ajzepp Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 ...PLEASE remember to use the buddy system and take it seriously. I have never been diving, and I know very little about it, but I just got a text that my former manager is presumed dead after going missing in Mexico. She and her spouse were on some charter with a group of other American tourists, and apparently she was taken by a strong current. There are conflicting reports of what happened, but it was suggested to me by an experienced diver that there seemed to be a failure of the buddy system here, as she went unnoticed once she indicated she was returning to the surface. So please, fellow TBD brothers and sisters, be careful. Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 ...PLEASE remember to use the buddy system and take it seriously. I have never been diving, and I know very little about it, but I just got a text that my former manager is presumed dead after going missing in Mexico. She and her spouse were on some charter with a group of other American tourists, and apparently she was taken by a strong current. There are conflicting reports of what happened, but it was suggested to me by an experienced diver that there seemed to be a failure of the buddy system here, as she went unnoticed once she indicated she was returning to the surface. So please, fellow TBD brothers and sisters, be careful. Article Sorry to hear about your friend. Does this mean I need a buddy when I fill the tub up? If so, can I borrow Lana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 6, 2012 Author Share Posted April 6, 2012 Sorry to hear about your friend. Does this mean I need a buddy when I fill the tub up? If so, can I borrow Lana? Of course! I just hope you don't mind rumbling bubbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodBye Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Wow, dang sorry to hear this. Edited April 6, 2012 by LanaK6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 ...PLEASE remember to use the buddy system and take it seriously. I have never been diving, and I know very little about it, but I just got a text that my former manager is presumed dead after going missing in Mexico. She and her spouse were on some charter with a group of other American tourists, and apparently she was taken by a strong current. There are conflicting reports of what happened, but it was suggested to me by an experienced diver that there seemed to be a failure of the buddy system here, as she went unnoticed once she indicated she was returning to the surface. So please, fellow TBD brothers and sisters, be careful. Article If it was a failure of the buddy system, that's hardly an encouragement to use said system, is it? (Sounds more like an unfortunate accident to me...she got caught and swept away in the couple moments her husband took her eyes off her. But then, I don't dive, so what to I know.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 It doesn't matter. Her number was up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Ooooh.....too soon????? Nah...forgot where we were.... Sorry to hear about your friend. Does this mean I need a buddy when I fill the tub up? If so, can I borrow Lana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 6, 2012 Author Share Posted April 6, 2012 If it was a failure of the buddy system, that's hardly an encouragement to use said system, is it? (Sounds more like an unfortunate accident to me...she got caught and swept away in the couple moments her husband took her eyes off her. But then, I don't dive, so what to I know.) I found the report being discussed on a diving forum, and someone had found the equivalent of the police report from Mexico...it had some conflicting information/accounts, and someone had postulated that if her buddy had been paying attention, it's more likely this could have been avoided. The translation was choppy, but the diving master or whatever apparently saw that she was wanting to surface from her dive about 10 mins into it, but then failed to account for her from there. My work comp isn't cooperating, but will try to post the excerpt when I get home. I dunno what happend...just be careful dammit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 1333745142[/url]' post='2431956']Sorry to hear about your friend. Does this mean I need a buddy when I fill the tub up? If so, can I borrow Lana? Rub a dub dub, three men in a tub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I found the report being discussed on a diving forum, and someone had found the equivalent of the police report from Mexico...it had some conflicting information/accounts, and someone had postulated that if her buddy had been paying attention, it's more likely this could have been avoided. The translation was choppy, but the diving master or whatever apparently saw that she was wanting to surface from her dive about 10 mins into it, but then failed to account for her from there. My work comp isn't cooperating, but will try to post the excerpt when I get home. I dunno what happend...just be careful dammit There is definitely something missing from this story. Unless she was an incredibly weak swimmer, this isn't making any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I've been diving for thirty years and rarely if ever trust any gear other than my own. She may have had an equipment malfunction due to poorly maintained equipment. I had a regulator start drawing water one time and had to go to my second regulator. O rings go on occaision also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopsGuy Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 There is definitely something missing from this story. Unless she was an incredibly weak swimmer, this isn't making any sense. I agree. You have to be a strong swimmer just to get certified. I know I failed my first go around. I was out of shape and the guy (who was actually pretty cool about it) said, "Nope. I know it's hard, but you have to be able to do this or you're not diving." By the time I was certified, I was in shape - good shape. If you're not in shape, you'll blow through your tank way too fast and need to surface before the rest of your group. Maybe she was passed through w/o regard. Totally possible when you're certified by a dive shop that makes its money on selling you equipment. Currents? I supposed that's possible, but unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWVaBeach Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 ...PLEASE remember to use the buddy system and take it seriously. I have never been diving, and I know very little about it, but I just got a text that my former manager is presumed dead after going missing in Mexico. She and her spouse were on some charter with a group of other American tourists, and apparently she was taken by a strong current. There are conflicting reports of what happened, but it was suggested to me by an experienced diver that there seemed to be a failure of the buddy system here, as she went unnoticed once she indicated she was returning to the surface. So please, fellow TBD brothers and sisters, be careful. Article AJ as a certified diver I couldn't agree with you more. On a recent cruise my wife and I were snorkeling when she swam back to the beach while I was exploring. I was livid and let her know how angry I was when I got back to the beach. I'm sorry to hear about your co-worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 AJ as a certified diver I couldn't agree with you more. On a recent cruise my wife and I were snorkeling when she swam back to the beach while I was exploring. I was livid and let her know how angry I was when I got back to the beach. I'm sorry to hear about your co-worker. I always assumed that scuba diving was just a relaxed, peaceful experience in the water...looking at the fishies...but I guess the potential for danger is much more serious than I ever gave it credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopsGuy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Apparently you didn't get certified in the Caribbean; they'll give you a 20 minute lesson, and send you out. By the way, one of the worst stories I've heard was of a couple on a honeymoon. The girl was on the beach; the guy was out diving. He got his foot caught in something and never came up. Pretty sad. I've heard those stories. Diving is serious business. You and your buddy need to touch each other at least every 30 seconds or so. That's how I was taught. Our guy said, "Hey, if you're not pointing out something cool in that interval, you're diving in a boring place anyway." Also, I have an irrational fear of dying poorly. That's me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelmonSmith6378 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 ...PLEASE remember to use the buddy system and take it seriously. I have never been diving, and I know very little about it, but I just got a text that my former manager is presumed dead after going missing in Mexico. She and her spouse were on some charter with a group of other American tourists, and apparently she was taken by a strong current. There are conflicting reports of what happened, but it was suggested to me by an experienced diver that there seemed to be a failure of the buddy system here, as she went unnoticed once she indicated she was returning to the surface. So please, fellow TBD brothers and sisters, be careful. Article Wow. That's pretty shocking. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I'm a casual diver and have dived in that area. Something does not add up with that story. A dive master would have been more aggressive with assisting Cassin if she wanted to end her dive. Also, she could have inflated her buoyancy compensator to deal with a downward current. Although that could be risky in rising to fast. But turning to signal the divemaster and turning back nobody goes that far away that fast. if she rose to the surface you can inflate your jacket and float for days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) I'm a casual diver and have dived in that area. Something does not add up with that story. A dive master would have been more aggressive with assisting Cassin if she wanted to end her dive. Also, she could have inflated her buoyancy compensator to deal with a downward current. Although that could be risky in rising to fast. But turning to signal the divemaster and turning back nobody goes that far away that fast. if she rose to the surface you can inflate your jacket and float for days. I think that's why the folks on the diving message board I saw were having issues with this story, as well...wish I could find that stupid link... I don't know how legit this is, but it appears to have two accounts of other divers, one who was in the same group and one who was in the same area: http://www.divetalking.com/?p=6047 Edited April 9, 2012 by ajzepp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I'm a casual diver and have dived in that area. Something does not add up with that story. A dive master would have been more aggressive with assisting Cassin if she wanted to end her dive. Also, she could have inflated her buoyancy compensator to deal with a downward current. Although that could be risky in rising to fast. But turning to signal the divemaster and turning back nobody goes that far away that fast. if she rose to the surface you can inflate your jacket and float for days. i'm not so sure. i did one of the 20 minute training dives in jamaica. spent that time in a pool learning how to put the equipment on and the next thing was at the bottom of the sea 30 feet down. i quickly realized that i didn't know what i was doing and got anxious. started stacking breaths (i don't know if thats what divers call it)- taking more air in than out so there wasn't enough volume in my lungs to take full breaths. i pointed to the dive master to go up but he ignored me (guess he didn't want to spoil the dive for the other divers). eventually i calmed down and was ok but will never dive again. there's a reason why life insurance excludes diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think that's why the folks on the diving message board I saw were having issues with this story, as well...wish I could find that stupid link... I don't know how legit this is, but it appears to have two accounts of other divers, one who was in the same group and one who was in the same area: http://www.divetalking.com/?p=6047 They must have been diving without buoyancy compensators, because if you inflate your jacket, your rising to the surface like a rocket. No mention of the depth they were at as well. Not to mention you can drop your weight belt if you feel your going down to far to fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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