benderbender Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Isn't it convenient that the Gregg Williams audio was released the very day that Roger Goodell was to review the Saints suspensions for the bounty program? Almost like he needed to validate his reasons to the public why he won't reduce their punishments. Does he really need to?
papazoid Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_gregg_williams_speech_saints_49ers_bounty_040412
Zulu Cthulhu Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 I don't think Goodell was the one releasing this audio. It was captured by a third party making a documentary. I assume he or she released it. Maybe Goodell and the NFL pressured the owner of the audio to release it today, though. It wouldn't surprise me.
Phil Hansen Forever Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_gregg_williams_speech_saints_49ers_bounty_040412 youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fhnn9kbqQUA Unbelievable I hope they expel Greggy for life.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 To the OP: Care to post a link to what you're talking about? To the OP: Care to post a link to what you're talking about? Never mind. I'll view Papazoid's links.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Despicable. Never did like the guy and now my dislike has grown into something different.
papazoid Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Williams audio likely dooms Saints appeals: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/williams-audio-likely-dooms-saints-appeals/
aristocrat Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important -Dick Butkus
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important -Dick Butkus I think everyone would condone hard, violent, play. But how do you feel about a cheap shot to take someone's knee out? Greg(g) Williams was instructing his players to take out an ACL… to take out their ankles.
Captain Hindsight Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 I really don't mind a coach tell his guys to play hard or hit hard, but when you are telling guys to go for concussions, acl injuries ect.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Williams audio likely dooms Saints appeals: http://profootballta...saints-appeals/ Apparently the video was shot by a pretty well-known documentary film maker. His act of betraying the Saints for allowing him access is very curious on many levels.
Turbosrrgood Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_gregg_williams_speech_saints_49ers_bounty_040412 youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fhnn9kbqQUA I was a little skeptical about this whole thing, but damn, that's pretty bad. He'll never coach in the NFL again. I still think Payton's suspension is far too severe and should be reduced. I also don't think players should be punished for this beyond fines. They were simply doing what their boss told them to do. To refuse, is to lose a multi-million dollar a year job... Edited April 5, 2012 by Turbosrrgood
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 after hearing that i wonder was it edited some? I mean Williams sounds crazy, half sentences, repeats himself like Rainman, very strange. Think maybe he has been hit in the head a few times and wants others to feel his pain? Seriously, this goes against everything the NFL is very publicly trying to stop- 'Head Shots'. 'Cut off the head and the body dies'. Not to mention taking out guys knees. If Goodell doesn't throw Williams out of the league for ever, he is allowing a huge liability to be involved.
RealityCheck Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Isn't it convenient that the Gregg Williams audio was released the very day that Roger Goodell was to review the Saints suspensions for the bounty program? Almost like he needed to validate his reasons to the public why he won't reduce their punishments. Does he really need to? You are obviously at this point in time making an assumption on who released the audio. It does not matter who or when it gets released anyhow. It was released to the public and it is what it is. For many it will be quite educational, and this type of insight is long overdue.
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Apparently the video was shot by a pretty well-known documentary film maker. His act of betraying the Saints for allowing him access is very curious on many levels. It was shot by the same director who did Run, Ricky Run for ESPN's 30 for 30 series. He does a little bit of gonzo journalism where he sometimes makes himself the story as opposed to the subject he's shooting so I'm definitely not surprised he decided to release this.
papazoid Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 NFL not commenting on whether it was aware of Williams audio: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/nfl-not-commenting-on-whether-it-was-aware-of-williams-audio/
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 It was shot by the same director who did Run, Ricky Run for ESPN's 30 for 30 series. He does a little bit of gonzo journalism where he sometimes makes himself the story as opposed to the subject he's shooting so I'm definitely not surprised he decided to release this. Nevertheless it has to have some negative effect on his future access because it was an act of betrayal. For instance, if you were considering hiring Hank Haney as your swing coach, would you bring him over to your house and give him complete access to your life? Tiger Woods certainly wishes he hadn't. The same goes for this guy. In addition, what do you make of the timing of the video release?
Turbosrrgood Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 after hearing that i wonder was it edited some? I mean Williams sounds crazy, half sentences, repeats himself like Rainman, very strange. Think maybe he has been hit in the head a few times and wants others to feel his pain? Seriously, this goes against everything the NFL is very publicly trying to stop- 'Head Shots'. 'Cut off the head and the body dies'. Not to mention taking out guys knees. If Goodell doesn't throw Williams out of the league for ever, he is allowing a huge liability to be involved. It certainly sounded edited, but it was all from the same speech. I would guess it was edited to remove parts that weren't "interesting" in regards to the bounty issue. Edited for time, not content.
DC Tom Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 It certainly sounded edited, but it was all from the same speech. I would guess it was edited to remove parts that weren't "interesting" in regards to the bounty issue. Edited for time, not content. The article itself quotes the director as saying it was because he was shooting with two different cameras. Plausible, at least.
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