New Draft Strategy

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Many Teams like to acquire as many picks as possible which is good if a major overhaul is needed but in reality how many great players are there going to be in the latter rounds (yes I know we have hit on many late rounders but all that shows s how many misses we had early). How many times have you gone through draft boards and as you're going through the early rounds and thought man I want this guy and this guy and this guy and you realize you only have one pick per round.

 

What I would do is trade back in the first to get more 1st or second round picks and then trade up my 4+5 for another second and 6+7s (we always seem to get comp picks) for another 4rth. In General This would give us 6 total picks where the majority of great to probowl players are and where many first round talents slide back because teams are reaching for them in the first. I wouldn't trade up in the first because it costs too much unless there was a can't miss player. I now you need trade partners but NE seems to manage it every so we can too. Also I would trade fading stars for additional picks like we did with Evans. The rest of the roster would be filled with UDFAs who are just about as good as 5,6,7th rounders.

 

A team that was made up mostly 1,2,3,4 rounders would be incredibly hard to beat.

 

So this year we trade our first for one in the late teens early 20's and get a second, 2 4rths for a 2, 2 5ths for third and 6 & 2 7s for 4rth.

 

 

1. Stephen Hill Georgia Tech 6'5" 200 WR

2. Coby Fleener Stanford 6'6" 247 TE

2. Lavonte David Nebraska 6'1" 233 OLB

2. Josh Robinson Central Florida 5'10" 199 CB

3. Jared Crick Nebraska 6'4" 279 DE

3. Mitchell Schwartz California 6'5" 318 LT

4. B.J. Coleman Chattanooga 6'3" 220 QB

[deep2evans]

would love that draft.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

would love that draft.

me too

[atlbillsfan1975]

Many Teams like to acquire as many picks as possible which is good if a major overhaul is needed but in reality how many great players are there going to be in the latter rounds (yes I know we have hit on many late rounders but all that shows s how many misses we had early). How many times have you gone through draft boards and as you're going through the early rounds and thought man I want this guy and this guy and this guy and you realize you only have one pick per round.

 

What I would do is trade back in the first to get more 1st or second round picks and then trade up my 4+5 for another second and 6+7s (we always seem to get comp picks) for another 4rth. In General This would give us 6 total picks where the majority of great to probowl players are and where many first round talents slide back because teams are reaching for them in the first. I wouldn't trade up in the first because it costs too much unless there was a can't miss player. I now you need trade partners but NE seems to manage it every so we can too. Also I would trade fading stars for additional picks like we did with Evans. The rest of the roster would be filled with UDFAs who are just about as good as 5,6,7th rounders.

 

A team that was made up mostly 1,2,3,4 rounders would be incredibly hard to beat.

 

So this year we trade our first for one in the late teens early 20's and get a second, 2 4rths for a 2, 2 5ths for third and 6 & 2 7s for 4rth.

 

 

1. Stephen Hill Georgia Tech 6'5" 200 WR

2. Coby Fleener Stanford 6'6" 247 TE

2. Lavonte David Nebraska 6'1" 233 OLB

2. Josh Robinson Central Florida 5'10" 199 CB

3. Jared Crick Nebraska 6'4" 279 DE

3. Mitchell Schwartz California 6'5" 318 LT

4. B.J. Coleman Chattanooga 6'3" 220 QB

Bill Belicheck?

 

But you also dont address the tackle until your sixth pick?

No thanks on that idea

Edited April 14, 2012 by atlbillsfan1975

[FleaMoulds80]

I personally would dislike this draft. First, you're willing to take a WR that's extremely RAW with our number 1 pick? Someone who won't contribute for at least 2 or 3 years? Wasted pick number 1. Number 2...Fleener? This guy is rated number 1 TE in this year's class because this is a VERY weak TE class. Thirdly, I still don't understand people's obsession with Lavonte David. An undersized Will LB that struggles to disengage blockers and stop the run. We have plenty of that, which is why we struggle against the run. So where's the players that can contribute from day one? With the spending spree off Anderson and Mario, we're trying to win now. The way I see it, we need players that can step onto the field, day one and these guys arent it.

 

Give me a sure fire pick at number 1 that can start from day one. Luke Kuechly, Michael Floyd, or even David DeCastro.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Bill Belicheck?

 

But you also dont address the tackle until your sixth pick?

No thanks on that idea

Neither will Nix.

 

So you want to give up all these great players cuz of no early LT?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I personally would dislike this draft. First, you're willing to take a WR that's extremely RAW with our number 1 pick? Someone who won't contribute for at least 2 or 3 years? Wasted pick number 1. Number 2...Fleener? This guy is rated number 1 TE in this year's class because this is a VERY weak TE class. Thirdly, I still don't understand people's obsession with Lavonte David. An undersized Will LB that struggles to disengage blockers and stop the run. We have plenty of that, which is why we struggle against the run. So where's the players that can contribute from day one? With the spending spree off Anderson and Mario, we're trying to win now. The way I see it, we need players that can step onto the field, day one and these guys arent it.

 

Give me a sure fire pick at number 1 that can start from day one. Luke Kuechly, Michael Floyd, or even David DeCastro.

That's what first round picks are for reaching for that extreme talent There are no sure fire picks, Kuechly is overrated, Floyd has been pushed up the boards and guards can had anywhere.

 

David rocks and will be a great LB in our system, Fleener will be the next Ed McCaffrey but bigger and faster.

Edited April 15, 2012 by Buffalo Barbarian

[swnybillsfan]

i love the concept of getting more quality picks there. the choices are debateable depending on personal preference, but i do really like the theory behind it. a team could definately get a nice talent infusion with this plan.

[NeverOutNick]

Would be an awesome strategy if we could pull it off and I love your first 4 picks! I'd rather have Russell Wilson as our QB though.

[SelmonSmith6378]

How about Donta Hightower instead of Hill? And Kirk Cousins instead of Fleener?

[Captain Hindsight]

I stopped reading when you said you'd trade back like every team wants our pick. Casserly was saying the other day that there isn't a big difference between player 7 and 20. So why exactly would someone trade up and give us a pick to get a comparable player? Besides your own wish that they will?

[swnybillsfan]

I stopped reading when you said you'd trade back like every team wants our pick. Casserly was saying the other day that there isn't a big difference between player 7 and 20. So why exactly would someone trade up and give us a pick to get a comparable player? Besides your own wish that they will?

i think that this is just another fun "what if" scenerio that is designed to pass what seems like a frickin' eternity 'til the draft.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

How about Donta Hightower instead of Hill? And Kirk Cousins instead of Fleener?

Thought about Highttower but he doesn't fit our fast flow LB philosophy. Fleener is better than cousins and Coleman has more Talent than him and has a chance to be a starter whereas Cousins will probably be a career backup albeit a good one, like Fitz should be for us in few years.

 

I stopped reading when you said you'd trade back like every team wants our pick. Casserly was saying the other day that there isn't a big difference between player 7 and 20. So why exactly would someone trade up and give us a pick to get a comparable player? Besides your own wish that they will?

Lost me on that last part.

 

There is always some team that is desperate for a need and may want a guy like Richardson, Kuechly or Floyd maybe even Coples.

[Captain Hindsight]

Thought about Highttower but he doesn't fit our fast flow LB philosophy. Fleener is better than cousins and Coleman has more Talent than him and has a chance to be a starter whereas Cousins will probably be a career backup albeit a good one, like Fitz should be for us in few years.

 

 

Lost me on that last part.

 

There is always some team that is desperate for a need and may want a guy like Richardson, Kuechly or Floyd maybe even Coples.

Just cause you won't a team to trade with you doesn't mean it will happen. And if those guys are good, we aren't deep enough to pas on a good player. Win now and stockpile the best talent

[NewEra]

I philosophy is good. I'd be all for it, but I'd rather select different players. Hill as our 1st pick is meh IMO.

I'd go;

1- Glenn, Martin or Adams.

2- Rueben Randle

2- Lavonte David

2- Josh Robinson

3- Dwayne Allen

3- Marvin Mcnutt or Juror Criner

4- Potter, datko, Marcus forston, cam Johnson, mike Brewster or for all you fan boys, Russell Wilson.

 

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Just cause you won't a team to trade with you doesn't mean it will happen. And if those guys are good, we aren't deep enough to pas on a good player. Win now and stockpile the best talent

 

I'm pretty sure he knows that. He's bored and wants to have some fun.

[Optometric Insight]

Your draft plan makes sense. With the way that Nix drafted players last year, there could be a possiblity that we hit on all of the picks; when we sign some UDFAs, we could hit jackpot with some of them also making this one of the best off seasons in history (maybe).

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I philosophy is good. I'd be all for it, but I'd rather select different players. Hill as our 1st pick is meh IMO.

I'd go;

1- Glenn, Martin or Adams.

2- Rueben Randle

2- Lavonte David

2- Josh Robinson

3- Dwayne Allen

3- Marvin Mcnutt or Juror Criner

4- Potter, datko, Marcus forston, cam Johnson, mike Brewster or for all you fan boys, Russell Wilson.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure he knows that. He's bored and wants to have some fun.

Like Glenn but is getting all kinds of mixed reviews where some think he is an allpro LT and others act like he is a goon and has to be guard, so no sure on him. Martin is falling like a rock and Martin is too inconsistent.

 

The other picks are good but I wouldn't pick another tackle if I picked one in the first would go with Russell in your scenario.

[Pete]

I think the strength of this draft is the second round and I concur- load up on as many second round picks as possible. We could address our 3 biggest needs with an additional second pick in round 2

[Nostradamus]

Many Teams like to acquire as many picks as possible which is good if a major overhaul is needed but in reality how many great players are there going to be in the latter rounds (yes I know we have hit on many late rounders but all that shows s how many misses we had early). How many times have you gone through draft boards and as you're going through the early rounds and thought man I want this guy and this guy and this guy and you realize you only have one pick per round.

 

What I would do is trade back in the first to get more 1st or second round picks and then trade up my 4+5 for another second and 6+7s (we always seem to get comp picks) for another 4rth. In General This would give us 6 total picks where the majority of great to probowl players are and where many first round talents slide back because teams are reaching for them in the first. I wouldn't trade up in the first because it costs too much unless there was a can't miss player. I now you need trade partners but NE seems to manage it every so we can too. Also I would trade fading stars for additional picks like we did with Evans. The rest of the roster would be filled with UDFAs who are just about as good as 5,6,7th rounders.

 

A team that was made up mostly 1,2,3,4 rounders would be incredibly hard to beat.

 

So this year we trade our first for one in the late teens early 20's and get a second, 2 4rths for a 2, 2 5ths for third and 6 & 2 7s for 4rth.

 

 

1. Stephen Hill Georgia Tech 6'5" 200 WR

2. Coby Fleener Stanford 6'6" 247 TE

2. Lavonte David Nebraska 6'1" 233 OLB

2. Josh Robinson Central Florida 5'10" 199 CB

3. Jared Crick Nebraska 6'4" 279 DE

3. Mitchell Schwartz California 6'5" 318 LT

4. B.J. Coleman Chattanooga 6'3" 220 QB

 

Very forward thinking. There is not a lot of high end top end talent outside of the first 6 or so. The strength of this draft is the depth in the first 4 rounds. These moves would allow the Bills to play to the strength of the draft, instead of having the draft play them. However, with that philosophy, I don't like the Hill and Schwartz picks. There is just too much depth in the receiver class to take a flyer on a workout warrior like Hill. Also, trading back into the early 20's should still allow the Bills a shot at one of the first round tackle talents, like Glenn or Reiff. Early 20's would be a good spot for one of them, or even Jonathan Martin if they are gone. I'd feel much better with one of those guys than Schwartz. Then, in the third or possibly second round, they could grab a receiver like Jeffrey, Sanu, Randle, or Quick, in that order of preference.

That would stockpile the Bills with good players, almost all whom I'd expect to be productive sooner rather than later, while still maximizing their chances of solidifying what I think is their weakest position right now, left tackle.

[Kelly the Dog]

No chance that you can trade two fourths for a second or trade two fifths for a third. It's not even close.