mob16151 Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2012_NFL_Draft_News.html .Stanford OT Jonathan Martin has a private visit scheduled with the Bills
Mr. T Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2012_NFL_Draft_News.html .Stanford OT Jonathan Martin has a private visit scheduled with the Bills As long as they are going to draft in 2nd or 3rd round. He could be one of those players that slip far past where they are projected.
playman Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 otoh, big guys tend to go off the board early and often. sam baker for example
Mr. T Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 otoh, big guys tend to go off the board early and often. sam baker for example After his very disappointing pro day I would not be surprised at all if he slips to a late 1st rd and quite possibly 2nd rd pick. Bills could either trade back get him late rd 1 or have him slip to them in rd 2. I'd be more for taking him rd 2 if still available.
jjmac Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 After his very disappointing pro day I would not be surprised at all if he slips to a late 1st rd and quite possibly 2nd rd pick. Bills could either trade back get him late rd 1 or have him slip to them in rd 2. I'd be more for taking him rd 2 if still available. We do not need to be trading back up into any round, and I don't think we will. Buddy said we needed all 9 of our picks.
MattM Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 I'd love to see us trade back about 10 spots, pick up an extra 2, grab Martin or Adams in the 1st, and go OLB and WR with the two 2's and BPA thereafter (which hopefully includes a CB and TE somewhere in Rds 3-5).....
White Linen Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 Weird thread, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Martin in the 2nd or 3rd, one guy saying he doesn't want to trade up and that wasn't mentioned.
Fan in Chicago Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 We do not need to be trading back up into any round, and I don't think we will. Buddy said we needed all 9 of our picks. I don't think Buddy said he needed 9 players from those picks. I would love it if an OT is picked in the earlier rounds.
frogger Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 I called him Winston justice in another post, I stand by it. Late first, early 2nd. No one has suggested trading back into the first. Cleveland may have interest in excepting our first next year and a 3rd this yr. Floyd and Glenn/Martin in the first David in the 2nd would be a good draft.
KOKBILLS Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 I don't see Martin to The Bills unless he lasts till the 2nd Round...He's a Project...He's definitely not ready to start at LT in the NFL...I think he will be in time...But not yet...Thus, not at #10...
The Senator Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 The Bills have 30 scheduled visits at OBD with potential draftees, plus as many prospects from the Buffalo area as they care to entertain (since local prospects from a team's own metro-area do not count against each team's limit of 30 draft-eligible prospects). Clearly, the Bills have only 9 draft picks - not 30 - so I wouldn't read too much into each and every news item about a draft-eligible prospect being invited for a visit to OBD. These visits just as often serve to eliminate certain prospects from the Bills draft board (or confirm whether a lower round prospect should be 'moved-up' on the Bills' draft board - or a higher round prospect 'moved-down') just as often as they serve to enhance the draft chances of those 'under-the-radar' picks that pleasantly surprise us every year. I have no historical data to base this on - just a hunch - but I'll guess that just as many players (and maybe even more) that have not been invited to visit OBD are drafted by Buffalo as players who are invited for a visit. (I'll also go a step further and state unequivocally that the Bills will NOT be drafting Martin.)
mob16151 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Posted March 24, 2012 The Bills have 30 scheduled visits at OBD with potential draftees, plus as many prospects from the Buffalo area as they care to entertain (since local prospects from a team's own metro-area do not count against each team's limit of 30 draft-eligible prospects). Clearly, the Bills have only 9 draft picks - not 30 - so I wouldn't read too much into each and every news item about a draft-eligible prospect being invited for a visit to OBD. These visits just as often serve to eliminate certain prospects from the Bills draft board (or confirm whether a lower round prospect should be 'moved-up' on the Bills' draft board - or a higher round prospect 'moved-down') just as often as they serve to enhance the draft chances of those 'under-the-radar' picks that pleasantly surprise us every year. I have no historical data to base this on - just a hunch - but I'll guess that just as many players (and maybe even more) that have not been invited to visit OBD are drafted by Buffalo as players who are invited for a visit. (I'll also go a step further and state unequivocally that the Bills will NOT be drafting Martin.) I don't think the Bills will draft Martin either, but it is Bills related, and it does show that Martin is on the Bills radar leading up to the draft.
NoSaint Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 I don't think the Bills will draft Martin either, but it is Bills related, and it does show that Martin is on the Bills radar leading up to the draft. I mean, wouldnt the noteworthy thing be that he isnt?
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) The Bills have 30 scheduled visits at OBD with potential draftees, plus as many prospects from the Buffalo area as they care to entertain (since local prospects from a team's own metro-area do not count against each team's limit of 30 draft-eligible prospects). Clearly, the Bills have only 9 draft picks - not 30 - so I wouldn't read too much into each and every news item about a draft-eligible prospect being invited for a visit to OBD. These visits just as often serve to eliminate certain prospects from the Bills draft board (or confirm whether a lower round prospect should be 'moved-up' on the Bills' draft board - or a higher round prospect 'moved-down') just as often as they serve to enhance the draft chances of those 'under-the-radar' picks that pleasantly surprise us every year. I have no historical data to base this on - just a hunch - but I'll guess that just as many players (and maybe even more) that have not been invited to visit OBD are drafted by Buffalo as players who are invited for a visit. (I'll also go a step further and state unequivocally that the Bills will NOT be drafting Martin.) Interesting thing to research (the visits to drafted ratio I mean), I'll see if I can dig up any info. One thing I do know though is that under the Nix regime both of our first rounders (Spiller and Dareus) both came in for a predraft visit. That being said, I would say its very likely one of these visitors end up being our first round pick. I truly dont understand the rabid hatred for Martin here, but I'm going to move on. Edited March 24, 2012 by BillsGuyBackInMalta
JPS Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 People blogging about prospects who have never seen them play and have NO idea what they're talking about.
mob16151 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Posted March 24, 2012 People blogging about prospects who have never seen them play and have NO idea what they're talking about. Ummmm what?
Kelly the Dog Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 Interesting thing to research (the visits to drafted ratio I mean), I'll see if I can dig up any info. One thing I do know though is that under the Nix regime both of our first rounders (Spiller and Dareus) both came in for a predraft visit. That being said, I would say its very likely one of these visitors end up being our first round pick. I truly dont understand the rabid hatred for Martin here, but I'm going to move on. The timeline also appears to be that after speaking with him and watching the pro day workout, including the bench press and 40, they invited Martin in for a visit. It couldn't have turned them off that much (it also doesn't mean they like him at 10 either).
NoSaint Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 The timeline also appears to be that after speaking with him and watching the pro day workout, including the bench press and 40, they invited Martin in for a visit. It couldn't have turned them off that much (it also doesn't mean they like him at 10 either). Could be a ploy to distract from who they really want, could be a "just in case he slides," could be a "wow let's get this guy up close before we push him down/off the board, could be they have a handful of guys they are into at Stanford and they chose him as the one to talk to to get a feel for the program or someone specific without tipping their hand Could be they really like him too, of course
jjmac Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 I don't think Buddy said he needed 9 players from those picks. I would love it if an OT is picked in the earlier rounds. As would I, but he siad the we were happy to have 9 picks and would like to have one more. I'm not feeling a trade up.
JPS Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 Ummmm what? I just get tired of guys judging like they know. YouTube plus CBS Sportsline doesn't qualify one to say how workout numbers will affect a propect's draft position. Sorry. It is getting thick around here and it's making me surly.
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