Soldier goes Postal

[Bronc24]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/12/us/afghanistan-shootings-base/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

[Barack Obama]

Let me be clear.

 

This is indeed a tragedy. But it is also an opportunity for further gun regulations. There is no excuse why this young man should have such ready access to firearms on an Army base in a war zone.

 

There were children around.

[DC Tom]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/12/us/afghanistan-shootings-base/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

 

Someone did.

 

http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/142973-the-fish-rots-from-the-head-down/page__view__findpost__p__2401161

 

 

It's just that no one cared, because the poster's an idiot.

[TheMadCap]

Ironically, the Taliban called it an "inhuman crime" and swore revenge. I guess flying multiple airplanes into buildings and killing upwards of 3100 civilians is just fine!

[....lybob]

Ironically, the Taliban called it an "inhuman crime" and swore revenge. I guess flying multiple airplanes into buildings and killing upwards of 3100 civilians is just fine!

Good point except that wasn't the Taliban that was 14 Saudis and 5 Egyptians- The operation supposedly run by another Saudi Osama bin laden who before he was the leader of al-Qaeda was part of the Arab mujaheddin trained and supported by the CIA to help the Afghanistan mujahideen fight the Soviets.

[3rdnlng]

Good point except that wasn't the Taliban that was 14 Saudis and 5 Egyptians- The operation supposedly run by another Saudi Osama bin laden who before he was the leader of al-Qaeda was part of the Arab mujaheddin trained and supported by the CIA to help the Afghanistan mujahideen fight the Soviets.

 

 

Who was running Afghanistan when all of those Saudis and Egyptians were being trained there? My god, lyrbob, are you a citizen, and if so, when did ferrets qualify to be citizens? I think you would mate with a snake for the whole purpose of seeing the offspring.

[DC Tom]

Good point except that wasn't the Taliban that was 14 Saudis and 5 Egyptians- The operation supposedly run by another Saudi Osama bin laden who before he was the leader of al-Qaeda was part of the Arab mujaheddin trained and supported by the CIA to help the Afghanistan mujahideen fight the Soviets.

 

The Taliban wouldn't turn over bin Laden without trial...whereas in this case, no trial needed. Hence the irony. Try to keep up.

 

 

And the "al Qaeda - CIA" ties basically aren't. The faction of the mujaheddin that Al Qaeda was in was funded largely by the Saudis and Pakistanis, who surprisingly didn't intermingle their finances with the CIA.

[Magox]

Even this becomes a partisan issue JESUS!!! It was a !@#$ing tragedy! Worst thing an American has done since the war began, and you idiots want to somehow justify it with 9/11 IDIOTS!

Edited March 13, 2012 by Magox

[....lybob]

The Taliban wouldn't turn over bin Laden without trial...whereas in this case, no trial needed. Hence the irony. Try to keep up.

 

 

And the "al Qaeda - CIA" ties basically aren't. The faction of the mujaheddin that Al Qaeda was in was funded largely by the Saudis and Pakistanis, who surprisingly didn't intermingle their finances with the CIA.

Bin Laden was running (figurehead)the MAK which was supported in insurgent activity against the Soviets by the ISI and through the ISI the CIA - The Taliban had !@#$ to do with 9-11, there was no training going on in Afghanistan unless you count goat herding, mud hut building and maybe reading the Koran as training - the 9-11 hijackers were trained in Florida and San Diego - Pashtun Hospitality is often given the blame as why they wouldn't just give him over to the US I give more credence to the position that the Government in Kabul really didn't even have the ability to grab and bring forth Osama in the time period that the US demanded- the Idea of a "central" government in Afghanistan is laughable.

 

Even this becomes a partisan issue JESUS!!! It was a !@#$ing tragedy! Worst thing an American has done since the war began, and you idiots want to somehow justify it with 9/11 IDIOTS!

not even close to the worst thing America has done since the war began.

[Magox]

Bin Laden was running (figurehead)the MAK which was supported in insurgent activity against the Soviets by the ISI and through the ISI the CIA - The Taliban had !@#$ to do with 9-11, there was no training going on in Afghanistan unless you count goat herding, mud hut building and maybe reading the Koran as training - the 9-11 hijackers were trained in Florida and San Diego - Pashtun Hospitality is often given the blame as why they wouldn't just give him over to the US I give more credence to the position that the Government in Kabul really didn't even have the ability to grab and bring forth Osama in the time period that the US demanded- the Idea of a "central" government in Afghanistan is laughable.

 

 

not even close to the worst thing America has done since the war began.

Give me an example of what an American has done that is worse?

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

The amount of stress being burdened by such a disproportionately small percentage of our national population (the military) is sad and under appreciated by most citizens

 

My sincere condolences for those innocent afghan civilians and all their loss and suffering.

 

However no excuse can ever justify a poorly thought out premeditated indiscriminate needless massacre. It's sad that this soldier has lost all discipline and had a complete meltdown and equally sad that no one recognized his warning signs before his shooting spree. Clearly this sergeant was well beyond his psychological breaking point. the actions of this single soldier has disgraced an entire nation.

 

It's equally troubling that his actions of hate and frustration will now lead to retaliation and more servicemembers afghan civilians and taliban being killed because the taliban feel their actions are now justified

Edited March 13, 2012 by drinkTHEkoolaid

[Jim in Anchorage]

Bin Laden was running (figurehead)the MAK which was supported in insurgent activity against the Soviets by the ISI and through the ISI the CIA - The Taliban had !@#$ to do with 9-11, there was no training going on in Afghanistan unless you count goat herding, mud hut building and maybe reading the Koran as training - the 9-11 hijackers were trained in Florida and San Diego - Pashtun Hospitality is often given the blame as why they wouldn't just give him over to the US I give more credence to the position that the Government in Kabul really didn't even have the ability to grab and bring forth Osama in the time period that the US demanded- the Idea of a "central" government in Afghanistan is laughable.

 

 

not even close to the worst thing America has done since the war began.

You never heard of Mullah Omar?

[....lybob]

Give me an example of what an American has done that is worse?

well for numbers

 

The Haditha killings (also called the Haditha incident or the Haditha massacre) refers to the incident in which 24 unarmed Iraqi men, women and children were killed by a group of United States Marines on November 19, 2005 in Haditha, a city in the western Iraqi province of Al Anbar. All those killed were civilians[1]. The dead included several children and elderly people, who were shot multiple times at close range while unarmed. It has been alleged that the killings were retribution for the attack on a convoy of Marines with an improvised explosive device that killed Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas and many news reports have compared the incident to the My Lai massacre.[2]

An initial Marine Corps communique reported that 15 civilians were killed by the bomb's blast and eight insurgents were subsequently killed when the Marines returned fire against those attacking the convoy. However, other evidence uncovered by the media contradicted the Marines' account.[3] A Time magazine reporter's questions prompted the United States military to open an investigation into the incident. The investigation claimed it found evidence that "supports accusations that U.S. Marines deliberately shot civilians, including unarmed men, women and children", according to an anonymous Pentagon official.[4] At least three officers were officially reprimanded for failing to properly initially report and investigate the killings.[citation needed] On December 21, 2006, eight Marines from 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines were charged in connection with the incident.

 

Uruzgan helicopter attack

The victims were traveling in three buses in broad daylight in a group of 42 civilians in Uruzgan province near the border to Daykundi on February 21, 2010 .[5][6] When the convoy was on a main road in the village of Zerma it came under attack from U.S. Special Forces piloting Little Bird helicopters using "airborne weapons". NATO later stated that they believed at that time that the minibuses were carrying insurgents.[7][8] 27 civilians including four women and one child were killed in the attack while another 12 were wounded. Initially the number of deaths was reported at 33.[9] ISAF ground troops transported the wounded to medical treatment facilities after they found women and children at the scene.

 

Deh Bala wedding party bombing refers to the killing of a large number of Afghan civilians mostly women and children who were walking the bride of a wedding ceremony to the groom's village in Dih Bala district of Nangarhar province, Afghanistan.[1][2]

When the group was stopping for a rest it was hit by at least three U.S. military bombs that killed most of the victims instantly on 6 July 2008.[3] The U.S. military initially denied that any civilians were killed in the incident.[4][5]

An investigation ordered by President Karzai and led by a nine-man commission of the senate found that 47 civilians including the bride had been killed, this was also confirmed by human rights officials.

 

Wech Baghtu wedding party attack refers to the killing of a large number of Afghan civilians mostly women and children who had gathered to celebrate a wedding when coming under attack by US warplanes dropping bombs on a housing complex in the village of Wech Baghtu, Shah Wali Kot District of Kandahar province, Afghanistan.[1][2][3]

An investigation found that a total of 37 civilians were killed in the incident including 23 children and 10 women, another 27–35 including the bride were wounded. The bombing wasn't the end of the ordeal, the villagers said. When the air strikes were over, international troops arrived, intimidated the villagers and prevented them from leaving to seek medical treatment while the soldiers took pictures. The Afghan government report also accused the Taliban of seeking shelter near the wedding party.

 

 

now if you want to talk heinousness

 

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A U.S. military court in Baghdad heard graphic testimony on Monday of how three U.S. soldiers took turns raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl before murdering her and her family.

 

 

At the hearing into whether four U.S. soldiers should be court-martialled for rape and murder, a special agent described what took place in Mahmudiya in March, based on an interview he had with one of the men, Specialist James Barker.

 

The case, the fifth involving serious crimes being investigated by the U.S. military in Iraq, has outraged Iraqis and led Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to call for a review of foreign troops' immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law.

 

Special Agent Benjamin Bierce recalled that Barker described to him how they put a couple and their six-year-old daughter into a bedroom of their home, but kept the teenage girl in the living room, where Barker held her hands while Sergeant Paul Cortez raped her or attempted to rape her.

 

Barker then switched positions with Cortez and attempted to rape the girl but said he was not sure if he had done so, Bierce told the hearing.

 

Barker also told the special agent he heard shots from the bedroom and shortly afterwards Private Steven Green emerged from the room, put down an AK-47 assault rifle and raped the girl while Cortez held her down.

 

SHOT HER SEVERAL TIMES

 

Barker told Bierce that Green then picked up the weapon and shot her once, paused, and shot her several more times.

 

Military prosecutors are expected to set out their case against Private First Class Jesse Spielman, 21, Barker, 23, Cortez, 23 and Private First Class Bryan Howard, 19, who face charges of rape and murder among others.

 

 

 

or this

 

The Maywand District killings refers to the murder of at least three Afghan civilians perpetrated by a group of U.S. Army soldiers in 2010, during the War in Afghanistan. The soldiers, who referred to themselves as the "Kill Team",[1][2] were members of the 3rd Platoon, Bravo Company, 2nd Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. They were based at FOB Ramrod at Maiwand, in the southern Kandahar Province of Afghanistan.[3][4]

During the summer of 2010, the military charged five members of the platoon with murder of three Afghan civilians in Kandahar province and collecting their body parts as trophies. In addition, seven soldiers were charged with crimes such as hashish use, impeding an investigation, and attacking the whistleblower Spc. Justin Stoner.

 

only two and not savaged but there is something awful about shooting helpless people in your custody

 

VILSECK, Germany — A videotape played Thursday in the trial of a U.S. soldier shows him describing how he shot two of four bound and blindfolded Iraqi prisoners in March 2007.

 

Sgt. Michael Leahy Jr., 28, was videotaped talking with Army investigators last year. A pre-trial motion by Leahy’s attorneys to suppress the video failed.

 

The video showed Leahy confessing an hour and 10 minutes into an interview with a Criminal Investigation Command special agent in Schweinfurt, Germany.

 

"I shot one of them," Leahy told the agent. "I shot two shots," he said, pointing his hand like a pistol.

 

 

"It was my decision. I always knew this ... would come back to me," he said.

 

The prisoners’ bodies were dumped in a Baghdad canal.

 

 

if you want more....

[3rdnlng]

well for numbers

 

The Haditha killings (also called the Haditha incident or the Haditha massacre) refers to the incident in which 24 unarmed Iraqi men, women and children were killed by a group of United States Marines on November 19, 2005 in Haditha, a city in the western Iraqi province of Al Anbar. All those killed were civilians[1]. The dead included several children and elderly people, who were shot multiple times at close range while unarmed. It has been alleged that the killings were retribution for the attack on a convoy of Marines with an improvised explosive device that killed Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas and many news reports have compared the incident to the My Lai massacre.[2]

An initial Marine Corps communique reported that 15 civilians were killed by the bomb's blast and eight insurgents were subsequently killed when the Marines returned fire against those attacking the convoy. However, other evidence uncovered by the media contradicted the Marines' account.[3] A Time magazine reporter's questions prompted the United States military to open an investigation into the incident. The investigation claimed it found evidence that "supports accusations that U.S. Marines deliberately shot civilians, including unarmed men, women and children", according to an anonymous Pentagon official.[4] At least three officers were officially reprimanded for failing to properly initially report and investigate the killings.[citation needed] On December 21, 2006, eight Marines from 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines were charged in connection with the incident.

 

Uruzgan helicopter attack

The victims were traveling in three buses in broad daylight in a group of 42 civilians in Uruzgan province near the border to Daykundi on February 21, 2010 .[5][6] When the convoy was on a main road in the village of Zerma it came under attack from U.S. Special Forces piloting Little Bird helicopters using "airborne weapons". NATO later stated that they believed at that time that the minibuses were carrying insurgents.[7][8] 27 civilians including four women and one child were killed in the attack while another 12 were wounded. Initially the number of deaths was reported at 33.[9] ISAF ground troops transported the wounded to medical treatment facilities after they found women and children at the scene.

 

Deh Bala wedding party bombing refers to the killing of a large number of Afghan civilians mostly women and children who were walking the bride of a wedding ceremony to the groom's village in Dih Bala district of Nangarhar province, Afghanistan.[1][2]

When the group was stopping for a rest it was hit by at least three U.S. military bombs that killed most of the victims instantly on 6 July 2008.[3] The U.S. military initially denied that any civilians were killed in the incident.[4][5]

An investigation ordered by President Karzai and led by a nine-man commission of the senate found that 47 civilians including the bride had been killed, this was also confirmed by human rights officials.

 

Wech Baghtu wedding party attack refers to the killing of a large number of Afghan civilians mostly women and children who had gathered to celebrate a wedding when coming under attack by US warplanes dropping bombs on a housing complex in the village of Wech Baghtu, Shah Wali Kot District of Kandahar province, Afghanistan.[1][2][3]

An investigation found that a total of 37 civilians were killed in the incident including 23 children and 10 women, another 27–35 including the bride were wounded. The bombing wasn't the end of the ordeal, the villagers said. When the air strikes were over, international troops arrived, intimidated the villagers and prevented them from leaving to seek medical treatment while the soldiers took pictures. The Afghan government report also accused the Taliban of seeking shelter near the wedding party.

 

 

now if you want to talk heinousness

 

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A U.S. military court in Baghdad heard graphic testimony on Monday of how three U.S. soldiers took turns raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl before murdering her and her family.

 

 

At the hearing into whether four U.S. soldiers should be court-martialled for rape and murder, a special agent described what took place in Mahmudiya in March, based on an interview he had with one of the men, Specialist James Barker.

 

The case, the fifth involving serious crimes being investigated by the U.S. military in Iraq, has outraged Iraqis and led Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to call for a review of foreign troops' immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law.

 

Special Agent Benjamin Bierce recalled that Barker described to him how they put a couple and their six-year-old daughter into a bedroom of their home, but kept the teenage girl in the living room, where Barker held her hands while Sergeant Paul Cortez raped her or attempted to rape her.

 

Barker then switched positions with Cortez and attempted to rape the girl but said he was not sure if he had done so, Bierce told the hearing.

 

Barker also told the special agent he heard shots from the bedroom and shortly afterwards Private Steven Green emerged from the room, put down an AK-47 assault rifle and raped the girl while Cortez held her down.

 

SHOT HER SEVERAL TIMES

 

Barker told Bierce that Green then picked up the weapon and shot her once, paused, and shot her several more times.

 

Military prosecutors are expected to set out their case against Private First Class Jesse Spielman, 21, Barker, 23, Cortez, 23 and Private First Class Bryan Howard, 19, who face charges of rape and murder among others.

 

 

 

or this

 

The Maywand District killings refers to the murder of at least three Afghan civilians perpetrated by a group of U.S. Army soldiers in 2010, during the War in Afghanistan. The soldiers, who referred to themselves as the "Kill Team",[1][2] were members of the 3rd Platoon, Bravo Company, 2nd Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. They were based at FOB Ramrod at Maiwand, in the southern Kandahar Province of Afghanistan.[3][4]

During the summer of 2010, the military charged five members of the platoon with murder of three Afghan civilians in Kandahar province and collecting their body parts as trophies. In addition, seven soldiers were charged with crimes such as hashish use, impeding an investigation, and attacking the whistleblower Spc. Justin Stoner.

 

only two and not savaged but there is something awful about shooting helpless people in your custody

 

VILSECK, Germany — A videotape played Thursday in the trial of a U.S. soldier shows him describing how he shot two of four bound and blindfolded Iraqi prisoners in March 2007.

 

Sgt. Michael Leahy Jr., 28, was videotaped talking with Army investigators last year. A pre-trial motion by Leahy’s attorneys to suppress the video failed.

 

The video showed Leahy confessing an hour and 10 minutes into an interview with a Criminal Investigation Command special agent in Schweinfurt, Germany.

 

"I shot one of them," Leahy told the agent. "I shot two shots," he said, pointing his hand like a pistol.

 

 

"It was my decision. I always knew this ... would come back to me," he said.

 

The prisoners’ bodies were dumped in a Baghdad canal.

 

 

if you want more....

You should give all the credits for what you posted. We wouldn't want to think it was your thoughts that went into it. You are John Murtha reincarnate.

[UConn James]

You should give all the credits for what you posted. We wouldn't want to think it was your thoughts that went into it. You are John Murtha reincarnate.

 

Nevermind that half of those were Iraq.

 

...lybob is under the impression that during war, everything is supposed to go smoothly. Those were military mistakes in identification of targets from the NATO forces. All evidence says this appears to be a case of an outright murder spree by someone who just lost it.

 

But, you know, they haven't responded in 3 days now. After the accidental Quran burning, Afghan soldiers turned their guns on Americans who were working with them. Obama formally apologized for that but none such here. So it begs the question... do they actually revere pieces of paper more than human life?

[....lybob]

Even this becomes a partisan issue JESUS!!! It was a !@#$ing tragedy! Worst thing an American has done since the war began, and you idiots want to somehow justify it with 9/11 IDIOTS!

 

 

 

 

not even close to the worst thing America has done since the war began.

 

 

Give me an example of what an American has done that is worse?

 

 

Nevermind that half of those were Iraq.

 

...lybob is under the impression that during war, everything is supposed to go smoothly. Those were military mistakes in identification of targets from the NATO forces. All evidence says this appears to be a case of an outright murder spree by someone who just lost it.

 

But, you know, they haven't responded in 3 days now. After the accidental Quran burning, Afghan soldiers turned their guns on Americans who were working with them. Obama formally apologized for that but none such here. So it begs the question... do they actually revere pieces of paper more than human life?

It's called the war on terror you dumb !@#$- otherwise there are no wars just various military actions- and I'm under no impression that war is suppose to go smoothly or that there are surgical strikes or that you can win hearts and minds or nation build- I'm answering a specific question by Magox - and yes many/most of them revere the Koran more than human life - are you just getting to the party? it's not just your ignorance that astonishes me it's how you revel in your ignorance.

[Adam]

For the people who are going crazy right now- do you understand what brain injuries or dementia can lead one to do? I am not justifying what was done, but I do understand it. I see it as this- He is accountable for his actions, but not responsible for them. Very sad and tragic on all counts- he should be brought to justice, but it wasn't murder.

[Nanker]

well for numbers

 

The Haditha killings (also called the Haditha incident or the Haditha massacre) refers to the incident in which 24 unarmed Iraqi men, women and children were killed by a group of United States Marines on November 19, 2005 in Haditha, a city in the western Iraqi province of Al Anbar. All those killed were civilians[1]. The dead included several children and elderly people, who were shot multiple times at close range while unarmed. It has been alleged that the killings were retribution for the attack on a convoy of Marines with an improvised explosive device that killed Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas and many news reports have compared the incident to the My Lai massacre.[2]

An initial Marine Corps communique reported that 15 civilians were killed by the bomb's blast and eight insurgents were subsequently killed when the Marines returned fire against those attacking the convoy. However, other evidence uncovered by the media contradicted the Marines' account.[3] A Time magazine reporter's questions prompted the United States military to open an investigation into the incident. The investigation claimed it found evidence that "supports accusations that U.S. Marines deliberately shot civilians, including unarmed men, women and children", according to an anonymous Pentagon official.[4] At least three officers were officially reprimanded for failing to properly initially report and investigate the killings.[citation needed] On December 21, 2006, eight Marines from 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines were charged in connection with the incident.

 

Uruzgan helicopter attack

The victims were traveling in three buses in broad daylight in a group of 42 civilians in Uruzgan province near the border to Daykundi on February 21, 2010 .[5][6] When the convoy was on a main road in the village of Zerma it came under attack from U.S. Special Forces piloting Little Bird helicopters using "airborne weapons". NATO later stated that they believed at that time that the minibuses were carrying insurgents.[7][8] 27 civilians including four women and one child were killed in the attack while another 12 were wounded. Initially the number of deaths was reported at 33.[9] ISAF ground troops transported the wounded to medical treatment facilities after they found women and children at the scene.

 

Deh Bala wedding party bombing refers to the killing of a large number of Afghan civilians mostly women and children who were walking the bride of a wedding ceremony to the groom's village in Dih Bala district of Nangarhar province, Afghanistan.[1][2]

When the group was stopping for a rest it was hit by at least three U.S. military bombs that killed most of the victims instantly on 6 July 2008.[3] The U.S. military initially denied that any civilians were killed in the incident.[4][5]

An investigation ordered by President Karzai and led by a nine-man commission of the senate found that 47 civilians including the bride had been killed, this was also confirmed by human rights officials.

 

Wech Baghtu wedding party attack refers to the killing of a large number of Afghan civilians mostly women and children who had gathered to celebrate a wedding when coming under attack by US warplanes dropping bombs on a housing complex in the village of Wech Baghtu, Shah Wali Kot District of Kandahar province, Afghanistan.[1][2][3]

An investigation found that a total of 37 civilians were killed in the incident including 23 children and 10 women, another 27–35 including the bride were wounded. The bombing wasn't the end of the ordeal, the villagers said. When the air strikes were over, international troops arrived, intimidated the villagers and prevented them from leaving to seek medical treatment while the soldiers took pictures. The Afghan government report also accused the Taliban of seeking shelter near the wedding party.

 

 

now if you want to talk heinousness

 

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A U.S. military court in Baghdad heard graphic testimony on Monday of how three U.S. soldiers took turns raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl before murdering her and her family.

 

 

At the hearing into whether four U.S. soldiers should be court-martialled for rape and murder, a special agent described what took place in Mahmudiya in March, based on an interview he had with one of the men, Specialist James Barker.

 

The case, the fifth involving serious crimes being investigated by the U.S. military in Iraq, has outraged Iraqis and led Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to call for a review of foreign troops' immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law.

 

Special Agent Benjamin Bierce recalled that Barker described to him how they put a couple and their six-year-old daughter into a bedroom of their home, but kept the teenage girl in the living room, where Barker held her hands while Sergeant Paul Cortez raped her or attempted to rape her.

 

Barker then switched positions with Cortez and attempted to rape the girl but said he was not sure if he had done so, Bierce told the hearing.

 

Barker also told the special agent he heard shots from the bedroom and shortly afterwards Private Steven Green emerged from the room, put down an AK-47 assault rifle and raped the girl while Cortez held her down.

 

SHOT HER SEVERAL TIMES

 

Barker told Bierce that Green then picked up the weapon and shot her once, paused, and shot her several more times.

 

Military prosecutors are expected to set out their case against Private First Class Jesse Spielman, 21, Barker, 23, Cortez, 23 and Private First Class Bryan Howard, 19, who face charges of rape and murder among others.

 

 

 

or this

 

The Maywand District killings refers to the murder of at least three Afghan civilians perpetrated by a group of U.S. Army soldiers in 2010, during the War in Afghanistan. The soldiers, who referred to themselves as the "Kill Team",[1][2] were members of the 3rd Platoon, Bravo Company, 2nd Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. They were based at FOB Ramrod at Maiwand, in the southern Kandahar Province of Afghanistan.[3][4]

During the summer of 2010, the military charged five members of the platoon with murder of three Afghan civilians in Kandahar province and collecting their body parts as trophies. In addition, seven soldiers were charged with crimes such as hashish use, impeding an investigation, and attacking the whistleblower Spc. Justin Stoner.

 

only two and not savaged but there is something awful about shooting helpless people in your custody

 

VILSECK, Germany — A videotape played Thursday in the trial of a U.S. soldier shows him describing how he shot two of four bound and blindfolded Iraqi prisoners in March 2007.

 

Sgt. Michael Leahy Jr., 28, was videotaped talking with Army investigators last year. A pre-trial motion by Leahy's attorneys to suppress the video failed.

 

The video showed Leahy confessing an hour and 10 minutes into an interview with a Criminal Investigation Command special agent in Schweinfurt, Germany.

 

"I shot one of them," Leahy told the agent. "I shot two shots," he said, pointing his hand like a pistol.

 

 

"It was my decision. I always knew this ... would come back to me," he said.

 

The prisoners' bodies were dumped in a Baghdad canal.

 

 

if you want more....

 

Yes please. You left of the heinous acts at Abu Ghraib that President Bush ordered.

And the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue should be taken to task for this obscenity in equal measure as his predecessor was for that "horror".

[B-Man]

Occasionally, people let slip certain words that define them. 'Generally' is one of them.

 

 

 

 

Associated Press

 

 

Obama calls Afghan shooting 'heartbreaking,' says he's 'generally proud' of troops

Published March 12, 2012, Associated Press

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's "generally proud"?

 

There are times when there are no words..........but I will say, what an embarrassment our president is.

[Nanker]

I'm generally ashamed of him as President of the US.