Spiller Pick Evaluation

[brenty]

Boob

 

B = Top view

 

oo = front view

 

b = side view

 

Boob is a great word, this bulletin however...

[BuckeyeBill]

If a player at any position is MUCH HIGHER than anyone else on your board, you take him. I have no problem with this philosophy.

 

Would not be surprised if the Bills took at DE at #10 even though they have Mario now.

[bigc14120]

The fact that Spiller started some games at WR last year make the pick excellent. The guy is versatile in a scheme where players with versatility are needed. I am happy with the Spiller pick and I think that with him and Fred, we will have an excellent rushing attack again this season.

Spiller was not excellant at WR. Smith did a much better job filling in there. There were things that Spiller had to learn, and he couldn't do all the moves for sure. Non the less, he did play there ,and I think that experience will make him a better back this year. It was OJT in an emergency and he was a C- wide out. I think, however he is an A- Rb, he just isn't that power back to get you the tough third and one done.

[Dopey]

Loved the pick at the time and still do. Gailey said we needed talent and he was the most talented player at that draft position. This team lacked so much talent it was almost depressing and I like to think of the NFL as entertainment and not live my life through the Bills.

[Homey D. Clown]

Historically speaking, I have been very happy with the Spiller pick, if you sift through my posts going all the way back and through his first season, I have maintained that the Spiller pick will be one Bills fans will appreciate when it's all said and done, along the lines of an Andre Reed, or Eric Moulds kind of pick. I have never been a Marshawn fan, and always thought he was an average or worse talent, definitely not a game changer, and I had enough of all his side stepping.

 

I hope there are enough plays called to support Spiller's growth, and feed Freddie, they both deserve it at this point in their careers.

[CodeMonkey]

Historically speaking, I have been very happy with the Spiller pick, if you sift through my posts going all the way back and through his first season, I have maintained that the Spiller pick will be one Bills fans will appreciate when it's all said and done, along the lines of an Andre Reed, or Eric Moulds kind of pick. I have never been a Marshawn fan, and always thought he was an average or worse talent, definitely not a game changer, and I had enough of all his side stepping.

 

I hope there are enough plays called to support Spiller's growth, and feed Freddie, they both deserve it at this point in their careers.

I sure hope you are right. But for now I'm still waiting.

[Billsrhody]

I like Spiller a lot. I have no objection to him being on the roster whatsoever. I think he's going to have a fine career. My problem was using the #9 pick on him. In the "new" NFL, RBs are no longer the stars of the draft. I wouldn't say they're a dime a dozen, but their value has fallen dramatically over the last decade as the league has become overwhelmingly a passing one. This year, Richardson seems to be the only one being talked about as a top pick and even that isn't certain. I don't know if the Bills could have grabbed him in the second round, but they surely could have gotten a very good runner later on. I'm too lazy to look it up, but someone around here probably knows which DTs, DEs, WRs, QBs that were available that year at #9.

 

Well at least you wont have to worry about the bills spending another high pick on a RB for the next 6 or 7 years.

[reddogblitz]

I didn't like the Spiller pick then or now.

This past season certainly did not prove the wisdom of the pick to me.

Spiller clearly improved certain aspects of his game as the season went on, but his overall performance was not one of a first round running back in his second season in my opinion.

 

I'm not ready to call him a bust (yet). But I am also nowhere near ready to call it a wise pick either.

I agree 100% with this. While he showed some flashes last year he has in no way IMHO established himself as a quality RB. We'll see what happens this year.

[PDaDdy]

Was CJ a good pick even though we could have kept Marshawn?

 

We weren't keeping Marshawn. I didn't want to believe it myself and thought we would be stupid to get rid of him but I was wrong. One of the popular phrases of the era is "it's a passing league". Also popular is the "2 back system". We have have 2 great ones. One just starting his career and one closer to the end. I don't quite understand this debate as I am REALLY glad we have them both. Now Gailey just needs to find each of them enough touches for the sake of the team not for their individual egos.

Edited April 19, 2012 by PDaDdy

[Dopey]

I agree 100% with this. While he showed some flashes last year he has in no way IMHO established himself as a quality RB. We'll see what happens this year.

He hasn't had the chance. Fred has been awesome. When Fred got hurt we saw glimpses of what he can do if given the ball regularly. I'm not saying give it to him more than Freddy, just saying when he had the chance he performed pretty well. Don't forget he had to take time away from RB(practice snaps) when he filled in at WR. He had to take snaps at WR which didn't help his developement at RB.

[reddogblitz]

1 St. Louis Rams Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma Big 12

1 2 Detroit Lions Ndamukong Suh† DT Nebraska Big 12

1 3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma Big 12

1 4 Washington Redskins Trent Williams OT Oklahoma Big 12

1 5 Kansas City Chiefs Eric Berry† S Tennessee SEC

1 6 Seattle Seahawks Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State Big 12

1 7 Cleveland Browns Joe Haden CB Florida SEC

1 8 Oakland Raiders Rolando McClain LB Alabama SEC

1 9 Buffalo Bills C. J. Spiller RB Clemson ACC

1 10 Jacksonville Jaguars Tyson Alualu DT California Pac-10

1 11 San Francisco 49ers Anthony Davis OT Rutgers Big East from Chicago via Denver[R1 - 1]

1 12 San Diego Chargers Ryan Mathews† RB Fresno State WAC from Miami [R1 - 2]

1 13 Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Graham DE Michigan Big Ten from San Francisco via Denver[R1 - 3]

1 14 Seattle Seahawks Earl Thomas† S Texas Big 12 from Denver [R1 - 4]

1 15 New York Giants Jason Pierre-Paul† DE South Florida Big East

1 16 Tennessee Titans Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech ACC

1 17 San Francisco 49ers Mike Iupati G Idaho WAC from Carolina [R1 - 5]

1 18 Pittsburgh Steelers Maurkice Pouncey† C Florida SEC

1 19 Atlanta Falcons Sean Weatherspoon LB Missouri Big 12

1 20 Houston Texans Kareem Jackson CB Alabama SEC

I would say that Ryan Mathews, Earl Thomas (Pro Bowl 2011), and Mike Iupati would all have been better picks for the Bills than Spiller. Maybe Anthony Davis as well. I also toss in Brian Bulaga who went to the Cheese a little later in round 1.

[Matt in KC]

There are three main philosophies you can use to choose player in the draft:

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• Best player available (BPA)
  
• Position of need
  
• Benefit of hindsight
  

 

Personally, I'd like to use the benefit of hindsight wherever possible.

 

I don't think any team really uses BPA, completely ignoring need. On the other hand, I do think team sometimes focus on need and don't have the luxury of taking the BPA, because, well, they need a player a position. I think some teams can handle uncertainty better on draft day than others, and others are prettty clear on what they are going to do.

 

Seriously, I think it's better to use a BPA-heavy evaluation the earlier the pick. You'd better get a stud if you have a top pick!

 

One gripe: I haven't replied to anyone yet, but have read dozens of times people post that they believe we should take the best player available... so long as they fill a postion we need. I do agree that we shouldn't take the second or third best player at a position we need when it's time to pick.

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Well at least you wont have to worry about the bills spending another high pick on a RB for the next 6 or 7 years.

Did you HAVE TO say that?