Nanker Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 Oh good. So there won't be any posts by the loonies until MSComcastNBC updates their website overnight with the proper talking points.
dayman Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Hannity gets first interview with Zimmerman tonite at 21:00 on the network many of you love to hate http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/hannity-gets-first-interview-with-george-zimmerman_b138015 Megyn Kelly on O'Reilly saying it hurt. Said some inconsistencies there than what he said previously (human nature to have those the more you talk) and God's plan not good. Shame on attorney although if George was hell bent on speaking then what can you do...
WorldTraveller Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Gods plan huh What sort of !@#$ing plan was that? Dude should of never followed him, unfortunately the DA is an over zealous dumbass, and he will be found innocent of second degree murder. She should of pressed for manslaughter.
DC Tom Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Megyn Kelly on O'Reilly saying it hurt. Said some inconsistencies there than what he said previously (human nature to have those the more you talk) and God's plan not good. Shame on attorney although if George was hell bent on speaking then what can you do... I still don't claim to know what happened - too few facts, those clouded by the usual asinine media frenzy. But I'm becoming more convinced with time that Zimmerman ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
dayman Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 I still don't claim to know what happened - too few facts, those clouded by the usual asinine media frenzy. But I'm becoming more convinced with time that Zimmerman ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer. He's behaving like a man who wants to clear his name. He needs to behave like a man who wants to avoid a murder conviction. Then he can clear his name. I don't know if he's guilty but he's cracking and he'll end up guilty if he doesn't go into the defendant shell he should be in the entire trial.
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 He's behaving like a man who wants to clear his name. He needs to behave like a man who wants to avoid a murder conviction. Then he can clear his name. I don't know if he's guilty but he's cracking and he'll end up guilty if he doesn't go into the defendant shell he should be in the entire trial. Stop and think. He's pilloried in the MSM and with the Faux Black Ministers. His life is in danger no matter what. He'll be exonerated. With that said, he'll be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. His interview last night was a self protection type of thing. You may have the legal part down, but you're not facing the reality that he is trying to navigate.
dayman Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Stop and think. He's pilloried in the MSM and with the Faux Black Ministers. His life is in danger no matter what. He'll be exonerated. With that said, he'll be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. His interview last night was a self protection type of thing. You may have the legal part down, but you're not facing the reality that he is trying to navigate. As his attorney I wouldn't be insensitive to that. But I would attempt to convince him to fight one battle at a time. Right now there's a handful of people he needs to convince within a framework of rules designed to protect him. If he can win that, he wins his freedom. Then he can go on defending himself in the eyes of millions w/ no rules. One battle at a time I would try to convince him. Merging the mob w/ no rules with the jury w/ rules isn't going to help him in my eyes I would attempt to reason with him. Edited July 20, 2012 by TheNewBills
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 As his attorney I wouldn't be insensitive to that. But I would attempt to convince him to fight one battle at a time. Right now there's a handful of people he needs to convince within a framework of rules designed to protect him. If he can win that, he wins his freedom. Then he can go on defending himself in the eyes of millions w/ no rules. One battle at a time I would try to convince him. Merging the mob w/ no rules with the jury w/ rules isn't going to help him in my eyes I would attempt to reason with him. Schit, there's a bounty out on him that even the government won't show any balls about. He's in preservation mode. The case against him appears so wrong that he's going to be acquited no matter what. His problem is what comes next?
dayman Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Schit, there's a bounty out on him that even the government won't show any balls about. He's in preservation mode. The case against him appears so wrong that he's going to be acquited no matter what. His problem is what comes next? Hey whoever is representing him ... he's in way better hand than me there's no doubt and I'm sure he's tried to talk to him. And ultimately he works for him. But it's his job to manage his defense, and to some degree you can't do that if you can't manage George. Everything said comes in. If everything is going good then don't let anything else in. And don't assume your murder trial is air tight until the verdict comes back. Got to try (I'm sure is attorney did) to manage him throughout the process and keep in him focused not on some bounty but on his trial. Jury first. America second. The bounty is crazy George the bounty isn't coming off b/c of a Hannity interview George. Think George. Listen to your lawyer George. ETc... Gods plan huh What sort of !@#$ing plan was that? Dude should of never followed him, unfortunately the DA is an over zealous dumbass, and he will be found innocent of second degree murder. She should of pressed for manslaughter. I haven't seen the charging document but there's always lesser included crimes. Dude is on trial for manslaughter.
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Hey whoever is representing him ... he's in way better hand than me there's no doubt and I'm sure he's tried to talk to him. And ultimately he works for him. But it's his job to manage his defense, and to some degree you can't do that if you can't manage George. Everything said comes in. If everything is going good then don't let anything else in. And don't assume your murder trial is air tight until the verdict comes back. Got to try (I'm sure is attorney did) to manage him throughout the process and keep in him focused not on some bounty but on his trial. Jury first. America second. The bounty is crazy George the bounty isn't coming off b/c of a Hannity interview George. Think George. Listen to your lawyer George. ETc... Well, it's certainly a strange case in that all the info is coming out ahead of the trial. It's like both the prosecution and defense wants to poison the jury pool. I just hope that after the verdict, it doesn't become Rodney King all over.
dayman Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Well, it's certainly a strange case in that all the info is coming out ahead of the trial. It's like both the prosecution and defense wants to poison the jury pool. I just hope that after the verdict, it doesn't become Rodney King all over. Energize the base! Team Obama! lol Let's do this Obama!
boyst Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 Well, it's certainly a strange case in that all the info is coming out ahead of the trial. It's like both the prosecution and defense wants to poison the jury pool. I just hope that after the verdict, it doesn't become Rodney King all over. Why does it have to be Rodney King? The situation was entirely different. King was breaking the law, attacked by officers of the peace, and it was video taped with clear evidence showing the attack. Trayvon Martin died without witnesses, after breaking no laws before the physical altercation began with a civilian. Maybe I am in rose colored glasses but if anything this is going to change the country for the better reminding us that there are still racists out there and hopefully we can change that with intollerance of those that judge by race. There is a strong push to support the LGBT community right now, I hope we can embrace all people without singling anyone out.
dayman Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 Why does it have to be Rodney King? The situation was entirely different. King was breaking the law, attacked by officers of the peace, and it was video taped with clear evidence showing the attack. Trayvon Martin died without witnesses, after breaking no laws before the physical altercation began with a civilian. Maybe I am in rose colored glasses but if anything this is going to change the country for the better reminding us that there are still racists out there and hopefully we can change that with intollerance of those that judge by race. There is a strong push to support the LGBT community right now, I hope we can embrace all people without singling anyone out. Jboys I here they stab people for that kind of talk in NC I would be careful.
Park Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 I still don't claim to know what happened - too few facts, those clouded by the usual asinine media frenzy. But I'm becoming more convinced with time that Zimmerman ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer. It's taken you this long to figure out that dupty dog who shot an unarmed kid isn't very bright? The neighborhood watch gig didn't give it away to you? Maybe if he had dressed as the fist of justice you might have got an idea he wasn't too bright early on.
Nanker Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 It's taken you this long to figure out that dupty dog who shot an unarmed kid isn't very bright? The neighborhood watch gig didn't give it away to you? Maybe if he had dressed as the fist of justice you might have got an idea he wasn't too bright early on. what an azz.
IDBillzFan Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 It's taken you this long to figure out that dupty dog who shot an unarmed kid isn't very bright? The neighborhood watch gig didn't give it away to you? Maybe if he had dressed as the fist of justice you might have got an idea he wasn't too bright early on. I had no idea that people who volunteer for community watch are stupid people. Thanks for that insight.
PushthePile Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 Why does it have to be Rodney King? The situation was entirely different. King was breaking the law, attacked by officers of the peace, and it was video taped with clear evidence showing the attack. Trayvon Martin died without witnesses, after breaking no laws before the physical altercation began with a civilian. Maybe I am in rose colored glasses but if anything this is going to change the country for the better reminding us that there are still racists out there and hopefully we can change that with intollerance of those that judge by race. There is a strong push to support the LGBT community right now, I hope we can embrace all people without singling anyone out. No witnesses you say? How do you know that no laws were broken? How do you know that "physical altercation with a civilian" wasnt a life threatening assault on a civilian? On the otherhand, we don't know if Zimmerman initiated the physical contact. We don't know schit. Still, its sad watching people expose their agendas in such a stupid manner. Race baiting and racists from all walks of life emerge and prove that we dont value eachother.
boyst Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 Why does it have to be Rodney King? The situation was entirely different. King was breaking the law, attacked by officers of the peace, and it was video taped with clear evidence showing the attack. Trayvon Martin died without witnesses, after breaking no laws before the physical altercation began with a civilian. Maybe I am in rose colored glasses but if anything this is going to change the country for the better reminding us that there are still racists out there and hopefully we can change that with intollerance of those that judge by race. There is a strong push to support the LGBT community right now, I hope we can embrace all people without singling anyone out. No witnesses you say? How do you know that no laws were broken? How do you know that "physical altercation with a civilian" wasnt a life threatening assault on a civilian? On the otherhand, we don't know if Zimmerman initiated the physical contact. We don't know schit. Still, its sad watching people expose their agendas in such a stupid manner. Race baiting and racists from all walks of life emerge and prove that we dont value eachother. Has there been a witness for the incident that saw the events transfold? No, and if there were witnesses that saw the event unfold we would know of it even if we did not know all of what they saw. Zimmerman did not chase Martin down a street after committing a crime. Even if he was looking in car windows and causing "riffraff" it was no illegal. Isn't a life threatening assault on a civilian considered a physical altercation? The exact verbage could vary - but I did not imply nor did I state that one attacked another - merely that there was an altercation. Again, maybe I have rose colored glasses but I do not just see the problem with racism. I see it as judgements upon each other on all levels. From race, class, education, sex, sexual orientation, etc - we cast judgements. It is unfortunate but it is reality and we will always be this way. Being judgemental, though, is a whole lot different then being racist or intolerant. As a society we are no different then anyone else - flawed at best, but too often we use our rights to propogate the agendas of intolerence.
PushthePile Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Has there been a witness for the incident that saw the events transfold? No, and if there were witnesses that saw the event unfold we would know of it even if we did not know all of what they saw. Zimmerman did not chase Martin down a street after committing a crime. Even if he was looking in car windows and causing "riffraff" it was no illegal. Isn't a life threatening assault on a civilian considered a physical altercation? The exact verbage could vary - but I did not imply nor did I state that one attacked another - merely that there was an altercation. Again, maybe I have rose colored glasses but I do not just see the problem with racism. I see it as judgements upon each other on all levels. From race, class, education, sex, sexual orientation, etc - we cast judgements. It is unfortunate but it is reality and we will always be this way. Being judgemental, though, is a whole lot different then being racist or intolerant. As a society we are no different then anyone else - flawed at best, but too often we use our rights to propogate the agendas of intolerence. Whether or not Martin committed a crime prior to the altercation has nothing to do with anything. The last paragraph is certainly true for some of us. Hatred spreads like a wildfire and various groups love to light those fires every chance they get. Before you know it, normal tolerant people become divided in their thoughts. The Us v.s. Them mentality is an epidemic. Edited July 22, 2012 by PushthePile
boyst Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Whether or not Martin committed a crime prior to the altercation has nothing to do with anything. The last paragraph is certainly true for some of us. Hatred spreads like a wildfire and various groups love to light those fires every chance they get. Before you know it, normal tolerant people become divided in their thoughts. The Us v.s. Them mentality is an epidemic. We were comparing King vs Martin. King was fleeing the scene among other things on his high speed chase from law enforcement.
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