All this talk about Floyd being #2 to Stevie.

[HornellBillsFan]

If the Bills end up taking Michael Floyd it won't be all that long before we are talking about Stevie being a nice #2 to compliment Floyd. Floyd is more talented by a pretty good margiin and an all around physical beast at the WR spot. If the Bills take him everyone will be very pleased after watching him play a few games in a Bills uniform. And the cold won't be a problem either, kid grew up in freakin' Minnesota.

[Captain Hindsight]

If the Bills end up taking Michael Floyd it won't be all that long before we are talking about Stevie being a nice #2 to compliment Floyd. Floyd is more talented by a pretty good margiin and an all around physical beast at the WR spot. If the Bills take him everyone will be very pleased after watching him play a few games in a Bills uniform. And the cold won't be a problem either, kid grew up in freakin' Minnesota.

Whatever helps the team win, I'm in favor of

[rafter]

If the Bills end up taking Michael Floyd it won't be all that long before we are talking about Stevie being a nice #2 to compliment Floyd. Floyd is more talented by a pretty good margiin and an all around physical beast at the WR spot. If the Bills take him everyone will be very pleased after watching him play a few games in a Bills uniform. And the cold won't be a problem either, kid grew up in freakin' Minnesota.

 

He was a more talented COLLEGE player. Until hes played in the NFL hes nowhere near Stevie's level. Some players adjust and others falter with the transition to the NFL.

[smuvtalker]

He was a more talented COLLEGE player. Until hes played in the NFL hes nowhere near Stevie's level. Some players adjust and others falter with the transition to the NFL.

 

This. I don't care how good you are in college, it doesn't mean diddly until you earn your stripes in the NFL.

[sllib olaffub]

I agree with some who say number 1, number 2, etc., doesn't mean much. Stevie fulfills a role, and Floyd would, too. I am in favor of the type of system where the recievers are all capable of getting deep, of going up and getting a jump ball, and of cross routes. That way the defense cannot take away one guy and ruin a gameplan.

 

The Bills have been far too reliant on one reciever for a long, long time now. It hasn't been since Molds and Price that we've had a multie threat WR corps. And that wasn't even all that even. Stevie can do many things on the field, and furthermore, he can beat single coverage, even by the best - that is valuable. Double coverage gives him trouble, as it does most recievers. So, if we can get another reciever to draw coverage, or split coverage, that will allow for them to each get honest shots. Still, though, we want a third reciever to really make defenses truly blind - and if we add Floyd, I think that guy would be Easley. If he stays healthy.

 

Floyd, and a capable LT in the early rounds would really make this offense dangerous. We've got the two running backs... This will be a fun year.

[1B4IDie]

First the Bills have to draft him. Then he has to demonstrate he can play well in OTAs and Pre Season then he has to play well in the NFL then you can debate who is #1 and who is #2.

 

If Miami takes Floyd before the Bills do, then you will all be hoping he gets too crazy in the Miami night life and is a bust.

 

So lets wait until May.

 

Not to mention "#1" and "#2" is more fan speak then NFL speak.

Edited March 24, 2012 by Why So Serious?

[KOKBILLS]

He was a more talented COLLEGE player. Until hes played in the NFL hes nowhere near Stevie's level. Some players adjust and others falter with the transition to the NFL.

 

Exactly...Stevie's Game is awful good at the NFL level now...Wonder how many yards Floyd would have vs. Revis?

 

Nothing against Floyd...He'll be a different style of NFL WR than Stevie is anyway...But it's going to take a while before Floyd is in Stevie's league...Stevie has figured out how to get open consistently...And that is REAL hard in the NFL...

[1B4IDie]

I agree with some who say number 1, number 2, etc., doesn't mean much. Stevie fulfills a role, and Floyd would, too. I am in favor of the type of system where the recievers are all capable of getting deep, of going up and getting a jump ball, and of cross routes. That way the defense cannot take away one guy and ruin a gameplan.

 

The Bills have been far too reliant on one reciever for a long, long time now. It hasn't been since Molds and Price that we've had a multie threat WR corps. And that wasn't even all that even. Stevie can do many things on the field, and furthermore, he can beat single coverage, even by the best - that is valuable. Double coverage gives him trouble, as it does most recievers. So, if we can get another reciever to draw coverage, or split coverage, that will allow for them to each get honest shots. Still, though, we want a third reciever to really make defenses truly blind - and if we add Floyd, I think that guy would be Easley. If he stays healthy.

 

Floyd, and a capable LT in the early rounds would really make this offense dangerous. We've got the two running backs... This will be a fun year.

 

EASLEY is just as much a ghost as Floyd. They have both played the same amount of NFL regular season games.

 

The Bills have two threats between the hash marks that defenses have to respect today. CHANDLER and Nelson.

 

Floyd would give the Bills a possible second outside threat plus FJax and Slipper coming out of the backfield, it makes for some seriously sick skilled players on oftener.

 

You got a strong core at interior offends line, G to G. The only weak spots are LT and people can debate Fitz all they want.

[Webster Guy]

I agree that the #1 or #2 receiver thing is so outdated and irrelevant in a spread offense.

 

I also think our starting four WR's after the dust settles from camp will be Stevie, Nelson, Jones and Hagan (maybe Easley). Throw in Chandler at TE and they give you QB chemistry, size, blocking and toughness. And they get open.

 

We don't need to burn our 1st round pick on a head case WR, we need to keep focusing on fixing what is broken. OT, linebacker depth, another corner etc.

 

We need can't-miss picks. Talent and character. Floyd is too risky at a position we're already good at. Buddy is going to just go to his board after the Miami pick and I don't think Floyd will be ranked high enough for us to take him there. My guess is OT, LB, corner, WR in the first four.

[truth on hold]

Honestly what does #1 or #2 really mean? Giants had nicks,manningham and Cruz, and all were key guys. It's not like every play one guy had a lock on being the first read.

 

When you have quality WRs the pecking order becomes inconsequential.

 

Yes I'd like Floyd, btw

Edited March 24, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack

[TPS]

Let's not sell Donald Jones short. He didn't do much initially thrust into the #2 role, but started coming into his own before he went down the second time. Fitz also has confidence in him.

 

Not saying the Bills couldn't use at least one more highly talented WR, but there are some decent options currently on the roster. Given last season's injuries at the position, the more the merrier...

[Rubes]

I'm not particularly high on Jones, but I watched the replay of the Pats* comeback game and Jones had an outstanding day. He was consistently open, caught a bunch of balls, and was clearly open on deep routes a number of times. Gailey specifically mentioned after the game how he was a good deep threat. I wonder if he'll be better this year with some experience under his belt.

[HornellBillsFan]

I agree that the #1 or #2 receiver thing is so outdated and irrelevant in a spread offense.

 

I also think our starting four WR's after the dust settles from camp will be Stevie, Nelson, Jones and Hagan (maybe Easley). Throw in Chandler at TE and they give you QB chemistry, size, blocking and toughness. And they get open.

 

We don't need to burn our 1st round pick on a head case WR, we need to keep focusing on fixing what is broken. OT, linebacker depth, another corner etc.

 

We need can't-miss picks. Talent and character. Floyd is too risky at a position we're already good at. Buddy is going to just go to his board after the Miami pick and I don't think Floyd will be ranked high enough for us to take him there. My guess is OT, LB, corner, WR in the first four.

 

 

And how is Michael Floyd a "headcase"? Just feel like throwing that out there for the fun of it? Yep, he got a DUI. And yes he was cited for underage drinking at two college parties prior to that. Regular axe murderer, huh?

[3rdand12]

I'm not particularly high on Jones, but I watched the replay of the Pats* comeback game and Jones had an outstanding day. He was consistently open, caught a bunch of balls, and was clearly open on deep routes a number of times. Gailey specifically mentioned after the game how he was a good deep threat. I wonder if he'll be better this year with some experience under his belt.

He'd better be better!

[LynchMob23]

I'm not particularly high on Jones, but I watched the replay of the Pats* comeback game and Jones had an outstanding day. He was consistently open, caught a bunch of balls, and was clearly open on deep routes a number of times. Gailey specifically mentioned after the game how he was a good deep threat. I wonder if he'll be better this year with some experience under his belt.

And he was another guy that fell into the in / out of being hurt in the middle/end of the year. A lot of these guys got great in game experience that can only help them going forward.

 

Another game to see him do well in is the Oakland game the week before - that fourth down catch was insanely hard and under-appreciated.

[DefenseWinzChampionshipz]

If the Bills end up taking Michael Floyd it won't be all that long before we are talking about Stevie being a nice #2 to compliment Floyd. Floyd is more talented by a pretty good margiin and an all around physical beast at the WR spot. If the Bills take him everyone will be very pleased after watching him play a few games in a Bills uniform. And the cold won't be a problem either, kid grew up in freakin' Minnesota.

 

I've been a front runner in the let's get Floyd in the draft marathon if Ingram is gone or if we can't trade down. But even that being said, the kid is a rookie. He will be humbled in to the #2 WR position until he proves he's a #1.

 

First the Bills have to draft him. Then he has to demonstrate he can play well in OTAs and Pre Season then he has to play well in the NFL then you can debate who is #1 and who is #2.

 

If Miami takes Floyd before the Bills do, then you will all be hoping he gets too crazy in the Miami night life and is a bust.

 

So lets wait until May.

 

Not to mention "#1" and "#2" is more fan speak then NFL speak.

 

If Miami gets him you're right. We wouldn't want to succeed as much. But just as long as the Jets don't get him I'm fine.

[deep2evans]

agree with the OP. Floyd would change the entire dynamic of our offense.

[offyourocker]

If the Bills end up taking Michael Floyd it won't be all that long before we are talking about Stevie being a nice #2 to compliment Floyd. Floyd is more talented by a pretty good margiin and an all around physical beast at the WR spot. If the Bills take him everyone will be very pleased after watching him play a few games in a Bills uniform. And the cold won't be a problem either, kid grew up in freakin' Minnesota.

 

 

Should remember that WR take about 3 years to really develop if they do. See Eric Molds.

[robkmil]

And how is Michael Floyd a "headcase"? Just feel like throwing that out there for the fun of it? Yep, he got a DUI. And yes he was cited for underage drinking at two college parties prior to that. Regular axe murderer, huh?

 

I'm a head case too then, I drank at many college parties while underage

 

I've been a front runner in the let's get Floyd in the draft marathon if Ingram is gone or if we can't trade down. But even that being said, the kid is a rookie. He will be humbled in to the #2 WR position until he proves he's a #1.

 

 

 

If Miami gets him you're right. We wouldn't want to succeed as much. But just as long as the Jets don't get him I'm fine.

 

I really hop Miami wastes a top pick on WR they have so many needs that WR does not make them any better of a team.

[aristocrat]

I would love Floyd on this team. He was double teamed all year but still has that ability to just go up and get the ball. He put up a 1000 yards this year despite having terrible qb play.