jjmac Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Let's say OT Matt Kalil falls to the Jacksonville Jaguars at #7..... Just saying Would you give up your first at #10 and your 2nd #41 in this years draft to get Matt Kalil? Trade value is close favoring Jacksonville... Bills get one hellva player making the Bills O-line really solid. No. We need all of our draft picks.
Dragonborn10 Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Would anybody trade down to Philadelphia at number 15 along with picking up Asante Samuel and a 3rd round pick. I think that would be fair. Bills get a capable CB and an extra third round pick and still at #15 they can draft a LT or LB.
Spun Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Interesting! Very gutsy! If you want to swing for the fence, that is how to do it. I sense the Bills aren't that gutsy! Is the difference between Kalhil and the next best OT equal to the two picks? Doubt it! Crazy things happen on draft day. But usually they don't work out in the Bills favor. What is his name? John McCargo? I can say gun shy in two notes...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Interesting! Very gutsy! If you want to swing for the fence, that is how to do it. I sense the Bills aren't that gutsy! Is the difference between Kalhil and the next best OT equal to the two picks? Doubt it! Crazy things happen on draft day. But usually they don't work out in the Bills favor. What is his name? John McCargo? I can say gun shy in two notes... The gap would be one pick.
Rico Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Depends on who Nix is really targeting at #10. I would trade Kuechly and #41 for Kalil in a heartbeat.... Floyd and #41, maybe not.
BuffaloRebound Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 No. That's too much to move up 3 spots where supposedly everyone after the Indy and Washington is trying to trade down. I do it for a 3rd rounder.
disco Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 You're saying would we give up #42 for Kalil? Well, it's actually pretty interesting when you look at the players we've selected with roughly that draft spot in the last 10 years: 2011: Aaron Williams (34) 2010: Torell Troup (41) 2009: Jairus Byrd (42) 2008: James Hardy (41) 2007: Paul Posluszny (34) 2006-2004: No picks in that range 2003: Chris Kelsay (48) 2002: Josh Reed (36) 2001: Aaron Schobel (46) It's actually a decent list to me given how horrible many of the drafts over that time have been. All but Hardy and Troup played significant start minutes for us - and even those two have/did not due to injury. Still, the idea of having that position filled is awfully tempting. Can't say I'd be disappointed to hear we made that trade.
aussiebills Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Depends on who Nix is really targeting at #10. I would trade Kuechly and #41 for Kalil in a heartbeat.... Floyd and #41, maybe not. Floyd is nowhere near as valuable as Kuechly
Rico Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Floyd is nowhere near as valuable as Kuechly Disagree. High motor, low impact 4-3 LB is poor value at #10.
Offside Number 76 Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Yes. 1-Kalil LT for next 12 years 3-Mohamed Sanu WR 4-Tank Carder OLB 4-Justin Bethel CB 5-Orson Charles TE 5-Marquis Maze WR 6-Omar Bolden CB 7-Brett Roy DT 7-Billy Winn DT/DE I was going to say yes, and then I saw this. Since you, IMO, know the draft better than anyone on this board, I'll now change my answer to "definitely yes."
biglukes Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) No way Mularkey helps the Bills Yeah, I can't see him doing it. Besides, he has a hard enough time helping his own team as it is. I feel like that new owner in Jax wants something flashy so I'm not convinced he'd take Kalil if he's there. Edited April 24, 2012 by biglukes
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Let's say OT Matt Kalil falls to the Jacksonville Jaguars at #7..... Just saying Would you give up your first at #10 and your 2nd #41 in this years draft to get Matt Kalil? Trade value is close favoring Jacksonville... Bills get one hellva player making the Bills O-line really solid. Personally I think in the unlikely event that situation occurs the Jags take Kalil. They have a "sensitive" QB to nurture and had a poor OL performance last year. I may be a minority opinion here though.
biggerdaddynj Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Of course you make the trade. He's a legit stud LT in ANY draft who is worth giving up a 2 even if he"only" last 7 years. The beauty of our FA signings means we now have the flexibility to make moves like this. As Buddy noted, there is depth at WR so no need to panic there. We can still nab our OLB with our 3rd and then add a CB with one of our 4s and go BPA for the rest of the draft. Now that I've wasted all this time typing, Kalil ain't dropping that far. Edited April 24, 2012 by biggerdaddynj
JPS Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 If Kalil is anywhere close to Thomas or Long, of course you do it. If you can take some of the the 'crap' out of crapshoot, do it.
billsfan89 Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 I would try to get it down to pick 73 and a 5th rounder plus a conditional 4th that could move up to a 3rd next year. But I don't think that gets it done. Hard to say that another team might not do it but I think you have a lot of other options to go with at 10 if they don't take a decent package to move down 3 spots that includes a 3rd rounder and 5th rounder this season along with a pick next season.
aussiebills Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Disagree. High motor, low impact 4-3 LB is poor value at #10. I would agree with you because we should be targeting a game changer at 10. But with NE (gronk, hernandez) NYJ (Keller) in our division, kuechly will be a game changer with his coverage skills, he could really add an asset to our defense. He can play three downs caz as you said he is high motor
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