GG Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Very limited #'s can come to this country legally. Would seem to me the 1st step would be to increase the number of visas available for both skilled and unskilled workers and also make it easier for legal immigrants to become citizens. After that, get the border secured better and as that happens increase the unskilled worker visas further. Once the border is secured, then allow a partial amnesty program for those that were here prior to the initiatives to begin actually securing the border. Oh oh. You uttered a naughty word.
Magox Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Oh oh. You uttered a naughty word. It's worse than a naughty word, it's a big BOOGEY MAN! BOOOGAA BOOGAA BOOOGAA
Taro T Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Oh oh. You uttered a naughty word. Probably. But if the system is remedied to allow for more realistic #'s of immigrants to come into the country legally AND if it has been remedied to cut the flow of illegals entering the country to a trickle then a partial amnesty seems reasonable to 'solve' the problem of what do you do with the existing illegals. Realistically, there's no way all the existing illegals will end up deported nor in jail for illegally entering the U.S.. We have to do something with them and ideally something that doesn't just encourage more illegal entry to the U.S..
GG Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Probably. But if the system is remedied to allow for more realistic #'s of immigrants to come into the country legally AND if it has been remedied to cut the flow of illegals entering the country to a trickle then a partial amnesty seems reasonable to 'solve' the problem of what do you do with the existing illegals. Realistically, there's no way all the existing illegals will end up deported nor in jail for illegally entering the U.S.. We have to do something with them and ideally something that doesn't just encourage more illegal entry to the U.S.. Stop using logic in an emotional discussion. I'm guessing you're not married.
IDBillzFan Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Realistically, there's no way all the existing illegals will end up deported nor in jail for illegally entering the U.S.. We have to do something with them and ideally something that doesn't just encourage more illegal entry to the U.S.. It's simple. Move the Raiders from Oakland to Guadalajara. That'll get half of them back to Mexico in no time.
Taro T Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Stop using logic in an emotional discussion. I'm guessing you're not married. Close, but no cigar. Wife's also an engineer. It's simple. Move the Raiders from Oakland to Guadalajara. That'll get half of them back to Mexico in no time.
Chef Jim Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 It's simple. Move the Raiders from Oakland to Guadalajara. That'll get half of them back to Mexico in no time. Obviously you haven't seen the Raiders following up here since they moved back. You'd lose half of the Mexicans in SoCal and Oakland would lose......well I can't really say what without sounding like a racist. But I have been to a few Raiders games in Oakland since moving here so I'm qualified to make that statement.
IDBillzFan Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Obviously you haven't seen the Raiders following up here since they moved back. You'd lose half of the Mexicans in SoCal and Oakland would lose......well I can't really say what without sounding like a racist. But I have been to a few Raiders games in Oakland since moving here so I'm qualified to make that statement. I've been to a couple of games up there, and I understand what you're saying, but you'd lose a bunch of illegals, too.
Chef Jim Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I've been to a couple of games up there, and I understand what you're saying, but you'd lose a bunch of illegals, too. Oh no doubt and a shitload of 40-60 year old dope smokers. I took a couple of hits off a joint during a game at the Coliseum the year before last and sat in the cold and wind of the upper deck saying "what the !@#$ was I thinking??" Edited March 1, 2012 by Chef Jim
GG Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 It's simple. Move the Raiders from Oakland to Guadalajara. That'll get half of them back to Mexico in no time. Or continue the economic tailspin: Net migration from Mexico has plummeted to zero thanks to changing demographic and economic conditions on both sides of the border, a new study says, even as political battles over illegal immigration heat up and the issue heads to the U.S. Supreme Court. After four decades that brought 12 million Mexican immigrants—more than half of them illegally—to the U.S., the curtain has come down on the biggest immigration wave in modern times. Linky Thingy
GG Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 I guess we can take down these signs now. Not yet. There's still a War on Drugs that needs to be won. It's been a blistering success story so far.
3rdnlng Posted April 24, 2012 Author Posted April 24, 2012 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2532985/posts 'Nuff said.
GG Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 http://www.freerepub...s/2532985/posts 'Nuff said. Is that link supposed to provide proof that the current immigration policy is working?
3rdnlng Posted April 24, 2012 Author Posted April 24, 2012 Is that link supposed to provide proof that the current immigration policy is working? So that's your conclusion? It's obviously not working, but by our choice. When the feds file suit against a state for enforcing existing law something is f'd up. The feds solution is to put up signs in our country warning U.S. citizens of the danger in an area that they have chosen to not control. At some point in time I would hope that the U.S. economy improves. When that happens illegal immigration will pick up again.
GG Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 So that's your conclusion? It's obviously not working, but by our choice. When the feds file suit against a state for enforcing existing law something is f'd up. The feds solution is to put up signs in our country warning U.S. citizens of the danger in an area that they have chosen to not control. At some point in time I would hope that the U.S. economy improves. When that happens illegal immigration will pick up again. So you agree that the migrants come here because of the economy and the jobs?
DC Tom Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 So you agree that the migrants come here because of the economy and the jobs? Not hope and change and rainbow-farting unicorns?
Jauronimo Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Not hope and change and rainbow-farting unicorns? So what you're saying is, four more years of Obama's economic policies and 3rd won't have to shoot all the illegals after all? Never thought of it that way. Well, say what you want about the man, but at least Barry got rid of all the Mexicans.
Chef Jim Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 at least Barry got rid of all the Mexicans. Noooooo, remember...all this is Bush's fault.
d4rksabre Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 I would suggest everyone go out and buy the book Borderlands by Derek Lundy. http://www.amazon.com/Borderlands-Riding-America-Derek-Lundy/dp/0307398633/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1335297477&sr=1-7
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