3rdnlng Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Jumping the Fluke (not that that phrase probably hasn't already been invented. I keed, I keed)? Limbaugh was an idiot for calling her a slut and a prostitute. Allred is an idiot for thinking he should be prosecuted. The girl is an idiot for think we should pay for medicine to keep her from getting pregnant while doing the nasty. Rush certainly made a mistake. Big f'n deal, let him have a little backlash for awhile but these women can go get their jollies sitting on a barrel of an anti-aircraft gun instead. Maybe Jane could be giving it a bj as it goes off. Back on track, why should anybody, including herself, pay for contraception when she is a lesbian? Here is some more evidence of the idiocy on the left: http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/bill-introduced-to-regulate-mens-reproductive-health-1341547.html Edited March 12, 2012 by 3rdnlng
Adam Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Rush certainly made a mistake. Big f'n deal, let him have a little backlash for awhile but these women can go get their jollies sitting on a barrel of an anti-aircraft gun instead. Maybe Jane could be giving it a bj as it goes off. Back on track, why should anybody, including herself, pay for contraception when she is a lesbian? Here is some more evidence of the idiocy on the left: http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/bill-introduced-to-regulate-mens-reproductive-health-1341547.html so you agree with the post roh quoted?
B-Man Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Limbaugh doesn't just call people names. He promotes language that deliberately dehumanizes his targets. Like the sophisticated propagandist Josef Goebbels, he creates rhetorical frames -- and the bigger the lie the more effective -- inciting listeners to view people they disagree with as sub-humans. What a hoot ! Did any of these three "independent" women proofread their little article ? They state that they want Rush off the air for using terms like "FemiNazi" just a few sentences after comparing him to Goebbels............................. Brilliant logic.................lol .
Buftex Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Rush certainly made a mistake. Big f'n deal, let him have a little backlash for awhile but these women can go get their jollies sitting on a barrel of an anti-aircraft gun instead. Maybe Jane could be giving it a bj as it goes off. Back on track, why should anybody, including herself, pay for contraception when she is a lesbian? Here is some more evidence of the idiocy on the left: http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/bill-introduced-to-regulate-mens-reproductive-health-1341547.html Okay, not going back to read what I missed, but somehow Hanoi Jane has become part of this discussion? Wow... As for the link you posted, I think this is fuggin' hilarious (as I mentioned last time you posted something similar)... Virginia wants to force ultrasounds on women that aren't needed, and don't serve any purpose, other than trying to guilt a woman into doing something that is legal. Is insurance paying for this? Meanwhile, Arizona wants to make it legal for doctors to lie to women, so they won't, again, to discourage women from doing something that is perfectly in their legal rights. Edited March 12, 2012 by Buftex
3rdnlng Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 so you agree with the post roh quoted? I'm not so sure who roh is, so I can't confirm either way. Actually, just for you my answer is maybe, maybe not.
Adam Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 I'm not so sure who roh is, so I can't confirm either way. Actually, just for you my answer is maybe, maybe not. Autocorrect drives me nuts. Wait till you are my age and typing on a phone. Was supposed to say you, not roh. Although roh is a nice little independent wrestling promotion.
B-Man Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Ann Althouse "Centrist Women Tell of Disenchantment With G.O.P." (NYT headline). Translation: Democrats are Democrats. Am I being unfair? Of course, they found women who say they are/were Republicans/independents.... [ The sudden return of the “culture wars” over the rights of women and their place in society has resulted, the women said, in a distinct change in mood in the past several weeks.... After the talk show host Rush Limbaugh denounced a Georgetown University law student as a “slut” and a “prostitute” for her advocacy of insurance coverage of contraception, some women were critical of Mr. Romney’s tepid response. Some women! “Everybody is so busy telling us how we should act in the bedroom, they’re letting the country fall through the cracks,” said Fran Kelley, a retired public school worker in Seattle who voted for Senator John McCain over Mr. Obama in the 2008 election. Of the Republican candidates this year, she added, “They’re nothing but hatemongers trying to control everyone, saying, ‘Live as I live.’ ” She continued, “If Republicans would stop all this ridiculous talk about contraception, I’d consider voting in November.” Of course, Democrats started the conversation, but it was a good conversation to start if the goal was to get some Republicans to say some things that could be used against them. Fortunately, Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate who is going to be the nominee, had the sense not to say much. He was "tepid." Good! We don't want the government in our bedroom, so we don't need a passionate President. Let him stay in his office and coolly and calmly do his job, which shouldn't have anything to do with sex. He's not our boyfriend. Man, I loathe this pandering to women! Don't treat us like we're stupid. Don't act like we need your special protection. Don't buy us things. Edited March 12, 2012 by B-Man
3rdnlng Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 Okay, not going back to read what I missed, but somehow Hanoi Jane has become part of this discussion? Wow... As for the link you posted, I think this is fuggin' hilarious (as I mentioned last time you posted something similar)... Virginia wants to force ultrasounds on women that aren't needed, and don't serve any purpose, other than trying to guilt a woman into doing something that is legal. Is insurance paying for this? Meanwhile, Arizona wants to make it legal for doctors to lie to women, so they won't, again, to discourage women from doing something that is perfectly in their legal rights. So, you are late to the party again and pretend to know what was going on? Buftex, I've laid off of you lately because someone said you were a girl, and you know I wouldn't pick on the weaker sex. Hanoi Jane, and others want Rush off the air for calling the 30 year old activist who enrolled at Georgetown to fight the fact that contraception wasn't included in her health plan. The whole issue is trumped up and you are now on the side of providing free contraception for a lesbian at 10 times the normal cost. You picked the wrong battle here.
Buftex Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) So, you are late to the party again and pretend to know what was going on? Buftex, I've laid off of you lately because someone said you were a girl, and you know I wouldn't pick on the weaker sex. Hanoi Jane, and others want Rush off the air for calling the 30 year old activist who enrolled at Georgetown to fight the fact that contraception wasn't included in her health plan. The whole issue is trumped up and you are now on the side of providing free contraception for a lesbian at 10 times the normal cost. You picked the wrong battle here. Okay...sorry, not going to get involved in another of your silly little pissing matches. You believe what you want to believe...not really sure what I said to piss you off, but as usual, your response says a lot about you. You believe what you want to believe...I will lay off you, because you have all the maturity of an 11 year old. Edited March 12, 2012 by Buftex
Doc Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 So after digging a little deeper, I found that Georgetown's health insurance does pay for "the pill" for medical conditions, like polycystic ovary syndrome. Yet Fluke, who apparently is lesbian and cannot get pregnant (unless she makes a concerted effort to) want the pill to be paid for so that other women don't have to worry about getting pregnant while having unprotected sex? And she also wants it to pay for transgender surgery? Go pound sand.
3rdnlng Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 Okay...sorry, not going to get involved in another of your silly little pissing matches. You believe what you want to believe...not really sure what I said to piss you off, but as usual, your response says a lot about you. You believe what you want to believe...I will lay off you, because you have all the maturity of an 11 year old. You wondered why Jane was involved and then denigrated me? I thought you were better than that, is all.
Buftex Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) You wondered why Jane was involved and then denigrated me? I thought you were better than that, is all. No, I just thought it was funny, and absurd, that Jane Fonda had gotten involved in the story...I don't see where I denigrated you. By pointing out that I thought all the "men's health" initiatives being pushed by female politicians was actually kind of a clever way of making a point? Your juvenile attack on the sexuality of anyone who doesn't agree with you is pretty immature... Anyways I was just making a commentary on how silly this whole thing had become. Once Gloria Allred, or Jane Fonda get involved, you know the narrative has jumped the shark. Edited March 12, 2012 by Buftex
Buftex Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Ann Althouse Of course, Democrats started the conversation, but it was a good conversation to start if the goal was to get some Republicans to say some things that could be used against them. Fortunately, Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate who is going to be the nominee, had the sense not to say much. He was "tepid." Good! We don't want the government in our bedroom, so we don't need a passionate President. Let him stay in his office and coolly and calmly do his job, which shouldn't have anything to do with sex. He's not our boyfriend. Man, I loathe this pandering to women! Don't treat us like we're stupid. Don't act like we need your special protection. Don't buy us things. It seems every time the Republicans step in ****, they blame Obama for tricking them into something...what a weak argument this woman makes. If you watched, pretty much any of the Republican debates, it was clear, even before this birth control issues, Republicans preach small government, but they are very concerned about what you do in your bedroom. The issues of morality and sex are red meat for the far right of the Republican party.
B-Man Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 It seems every time the Republicans step in ****, they blame Obama for tricking them into something...what a weak argument this woman makes. If you watched, pretty much any of the Republican debates, it was clear, even before this birth control issues, Republicans preach small government, but they are very concerned about what you do in your bedroom. The issues of morality and sex are red meat for the far right of the Republican party. This is false. This is part of the ingrained meme of the left, that they have to hold onto to scare themselves into sticking together. Thanks for being so illustrative. .
3rdnlng Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 No, I just thought it was funny, and absurd, that Jane Fonda had gotten involved in the story...I don't see where I denigrated you. By pointing out that I thought all the "men's health" initiatives being pushed by female politicians was actually kind of a clever way of making a point? Your juvenile attack on the sexuality of anyone who doesn't agree with you is pretty immature... Anyways I was just making a commentary on how silly this whole thing had become. Once Gloria Allred, or Jane Fonda get involved, you know the narrative has jumped the shark. What are you talking about?
Buftex Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) This is false. This is part of the ingrained meme of the left, that they have to hold onto to scare themselves into sticking together. Thanks for being so illustrative. . As is your response an ingrained meme of the right. Two of your four remaining presidential candidates think sex, of any kind, unless it is for procreation, is immoral. What are you talking about? You know what, I really don't want to get into it with you. For some reason, you thought I "denegrated" you, and then let me know that you had been laying off me, because you thought I was a girl. And this kind of crap goes on in almost every thread that goes on for more than a few pages. I don't blame you, I blame myself for bothering to come here...as somebody here once asked. "when was the last time anyone said, or posted anything, that changed your mind on an issue?" Edited March 12, 2012 by Buftex
3rdnlng Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 As is your response an ingrained meme of the right. You know what, I really don't want to get into it with you. For some reason, you thought I "denegrated" you, and then let me know that you had been laying off me, because you thought I was a girl. And this kind of crap goes on in almost every thread that goes on for more than a few pages. I don't blame you, I blame myself for bothering to come here...as somebody here once asked. "when was the last time anyone said, or posted anything, that changed your mind on an issue?" No, a few months ago someone "corrected me" and stated that you were female. Not that it really matters, but at the time I asked you if you were and you wouldn't answer. In your post you wondered why I brought up Jane Fonda, when actually there was a very good reason, but it appeared to me that your response was ridiculing me for bringing her into the conversation, when in fact she brought herself into the conversation.
Joe Miner Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 As is your response an ingrained meme of the right. Two of your four remaining presidential candidates think sex, of any kind, unless it is for procreation, is immoral. That's a bold comment. How is it that you know this?
Rob's House Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 No, I just thought it was funny, and absurd, that Jane Fonda had gotten involved in the story...I don't see where I denigrated you. By pointing out that I thought all the "men's health" initiatives being pushed by female politicians was actually kind of a clever way of making a point? Your juvenile attack on the sexuality of anyone who doesn't agree with you is pretty immature... Anyways I was just making a commentary on how silly this whole thing had become. Once Gloria Allred, or Jane Fonda get involved, you know the narrative has jumped the shark. I actually think it shows how much they miss the point. To view this as a men oppressing women thing is kind of juvenile of them. There are many women who are anti-abortion and many men that are pro-abortion. It's also intellectually dishonest because the issue revolves around killing a baby. Whichever side of the issue you're on, that is still the issue, and whether you consider it a baby or a mass of cells it is still a life form growing into a person that is killed. When a man takes viagra nothing gets killed. Referring to all matters involving abortion as "women's reproductive health issue" as though there are no moral or substantive difference between that and any other procedure involving reproductive health is nothing more than zooming out to an arbitrary point of abstraction to obscure the reality of the situation.
B-Man Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 As is your response an ingrained meme of the right. Two of your four remaining presidential candidates think sex, of any kind, unless it is for procreation, is immoral. Again....a complete fabrication on your part. You offer nothing but cliches. .
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