) - Moats, Barnett, Bradham, and Scott (Morrison is popular with the coaching staff but so far in camp he really seems to be always a step behind.). MIDDLE LINEBACKERS (3) - Sheppard, McKillop, and Carder (This creates flexibility for the Outside too with McKillop and Carder). CORNERBACKS (6) - Williams, Gilmore, Brooks, McGee, Rogers, and McKelvin (Why have we not heard what Rogers' injury is? Can McGee really play any more? This position has so many maybes. Prince Miller looked good and I am not sure if they are looking at Green as a safety or a corner but in game one against the scrubs he impressed. If Rogers and McGee are both healthy I can see us trying to move McKelvin so we could keep Miller/Green. Every preseason it seems that teams lose starting cornerbacks so maybe a 5th pick and we say goodbye to McKelvin because he'll be gone next season any how.). SAFETIES (4) - Byrd, Wilson, Searcy, and Nesbitt (See comments about Green above.) SPECIAL TEAMS (4) - Moorman, Lindell, Potter, and Sanborn (We HAVE TO keep Potter, he is a game changer but Lindell is still a keeper too.)
snamsnoops Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 Why couldn't the bills just put Easley on the PS? I mean you put him out there for other teams to sign, but if ther are no takers why not PS him and see what happens. He could always come in later in the year after injuries!
vincec Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) I am not convinced that the Bills are going to keep both Potter and Lindell. Potter has been very accurate with his FGs during camp and if we start seeing him hitting field goals during the preseason games I think that there's a chance that Lindell could be gone. Edited August 17, 2012 by vincec
uncle flap Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 I guess I've waited long enough, so here goes nothin'! QB: Ryan Fitzpatrick Vince Young Brad Smith RB: Fred Jackson CJ Spiller Tashard Choice FB: Corey McIntyre Dorin Dickerson TE: Scott Chandler Lee Smith WR: Steve Johnson TJ Graham David Nelson Donald Jones Marcus Easley OT: Cordy Glenn Chris Hairston Erik Pears Zebrie Sanders OG: Andy Levitre Kraig Urbik Chad Rinehart C: Eric Wood Colin Brown DE: Mario Williams Mark Anderson Shawne Merriman Chris Kelsay DT: Marcell Dareus Kyle Williams Dwan Edwards Spencer Johnson Alex Carrington LB: Kelvin Sheppard Nick Barnett Arthur Moats Kirk Morrison Nigel Bradham Bryan Scott Tank Carder CB: Stephon Gilmore Aaron Williams Leodis McKelvin Ron Brooks Justin Rogers Terrence McGee* S: George Wilson Jairus Byrd Da’Norris Searcy ST: Rian Lindell John Potter Brian Moorman Garrison Sanborn *McGee is the wild card here. I think if he is headed to the IR or cutsville, he might just retire. It gets really interesting if McGee doesn't make it. I could see Troup, McKillop, Hagan, or a FS not already on the team taking that spot. I don't think any of the safeties currently on the roster make it over any of these previously mentioned players. I know what Nix said, but I think he meant exactly what he said: they'd like to add a fourth safety, not that they are going to add a fourth safety just to add a fourth safety. So those are the guys on the outside looking in, IMO (Troup, McKillop, Hagan and [unsigned safety]). The guys on the inside looking out would be: McIntyre, Carrington, Carder, and Easley. I currently have him making the team, but the shocker cut could be Donald Jones. If both Easley and Hagan pick it up between now and final cuts, DoJo could be looking for a job elsewhere. I don't see that happening at all, but I had to put something controversial
artmalibu Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Not saying that I can predict the roster but interesting on who could get cut. Starting with the depth chart as of today, cuts in Red. Offence 24 make the roster POS First Second Third Other QB Ryan Fitzpatrick Tyler Thigpen Vince Young Brad Smith RB Fred Jackson C.J. Spiller Tashard Choice Johnny White Zach Brown FB Corey McIntyre Dorin Dickerson WR Stevie Johnson Derek Hagan Ruvell Martin Naaman Roosevelt Kamar Aiken Derek Session LT Chris Hairston Cordy Glenn James Carmon LG Andy Levitre Keith Williams David Snow C Eric Wood Colin Brown Mark Asper RG Kraig Urbik Chad Rinehart Jake Vermiglio RT Erik Pears Sam Young Zebrie Sanders TE Scott Chandler Lee Smith Kevin Brock Fendi Onobun Mike Caussin WR Donald Jones David Nelson T.J. Graham Marcus Easley David Clowney Defense 25 make the roster DE Mario Williams Shawne Merriman Robert Eddins Sean Ferguson DT Marcell Dareus Spencer Johnson Alex Carrington Jarron Gilbert DT Kyle Williams Dwan Edwards Kellen Heard Torell Troup DE Mark Anderson Chris Kelsay Kyle Moore Jay Ross OLB Arthur Moats Kirk Morrison Chris White Danny Batten MLB Kelvin Sheppard Scott McKillop Tank Carder OLB Nick Barnett Bryan Scott Nigel Bradham CB Aaron Williams Leodis McKelvin Prince Miller Cris Hill CB Stephon Gilmore Terrence McGee Justin Rogers Ron Brooks FS Jairus Byrd Joshua Nesbitt Nick Saenz Delano Howell SS George Wilson Da'Norris Searcy Nick Sukay Isaiah Green Special teams 4 make the roster K Rian Lindell John Potter P Brian Moorman LS Garrison Sanborn Edited August 20, 2012 by artmalibu
towelie Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 put Merriman in red: https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/237558155901558784
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I agree pretty much except for the following players you listed as cuts that I think will either be on the team or at least PS. Zebrie Sanders Nigel Bradham I wish they would cut Troup but think they will keep him on IR this season CBF
l< j Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Would like to see artmalibu edit this post now that Merriman is gone.
cage Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I agree pretty much except for the following players you listed as cuts that I think will either be on the team or at least PS. Zebrie Sanders Nigel Bradham I wish they would cut Troup but think they will keep him on IR this season CBF I don't think Bradham will be cut, but to me Sanders is gone and could be added practice squad (maybe). I was at training camp over a week ago and Sanders looked awful. Only 7 OL could be an issue too...
The Poojer Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Do we get 53 total or 53 active? How many can u carry on IR, PUP, PS etc...any of these projected cuts worthy of those spots?
artmalibu Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Would like to see artmalibu edit this post now that Merriman is gone. Done Merriman out and Carrington in. Offence 24 make the roster POS First Second Third Other QB Ryan Fitzpatrick Tyler Thigpen Vince Young Brad Smith RB Fred Jackson C.J. Spiller Tashard Choice Johnny White Zach Brown FB Corey McIntyre Dorin Dickerson WR Stevie Johnson Derek Hagan Ruvell Martin Naaman Roosevelt Kamar Aiken Derek Session LT Chris Hairston Cordy Glenn James Carmon LG Andy Levitre Keith Williams David Snow C Eric Wood Colin Brown Mark Asper RG Kraig Urbik Chad Rinehart Jake Vermiglio RT Erik Pears Sam Young Zebrie Sanders TE Scott Chandler Lee Smith Kevin Brock Fendi Onobun Mike Caussin WR Donald Jones David Nelson T.J. Graham Marcus Easley David Clowney Defense 25 make the roster DE Mario Williams Shawne Merriman Robert Eddins Sean Ferguson DT Marcell Dareus Spencer Johnson Alex Carrington Jarron Gilbert DT Kyle Williams Dwan Edwards Kellen Heard Torell Troup DE Mark Anderson Chris Kelsay Kyle Moore Jay Ross OLB Arthur Moats Kirk Morrison Chris White Danny Batten MLB Kelvin Sheppard Scott McKillop Tank Carder OLB Nick Barnett Bryan Scott Nigel Bradham CB Aaron Williams Leodis McKelvin Prince Miller Cris Hill CB Stephon Gilmore Terrence McGee Justin Rogers Ron Brooks FS Jairus Byrd Joshua Nesbitt Nick Saenz Delano Howell SS George Wilson Da'Norris Searcy Nick Sukay Isaiah Green Special teams 4 make the roster K Rian Lindell John Potter P Brian Moorman LS Garrison Sanborn Again I dont think that I have special knowledge on the roster cuts, but a lot of players wont be with the team in a few weeks.
NickelCity Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I wonder if they might keep Dickerson over Choice.
Coach55 Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) You are heavy on the receivers (figure 5) 6 max (with #6 being Ruvell Martin if they keep 6), Roosevelt Gone. Very light on the Line, figure Brown and Young the additions. They will only carry 2 TEs - Chandler and Smith. Defensively I still don't understand why people keep writing off Dwan Edwards - he will make the team over Heard. One of Dickerson/Heard/Carrington will be kept... all depends on the direction Gailey wants to go. McGee makes it over Carder (who will be PS). Edited August 20, 2012 by Coach55
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