John from Riverside Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 I would still like to sign Bell....but not throw the farm at him. Hairston is going to be the swing OT.....I think he would make an AWESOME RT We resigned our RT....I personally think that if he plays the way he did at the end of last year he is going to be riding behind Hairst pretty quickly Left tackle is where the value is going to be at for that 10th pick......the bills dont do a lot of trading around.....I think its going to be a LT. We have signed our QB, our Number 1 receiver, we are going to sign Jackson and have CJ Spiller waiting in the wings...... GOD...excitement for the bills after another dissapointing season.....really?
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) I'm not positive we'll take a LT. We might, but I am not sure. I have been leaning more towards WR, but I have no idea how Nix has them graded. I will say that Bell not being signed increases the chance for a LT. But they can still sign him before the draft. We'll just be competing against other teams. Edited March 5, 2012 by BEAST MODE BABY!
DrDawkinstein Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 I can definitely see the logic behind it. Even if Kalil is gone, there will be 1 or 2 OTs on the board that are worthy of the #10 pick. Not sure same can be said for DE, or WR. I like your plan too. Re-sign Bell, AND get an OT prospect. If our OT situation going into the season is Bell, #10pick, Pears, and Hairston then I really like the way our line is shaping up. Especially with Levitre, Woods, Urbik, and Rhinehart in the interior.
8-8 Forever? Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 I can definitely see the logic behind it. Even if Kalil is gone, there will be 1 or 2 OTs on the board that are worthy of the #10 pick. Not sure same can be said for DE, or WR. I like your plan too. Re-sign Bell, AND get an OT prospect. If our OT situation going into the season is Bell, #10pick, Pears, and Hairston then I really like the way our line is shaping up. Especially with Levitre, Woods, Urbik, and Rhinehart in the interior. yep, I think we may go OT or BPA in any event. I am not sold on Quinton Coples at all. Slow motor guy. Gets crushed by top talent. You can tell he has been a man among boys at every level. Beat guys simply on athletic ability. That won't work in the NFL.
DrDawkinstein Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 yep, I think we may go OT or BPA in any event. I am not sold on Quinton Coples at all. Slow motor guy. Gets crushed by top talent. You can tell he has been a man among boys at every level. Beat guys simply on athletic ability. That won't work in the NFL. Coples and Mercilus arent even on my big board, and I hope they arent on the Bills' either. IF we are going to go DE at #10, it better be Ingram (maybe Upshaw) or no one.
OldTimer1960 Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 It depends on how the Bills have the top OTs graded. From my favorite sources whom I know do their own scouting and have good connections in the NFL, I only see Kalil and Reiff rated as high as a top 10 pick. There are varying opinions on Martin from Stanford - some feel he would be good value at 10, others seem to feel that he is a better RT option and therefore shouldn't fit in the top 10. After Blackmon, I don't think that any of the WRs are sure enough bets to go as high as #10. I think that Kendall Wright really hurt himself with a slow 40 at the combine and I (personally) don't like Floyd from ND. Floyd has too many off-field concerns that suggest that he could have problems in the NFL for me to take him at 10. If Reiff isn't available at 10, my current thought is that Melvin Ingram could be the pick in spite of his less than ideal height. He is probably the best pass rusher in the draft and has shown outstanding athleticism and versatility. He could be very good in a hybrid 4-3 / 3-4 defense. Still, there is some concern about his height and arm length....
John from Riverside Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 I could be wrong but I think Reiff is going to be there.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Well, I'm not going to object to building the O-line or the D-line That said, I do honestly think that our defense is should be the top priority. If a solid DE is graded higher and somehow makes it through the cracks I would take one any day.
JAMIEBUF12 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I would still like to sign Bell....but not throw the farm at him. Hairston is going to be the swing OT.....I think he would make an AWESOME RT We resigned our RT....I personally think that if he plays the way he did at the end of last year he is going to be riding behind Hairst pretty quickly Left tackle is where the value is going to be at for that 10th pick......the bills dont do a lot of trading around.....I think its going to be a LT. We have signed our QB, our Number 1 receiver, we are going to sign Jackson and have CJ Spiller waiting in the wings...... GOD...excitement for the bills after another dissapointing season.....really? i bill........eve we will draft a left tackle as well with the tenth pick.....nix already said the draft is deep with defensive ends...i dont think he wants to take one at ten just to take one...........go bills in 2012:-)
stony Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I could be wrong but I think Reiff is going to be there. That would be great. I'm A-OK with his "short arms."
LABills08 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I'm on board with this. Prior to the SJ extension, I really wasn't sure. Plus, the DE class is suspect and as has long been the case, drafting a good DE is probably only 2nd in difficulty to selecting a good QB. You just never know how a pass rusher is going to pan out. Based on that, all signs point to LT. They need a WR, sure, but I don't think Chan values good WRs the same way he values good offensive lineman. Plus, as was pointed out above, the best value at 10 will probably be an OT.
Mike in Syracuse Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I could actually see us trading down for more picks.
LABills08 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I could actually see us trading down for more picks. Depends. I think if Reiff/Martin are on the board and the Bills haven't resigned Bell, they will be tough to pass on. Those two won't last into the 20's.
Tommy Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 That would be great. I'm A-OK with his "short arms." I don't know...have you ever seen an alligator play left tackle?
Mike in Syracuse Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I don't know...have you ever seen an alligator play left tackle? I've never seen an alligator play LT but I'm positive that if you put a Nile crocodile there a lot of rushers wouldn't make it to Fitz.
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I have two possible dark horse scenarios. 1) Richardson is still there at 10 and someone wants to trade up with us to grab him. 2) Buddy surprises everybody and takes DeCastro at 10 (Someone mentioned a guard has never been taken that high, but Buddy has taken the BPA the past 2 years with our first pick). Edited March 6, 2012 by BEAST MODE BABY!
RealityCheck Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I can definitely see the logic behind it. Even if Kalil is gone, there will be 1 or 2 OTs on the board that are worthy of the #10 pick. Not sure same can be said for DE, or WR. I like your plan too. Re-sign Bell, AND get an OT prospect. If our OT situation going into the season is Bell, #10pick, Pears, and Hairston then I really like the way our line is shaping up. Especially with Levitre, Woods, Urbik, and Rhinehart in the interior. That would be a remarkable situation going into the season. The competition in camp would be the best thing to ever happen to the Bills O-line in years.
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 i bill........eve we will draft a left tackle as well with the tenth pick.....nix already said the draft is deep with defensive ends...i dont think he wants to take one at ten just to take one...........go bills in 2012:-) He (Buddy) also said the draft is deep in tackles. Our # 10 BPA that lands to us may not be a need. Trade down if anyone offers and we have someone elses need. Make them beg of course. I realize its a stretch as things appear right now but when the heat gets turned up we might have some offers for #10. Maybe we could turn some dirt up on Kalil and have him fall just right to us? anyone have anything ? any thing yet about what we might offer Bell?
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Yeah, I can see us trading down to get a high second round pick. We have enough needs in enough places that one silver bullet isn't going to cut it.
CSBill Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 It depends on how the Bills have the top OTs graded. From my favorite sources whom I know do their own scouting and have good connections in the NFL, I only see Kalil and Reiff rated as high as a top 10 pick. There are varying opinions on Martin from Stanford - some feel he would be good value at 10, others seem to feel that he is a better RT option and therefore shouldn't fit in the top 10. After Blackmon, I don't think that any of the WRs are sure enough bets to go as high as #10. I think that Kendall Wright really hurt himself with a slow 40 at the combine and I (personally) don't like Floyd from ND. Floyd has too many off-field concerns that suggest that he could have problems in the NFL for me to take him at 10. If Reiff isn't available at 10, my current thought is that Melvin Ingram could be the pick in spite of his less than ideal height. He is probably the best pass rusher in the draft and has shown outstanding athleticism and versatility. He could be very good in a hybrid 4-3 / 3-4 defense. Still, there is some concern about his height and arm length.... I like any of these scenario - although i think you're being a little hard on Floyd, all I've heard is that he has worked hard to restore his name. That being said, I don't think he is #10 talent.
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