jjmac Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 Not enough resume to be a top 10 pick. I would be shocked even more than when the Bills took Whitner. It would be a similar reach really. How much resume did Calvin Johnson have when he was picked #2?
PDaDdy Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 How much resume did Calvin Johnson have when he was picked #2? That is kind of the point with these GT guys. I am not big into this college vs that college etc etc. Hill, however, is quite literally the next BIG(and super fast) thing to come out of GT.
BuffaloATL Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 Even though I'm not a fan of Hill (see earlier post) people need to stop judging him based on stats. WRs do more blocking than route running in GTs triple option. Stats won't paint an accurate picture for guys coming out of GT, Army, etc.
Reed83HOF Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) Turns out he was plucked off the bargain rack… looks to me like his agent planted those Manningham to Buffalo rumors. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/23/mario-manningham-got-7-375-million-from-the-49ers/ I didn't even read the article, just the headline; hence me saying he made more than SJ Edited March 24, 2012 by reed83 4th Rounder
mob16151 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Posted March 24, 2012 I'd love to get involved in this thread, nut I'm sure most of you know my opinion at this point. lol
jjmac Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 That is kind of the point with these GT guys. I am not big into this college vs that college etc etc. Hill, however, is quite literally the next BIG(and super fast) thing to come out of GT. Which is why I would like to trafe down and still pick him up. The key to that, of course, is to not trade down too far.
PDaDdy Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 I think this video is old but I am really liking this kid. Seems like a good man. Gotta love the Hendricks hoodie! +1 http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/3/6/2850145/49ers-stephen-hill-pro-day-video
RTW2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 How much resume did Calvin Johnson have when he was picked #2? Biletnikoff Winner in 06, runner-up in 05. First team All-American 05 and 06. Not a bad resume, eh?
jjmac Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Biletnikoff Winner in 06, runner-up in 05. First team All-American 05 and 06. Not a bad resume, eh? Not a bad resume, but the awards do not always translate to a stellar pro career.
mob16151 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 Biletnikoff Winner in 06, runner-up in 05. First team All-American 05 and 06. Not a bad resume, eh? Correct me if Im wrong, but wasn't that before Johnson arrived as HC at Ga Tech and installed the triple option.
kabnt2005 Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I've been raving about this guy for a while now. If we don't get Floyd at #10, get Hill somehow. I don't care how.
PDaDdy Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 More Stephen Hill news. Working out with Calvin "Megatron" Johnson CAN'T be a bad thing! http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/15/georgia-tech-coach-says-stephen-hill-is-ready-for-an-nfl-offense/ By the way does anyone know if we have had this guy in for a visit?
NewEra Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 I can't see him being the pick at 10. I can't see him being available in round 2. I can't see buddy giving up picks to trade up for him. I can't see him being a bill. Selecting him at 10 is the most likely scenario and based on buddies philosophy of drafting the bpa, it's a big stretch.
Mark Long Beach Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 I can't see him being the pick at 10. I can't see him being available in round 2. I can't see buddy giving up picks to trade up for him. I can't see him being a bill. Selecting him at 10 is the most likely scenario and based on buddies philosophy of drafting the bpa, it's a big stretch. I second this. Not worth #10, probably not around in round 2. I like much of what I've seen of SH, but it's SUCH a small sample size because he wasn't thrown to much. Not only that, in his highlight videos look how often the CB is busy looking into the backfield trying to help stop the overpresent run, run and more run that the GT offense does. He won't have that distraction luxury in the NFL. He's definitely an athlete, and willing team player, but can he be a productive WR in the NFL? RISKY bet.
Astrobot Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 Not enough resume to be a top 10 pick. I would be shocked even more than when the Bills took Whitner. It would be a similar reach really. Yep. We have Hill going to Cleveland at their #22 (If Cleveland is the team at #22...I'd like to see a trade here... )
PDaDdy Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) I can't see him being the pick at 10. I can't see him being available in round 2. I can't see buddy giving up picks to trade up for him. I can't see him being a bill. Selecting him at 10 is the most likely scenario and based on buddies philosophy of drafting the bpa, it's a big stretch. Great points except for the fact that Buddy Nix was sighted at his pro day. I don't think Buddy does much traveling unless there is some serious consideration. I was being honest. Great point. I don't see this happening unless there is some movement in the draft. I would not poop a brick if we took him at #10 but I find it highly unlikely. It would be considered one of the bigger "reaches" in recent history. If I'm not mistaken this was post combine after his measureables made him a consensus first round pick. Consensus first round pick meaning he will "go" in the first round. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/3/9/2856717/2012-nfl-draft-stephen-hill-buffalo-bills Yep. We have Hill going to Cleveland at their #22 (If Cleveland is the team at #22...I'd like to see a trade here... ) If it happens I would imagine that it would be due to a trade back or a trade up back into the 1st round. 22 might be a bit late though. For what it's worth he was interviewed and featured on Sports Center and seems like a solid well spoken character guy. First thing he plans on doing with his money when asked was to give his tithe to the church and take care of his parents. Edited April 16, 2012 by PDaDdy
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 By the way does anyone know if we have had this guy in for a visit? Last time I checked, no, he has not visited One Bills Drive.
NoSaint Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Correct me if Im wrong, but wasn't that before Johnson arrived as HC at Ga Tech and installed the triple option. Yes. You are correct. Not a bad resume, but the awards do not always translate to a stellar pro career. That's pretty immaculate as far as resumes go. I enjoy you brought it up then discredit looking at it when you realized how absolutely impeccable his college work was.
filthymcnasty08 Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Get Gilmore at #10....trade back into the first (possibly using next years weaker #1) and grab Hill OR Give next years 1 to Pitt for Wallace Then go nuts with OT/LB/Depth and Russel Wilson late in the 4th Something tells me that Ga Tech connection is strong to very strong with Chix and this is their guy.
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