papazoid Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford 2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor 3. Matt Kalil, OT, USC 4. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina 5. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama 6. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M 7. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU 8. Melvin Ingram, OLB/DE, South Carolina 9. Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College 10. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa 11. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama 12. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame 13. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State 14. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU 15. David DeCastro, OG, Stanford http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d82821dd1/article/hot-100-plenty-of-draftstock-movement-as-pro-days-wrap-up?module=HP11_hot_topics
billnutinphoenix Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 It will either be Floyd, Blackmon, or Reiff at #10
Trader Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford 2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor 3. Matt Kalil, OT, USC 4. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina 5. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama 6. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M 7. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU 8. Melvin Ingram, OLB/DE, South Carolina 9. Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College 10. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa 11. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama 12. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame 13. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State 14. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU 15. David DeCastro, OG, Stanford http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d82821dd1/article/hot-100-plenty-of-draftstock-movement-as-pro-days-wrap-up?module=HP11_hot_topics Wow 7-13 all look very good to me. Brandt is not just another wag he ranks with Casserly and Mayock as an evaluator of talent. Interesting that he has Floyd ahead of Blackmon. If they do not get a Tackke at 10 they might have to trade up later to get a decent LT. I am thinking the Second or late first. I like the trade down option best but any player between 7 and 13 would be a heck of a consolation. Also keep in mind that there will be good wideouts in the second or third rounds but I do not believe that the LT prospects will be left.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Most noteworthy of mention is Coples at #4 and Floyd ahead of Blackmon.
rocwocka Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 My gut says its Luke Kuechly. We didn't try too hard to re-sign Bell, so that tells me that we're ready to go forward with Hairston manning the LT spot. I'm pretty sure that whoever gets picked at #10 (or wherever we end up picking) will be a necessary and welcome addition...
Toshiero Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford 2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor 3. Matt Kalil, OT, USC 4. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina 5. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama 6. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M 7. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU 8. Melvin Ingram, OLB/DE, South Carolina 9. Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College 10. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa 11. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama 12. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame 13. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State 14. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU 15. David DeCastro, OG, Stanford http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d82821dd1/article/hot-100-plenty-of-draftstock-movement-as-pro-days-wrap-up?module=HP11_hot_topics I always go with the godfathers rankings
Green Lightning Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) I can live with that line up save for Reiff. He's not a LT in the NFL. Edited April 9, 2012 by Green Lightning
CowgirlsFan Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Great list!! Brandt is well respected in NFL circles. Plus he has Cowboy ties in the early days!
Bob in STL Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 My gut says its Luke Kuechly. We didn't try too hard to re-sign Bell, so that tells me that we're ready to go forward with Hairston manning the LT spot. I'm pretty sure that whoever gets picked at #10 (or wherever we end up picking) will be a necessary and welcome addition... Could be LB or WR at #10. Buddy says there are tackles in this draft and he made it seem like this was beyond the first round too.
NewEra Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 1333935543[/url]' post='2432923']Most noteworthy of mention is Coples at #4 and Floyd ahead of Blackmon. No doubt! I disagree with Gil on both of those counts.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) No doubt! I disagree with Gil on both of those counts. Me too. But what can you say… Gil Freakin' Brandt… living legend. On the other hand he'd be the first to tell you that it's a hit and miss business. Edited April 9, 2012 by San Jose Bills Fan
turftoe Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Brandt is way overrated and rests on his laurels from days gone by. He didn't even have Brock Osweiler in his top 100 a month ago now he is #35. Two months ago he had Vontaze Burfict his #22 ranked player, Alshon Jeffery #9 and Zac Brown #10. Jeffery and Brown are now 2nd rounders and Burfict off the list. When you have dramatic changes in the list, to me, that is a big red flag that this guy doesn't really know the players in and out. It's not too hard to look at the million or so rankings out there and formulate your own list of names. He sits and watches prospects at the combine and talks to scouts and other personnel people to come up with his updated list. To me this says more about his ability to gather together opinions rather than truly being an idependent minded scout, so to speak. That being said, I still like to read his later lists because I think it represents a general consensus of a number of fairly good talent evaluators.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Brandt is way overrated and rests on his laurels from days gone by. He didn't even have Brock Osweiler in his top 100 a month ago now he is #35. Two months ago he had Vontaze Burfict his #22 ranked player, Alshon Jeffery #9 and Zac Brown #10. Jeffery and Brown are now 2nd rounders and Burfict off the list. When you have dramatic changes in the list, to me, that is a big red flag that this guy doesn't really know the players in and out. It's not too hard to look at the million or so rankings out there and formulate your own list of names. He sits and watches prospects at the combine and talks to scouts and other personnel people to come up with his updated list. To me this says more about his ability to gather together opinions rather than truly being an idependent minded scout, so to speak. That being said, I still like to read his later lists because I think it represents a general consensus of a number of fairly good talent evaluators. I just give the guy the respect that I think he's earned over his career. But I question how diligent he is about player evaluation these days.
Dragonborn10 Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I'm starting to hope they go LB or WR at #10 and Jonathan Martin falls to second round. That would be a coup. I just don't like Reiff. I know he played LT in the Big 10 but he looks like a RT/G. Martin has the feet to be an elite LT just needs to get stronger.
turftoe Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I just give the guy the respect that I think he's earned over his career. But I question how diligent he is about player evaluation these days. I think you're right there. He has had the ability to spot talent over the years and for that I give him his due. To me, however, it seems as if he really doesn't start looking at these guys until the senior bowl. His early lists are often way off.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford 2. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor 3. Matt Kalil, OT, USC 4. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina 5. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama 6. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M 7. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU 8. Melvin Ingram, OLB/DE, South Carolina 9. Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College 10. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa 11. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama 12. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame 13. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State 14. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU 15. David DeCastro, OG, Stanford http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d82821dd1/article/hot-100-plenty-of-draftstock-movement-as-pro-days-wrap-up?module=HP11_hot_topics Right were Tannehill belongs and he will fall to us when others get enamored with can't miss players. 6. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M (7) Had a great workout on in front of 32 teams and moved well, especially to his left, which is not common for right-handed quarterbacks. He completed 65 of 68 passes, including two drops. He had more drops last year during the regular season than any other quarterback.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 10. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa (8) Reiff has been well-coached in fundamentals. He has very good quickness and footwork and was an outstanding wrestler in high school, going 131-1. He will play in the NFL for a long time. Love those wrestlers
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 10. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa (8) Reiff has been well-coached in fundamentals. He has very good quickness and footwork and was an outstanding wrestler in high school, going 131-1. He will play in the NFL for a long time. Love those wrestlers Holding penalties.
1B4IDie Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Most noteworthy of mention is Coples at #4 and Floyd ahead of Blackmon. I'm not surprised though. I expect Floyd to shoot up the rankings. The closer we get to draft day, the less important the alcohol citations look compared to his NFL potential. I've been saying for Months and especially since the measuring at the combine that Floyd is a bigger stronger Blackmon. At this point I doubt Floyd will be there at #10 so all the teetotalers can be happy that the Jags or 'Fins have a sick receiving threat. In this case it appears that Floyd didn't shoot up the rankings but that Blackmon dropped. Which again I'm not surprised. I like Blackmon but I've said it before this just looks like Michael Crabtree all over again. Dominating College football player but when he plays at the next level against NFL sized players he isn't as dominating. Crabtree at Texas Tech would take games over. Blackmon at OSU would take games over. He'll have a good career but being under 6"1" hurts for a WR. Those jumpballs aren't as easy to grab, those blocks aren't as easy to make in the NFL. Michael Crabtree, Jeremy Maclin, and Justin Blackmon will all be very good NFL receivers just not game changers. Edited April 9, 2012 by Why So Serious?
Nanker Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Most noteworthy of mention is Coples at #4 and Floyd ahead of Blackmon. There's something about Blackmon that I don't like. I had the impression watching him at the combine that he was nervous - but something else showed through. Can't put my finger on it though. I do think Floyd could very well be the better NFL receiver. I'm not surprised though. I expect Floyd to shoot up the rankings. The closer we get to draft day, the less important the alcohol citations look compared to his NFL potential. I've been saying for Months and especially since the measuring at the combine that Floyd is a bigger stronger Blackmon. At this point I doubt Floyd will be there at #10 so all the teetotalers can be happy that the Jags or 'Fins have a sick receiving threat. In this case it appears that Floyd didn't shoot up the rankings but that Blackmon dropped. Which again I'm not surprised. I like Blackmon but I've said it before this just looks like Michael Crabtree all over again. Dominating College football player but when he plays at the next level against NFL sized players he isn't as dominating. Crabtree at Texas Tech would take games over. Blackmon at OSU would take games over. He'll have a good career but being under 6"1" hurts for a WR. Those jumpballs aren't as easy to grab, those blocks aren't as easy to make in the NFL. Michael Crabtree, Jeremy Maclin, and Justin Blackmon will all be very good NFL receivers just not game changers. ^ I This. Posted my trite response before reading the entire thread. That should teach me.
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