Max997 Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Reiff is at best a RT but is prob going to end up playing guard and you rarely see a guard drafted in the top ten The pick is Martin who IMO starts from day one
Brainiac72 Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 well Hairston was projected even more as a RT than Reiff is... and the Bills still stuck him there. i think the days may be over of only saying a LT is worthy of a top 15 pick, not with OG's now getting like 9.5 million. but we ONLY need a LT, so if there's any doubt, gotta go with the guy who can definitly play there. (and hopefully Hairston can replace Pears).
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) I would love for us to trade down and get either Mike Adams or Cordy Glenn. I actually prefer Cordy Glenn more. Other notables are - Tom Compton - Projected to go in the 4th round Lamar Holmes - Projected to go in rounds 5-6 Jeff Allen - Projected to go in rounds 3-4 If we trade down and still stay ahead of the Jets on the board I would suggest we go with WR only if Floyd is still there. If not then your guess is as good as mine. I'm afraid that Kalil is the only tackle I would waste a 1st rounder on which makes me look at other positions. I know alot of you guys love Jonathan Martin but I don't. I wouldn't waste the 10th pick on him. But I'm not Buddy Nix and I'm kind of glad I'm not because the 1st round pick is a tricky one this year for us with the addition of Mario Williams. Edited March 19, 2012 by DefenseWinzChampionshipz
LynchMob23 Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 If they didn't take Bulaga, why would they take Reiff though?
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 If they didn't take Bulaga, why would they take Reiff though? But the should've taken Bulaga, they have to make up for it now and reach this season We need an LT, but no need to reach, besides this guy might even be off the board before he gets to us (even bigger reach). Eitehr trade down and get an LT without reaching or look to the second tier.
PDaDdy Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) Riley Reiff, 6-5/313 <li>Offensive Tackle <li>Iowa <br style='font:/24px "Times New Roman"; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;'><br style='font:/24px "Times New Roman"; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;'>Riley Reiff Scouting Report By Charlie Campbell Strengths:<li>Quick feet<li>Mirrors well with speed rushers<li>Knee bend<li>Anchors well against bull rushers<li>Quality run blocker<li>Good pad level<li>Mobility to hit blocks on the second level<li>Athletic<li>Recoverability<li>Reliable pass protector<li>Smart<li>Advanced technique<li>Flexible to play zone-blocking or man-blocking scheme<li>Kicks out well to set up perimeter runs<li>Ready to play immediately in the NFL<li>Durable<li>Experienced Unless you think Martin goes before Reiff, which he may, I'm thinking Martin could be our pick. I'm not in love with a guy they are projecting to RT. I think we may go with someone to PLAY outside LB. Ingram? Mercilus? Upshaw for rushing downs? Can't rule out a CB. If our draft history says ANYTHING it says we love DBs! Edited March 19, 2012 by PDaDdy
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) Other than Kalil, there is no LT top-of-the-first-round stud out there. I'd be surprised if we take a LT at 10. Martin you could make an outside argument for, but he needed TE help A LOT at Stanford. Reiff (like has been said) has short arms. Adams has strength/conditioning issues and questions. Those are not the kind of things you look for in a Top 10 pick. I could see Floyd. I could see DeCastro. Coples has the physical gifts, and I think is less of a chance with the addition of Mario Williams. Those guys qualify as BPA at 10 IMHO. Edited March 19, 2012 by BEAST MODE BABY!
Alaska Darin Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 I think he actually has small arms too. That said, how many playoff teams has Thomas played on? Or Jake Long? Offensive tackles don't win you football games. The only single position that wins football games is QB and you better have one of the "all timers" there for that to even be the case. I'd even argue that it has more to do with the salary cap now than the QBs. When you look back at the dominant QBs pre-salary cap, they generally had very, very good teams around them. For example, Joe Montana never won a SB with a defense that ranked worse than 2nd in the NFL. Other than Kalil, there is no LT top-of-the-first-round stud out there. I'd be surprised if we take a LT at 10. Martin you could make an outside argument for, but he needed TE help A LOT at Stanford. Reiff (like has been said) has short arms. Adams has strength/conditioning issues and questions. Those are not the kind of things you look for in a Top 10 pick. I could see Floyd. I could see DeCastro. Coples has the physical gifts, and I think is less of a chance with the addition of Mario Williams. Those guys qualify as BPA at 10 IMHO. Floyd is the only one I know anything about. Is there a chance Coples could be a JP Paul type guy? That would be freakin' sick.
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Floyd is the only one I know anything about. Is there a chance Coples could be a JP Paul type guy? That would be freakin' sick. I'm just some dude on the Internet. I'm no scout. BUT, perhaps, if Coples were there at 10, I think Mario being here would put less pressure on him to be THE GUY and he could develop well. He was double teamed a lot last year at UNC. If we have 4 guys on the line who command double teams, well, that's a problem I'd like to have.
BobChalmers Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) Can't rule out a CB. If our draft history says ANYTHING it says we love DBs! C'mon - don't project Dick (former pro-bowler DB) Jauron's history on to the new regime. It means nothing. Buddy's already said he's going to add a OT - just a question of who he likes and what round. I'm definitely thinking it's with the #10 pick though. Edited March 19, 2012 by BobChalmers
Kelly the Dog Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 I more I read, hear and see about Jonathan Martin (and I have watched about 20 Stanford games he has played in although certainly did not key on him), the more I am convinced he is going to be our pick if he is there.
Billshank Redemption Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 reiff had an awful pro day today and is being projected as a guard.... pass
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Yep. Unimpressive combine, unimpressive pro day, and being projected at Guard. Might want to change the title from "Bank on it!" to "No fudgin' way!".
chris heff Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 I would have no problem with either Reiff or Martin. I do feel that this is going to be the choice, even if Bell re-signs. I'll take your draft.
CSBill Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 regardless this team has negelected the offensive line the past few years..i like bell, but he hasnt said he wants to come back. Yea we can plug in other guys but thats not going to help up win the battle up front. You need a strong LT and thats Martin. We moved back into the 1st rd in 2009 to get wood, i wish the would have pulled the trigger and moved up higher to get oher. Oh and that same draft our FO decided to go maybin instead of brian orakpo. Just think what are def would look like now! But who knows what the FO will do, prolly pick trent richardson or tannehill (sp?). I have seen crazier things with this franchise on draft day. "regardless this team has negelected the offensive line the past few years." ???? REALLY? Did we not pick Levitre and Wood with high draft picks, and Urbik and Pears were aggressive free agent pick ups ?????? "Neglected" not sure there is a real basis for that perspective. Anyhow, I would be satisfied with Bell (provide he is resigned) and Hairston fighting it out for that spot, and unless the LT drafted in the #10 spot is an instant & dominant starter, I'm not sure it would be much of an upgrade. At this point I don't think a LT is the pick.
LynchMob23 Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 I more I read, hear and see about Jonathan Martin (and I have watched about 20 Stanford games he has played in although certainly did not key on him), the more I am convinced he is going to be our pick if he is there. As much as we like run blockers seems like Chan likes the pass blocking lineman even if they can't get as nasty in the run game. If Martin was smart enough to grasp the protections in Stanford's WCO, he can handle Chan's with Fitz calling audibles!
BillsWatch Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Hard to imagine drafting an LT at #10 and not have him start. If there is any question, he won't be picked. PTR Sure I can imagine it if the player has a hold out and misses a good deal of the training camp.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Wow. The OP was edited for clarity by a mod? I wonder what the "before" looked like. Hard to imagine drafting an LT at #10 and not have him start. If there is any question, he won't be picked. PTR Actually I hope someday soon the Bills become one of those teams where it's NOT automatically assumed that the first round pick will be a day one starter… because they're stacked with talent and drafting late in the first round.
Bill from NYC Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 I think he actually has small arms too. That said, how many playoff teams has Thomas played on? Or Jake Long? Offensive tackles don't win you football games. They really do. And even more important is the fact that that bad ones LOSE you football games. Players such as Greg Jerman, Marcus Spriggs, Corey Loucheiy, and a litany of other horrid OTs on this football team have lost the Bills game after game after game for a generation. Can you possibly disagree with this?
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