CodeMonkey Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) We are rebuilding not restocking. We need guys that will play this year and a 1st round pick should be a day 1 starter. Getting a QB to groom on the bench when we have several starters at other positions that need to be gotten rid of or moved to the bench is a bad move for a rebuilding team. I wish Nix thought that way in 2010. I agree with you about the current QB situation.Love him or hate him, Fitz is the QB for the 2012 season. I cannot imagine a scenario that would have the Bills taking a QB in the first round. Edited March 12, 2012 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 We are rebuilding not restocking. We need guys that will play this year and a 1st round pick should be a day 1 starter. Getting a QB to groom on the bench when we have several starters at other positions that need to be gotten rid of or moved to the bench is a bad move for a rebuilding team. Did you really just say this? Forget about the Bills for a second or Fitz...this statement you just said is just ridiculous. I mean you literally just said its a bad move for a "rebuilding team" to draft a stud prospect at QB to groom for the future...lmao, is this opposite world? Come on man, a rebuilding teams highest priority would be to find a young stud QB prospect to build around. Need proof? Indy just parted ways with Manning knowing it needs to rebuild and to start that process with a stud like Luck. Washington knows it needs to rebuild and just traded a bounty to get the 2nd pick and to take RG3. Why? Because rebuilding starts and ends with a QB. If our coach and FO don't believe Fitz is the long term answer, then they need to bring someone in this year they do like to groom for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 2012 NFL Draft: Ryan Tannehill Called 'Franchise Quarterback' By Wes Bunting http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Texas-AM-QB-Ryan-Tannehill-now-the-hot-name-in-the-NFL-Draft.html At this time last year after the combine, he had Ryan Mallett going to the Jags at #16 (before the trade up to #10) in his Mock draft, Nick Fairly as the #2 pick. Give him credit, he got Newton and Dareus correct, though he dropped Newton two weeks later in favor of Fairly at #1. 2011 Mock after combine I gotta agree, we need players now, and not developmental guys in the 1st round. Bunting's (or this website's) scouting report mentions Melvin Ingram's long reach. Everything I've read says he has short arms. Again, Tannehill is recovering from a broken foot, and has a terrible habit of forcing too many passes. His judgment is terrible. There is no way we should be talking about Tannehill even being drafted in the 1st round, but some team may make a desperate pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 ... Again, Tannehill is recovering from a broken foot, and has a terrible habit of forcing too many passes. His judgment is terrible. There is no way we should be talking about Tannehill even being drafted in the 1st round, but some team may make a desperate pick. Agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) who would hold his whoppers for him? Edited March 12, 2012 by Lincoln Osiris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianhawkeye2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 the Bills have been close to drafting a QB in the first round in each of the last two years. in 2010 they almost moved up to get Tim Tebow and last year in 2011 would have taken Cam Newton at #3 overall if he was there......is 2012 the year ?? Ranked #11 overall by NFLDraftScout.com http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/story/2012-02-21/nfl-draft-andrew-luck-robert-griffin-top-64/53191320/1 Tannehill waits for chance to prove he's top 10 material: http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/09000d5d82737021/article/tannehill-waits-for-chance-to-prove-hes-top-10-material?module=HP11_content_stream Id say no. Id rather see someone who could help fitz and not sit on the sidelines. maybe de or wide receiver or LT but not a quarterback. Lets see who we can land in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 2012 NFL Draft: Ryan Tannehill Called 'Franchise Quarterback' By Wes Bunting http://www.nationalf...-NFL-Draft.html From Bunting's piece that you linked: "A potential franchise quarterback in my mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) 2012 NFL Draft: Ryan Tannehill Called 'Franchise Quarterback' By Wes Bunting http://www.nationalf...-NFL-Draft.html HOLY CRAP!!!!! Wes Freakin' Bunting said that about Tannehill???? Wow, that sure changes everything!!!!!! Wes Bunting, the National Football Post's director of college scouting, has been monitoring the college football scene since 2002...He completed a football GM and scouting course from Sports Management Worldwide, studying under Marc Trestman and Russ Lande, and has published scouting reports for NFLSmackdown.com, Scout.com and NFLDraftscout.com. He's a member of the Football Writers Association of America. Bunting's opinion is obviously not to be taken lightly...after all, not only has this guy been 'monitoring the college football scene' for a few years now, but he actually took a course - AND and bought a membership card to the Football Writers Assn of America!!!! If Wes Bunting sez that about Tannehill, it's a definite game-changer - the Bills should now try to trade up to #3 to be sure they don't miss out on Bunting's sure-fire future franchise QB!!! GO BILLSSS!!!! "I expect to win every game!" - Chan Gailey 19 and 0 baby!!!!! . Edited March 13, 2012 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 HOLY CRAP!!!!! Wes Freakin' Bunting said that about Tannehill???? Wow, that sure changes everything!!!!!! Wes Bunting, the National Football Post's director of college scouting, has been monitoring the college football scene since 2002...He completed a football GM and scouting course from Sports Management Worldwide, studying under Marc Trestman and Russ Lande, and has published scouting reports for NFLSmackdown.com, Scout.com and NFLDraftscout.com. He's a member of the Football Writers Association of America. Bunting's opinion is obviously not to be taken lightly...after all, not only has this guy been 'monitoring the college football scene' for a few years now, but he actually took a course - AND and bought a membership card to the Football Writers Assn of America!!!! If Wes Bunting sez that about Tannehill, it's a definite game-changer - the Bills should now try to trade up to #3 to be sure they don't miss out on Bunting's sure-fire future franchise QB!!! GO BILLSSS!!!! "I expect to win every game!" - Chan Gailey 19 and 0 baby!!!!! . are you poo pooing Gil Brandt's credentials too ? As vice president of player personnel for the Cowboys from 1960-89, Gil Brandt helped Dallas grow into one of the most powerful and popular sports franchises in America. His innovative management and personnel systems are standard operating procedure today for many teams at the professional and collegiate levels nationwide. Brandt has spent the last eight years as NFL.com's main personnel guru and offers insight and commentary on all aspects of players and teams. HE RANKS TANNEHILL #7 http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d827522a3/article/hot-100-poe-flies-up-the-board-after-dazzling-combine-showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Did you really just say this? Forget about the Bills for a second or Fitz...this statement you just said is just ridiculous. I mean you literally just said its a bad move for a "rebuilding team" to draft a stud prospect at QB to groom for the future...lmao, is this opposite world? Come on man, a rebuilding teams highest priority would be to find a young stud QB prospect to build around. Need proof? Indy just parted ways with Manning knowing it needs to rebuild and to start that process with a stud like Luck. Washington knows it needs to rebuild and just traded a bounty to get the 2nd pick and to take RG3. Why? Because rebuilding starts and ends with a QB. If our coach and FO don't believe Fitz is the long term answer, then they need to bring someone in this year they do like to groom for the future. So Luck and RG3, who are supposedly can't miss prospects are off the board. You want to draft the not even concensus 3rd best QB to put on the bench to groom? It reminds me of exactly the QB discussions last year. Half of this board or more wanted Blaine Gabbert and thought Newton was an immature bust waiting to happen. Gabbert couldn't even hold Newton's athletic supporter and looks like he took lessons from Cpt Checkdown while cowering in the face of the pass rush. I argued that nobody would even know or care who Gabbert was if Luck had come out last year because all the talk would have been Luck vs Newton. How did that work out for the Jaguars so far? How does drafting a 1 year wonder QB to sit on the bench help us make the playoffs in 2012, 2013, 2014? Get a clue dog. We have the 30th worst defense and we have made WR and even LT off season priorities? You want to draft a guy to sit on the bench for 3 years with our first round pick???? You can't really be serious? Is this just disguised Fitz haterism or do you really feel using your first round pick on a clip board holder on a team with so many holes is a good idea? Your narrow mind of focus is amazing. "Rebuilding starts and ends with the QB"? You're smarter than that man. Your own ending statement says it all and you know the answer already. Fitz has the contract, the support of the owner, the support of the GM, the support of the coach and the support of his WR's like Nelson and Johnson. Apparently they think Fitz is the answer. In that scenario you draft players to help your team now and you DON'T draft a guy who is at best the 3rd best QB in the draft at #10 to sit on the bench as his replacement. That shows a vote of no confidence which is contrary to EVERYTHING else they have said and done. Edited March 13, 2012 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I wish Nix thought that way in 2010. I agree with you about the current QB situation.Love him or hate him, Fitz is the QB for the 2012 season. I cannot imagine a scenario that would have the Bills taking a QB in the first round. To an extent I agree. Fred Jackson turned it up in his 30th year on the planet and perhaps surprised the coaching staff. Many here believed Jackson was a superstar. I was a bit more skeptical. I knew he was good but I didn't know he would produce like he did last year until injuries claimed him again. Spiller was drafted as the heir apparent and I think there were plans to use him more than they did on special teams, WR and RB. Unfortunately those touches didn't materialize but I think they intended him to be more of a day 1 impact player on the field but Fred came on too strong and fought the rookie off and we played from behind a lot reducing RB touches. I agree Spiller wasn't the day 1 starter that I hoped for in that draft but I can say that I am glad that he is on our team. After taking over for Fred he has started showing everyone that he was worth the pick unless you have someone that is so entrenched in their "luxury pick bust" stance that they can't see that the kid has talent. He is just starting to get it going at the NFL level and he still hasn't reached his full potential. It appears that all he needed was touches and time on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 are you poo pooing Gil Brandt's credentials too ? As vice president of player personnel for the Cowboys from 1960-89, Gil Brandt helped Dallas grow into one of the most powerful and popular sports franchises in America. His innovative management and personnel systems are standard operating procedure today for many teams at the professional and collegiate levels nationwide. Brandt has spent the last eight years as NFL.com's main personnel guru and offers insight and commentary on all aspects of players and teams. HE RANKS TANNEHILL #7 http://www.nfl.com/d...combine-showing Now how could I poo poo those credentials - 'specially since, when I look at the web page of "NFL.com's main personnel guru", there they are...verbatim... Link - Gil Brandt No sir...no sir-eee!!!! Wouldn't dare argue with a self-proclaimed GURU - "whose innovative management and personnel systems are standard operating procedure today for many teams at the professional and collegiate levels nationwide." (At least, according to him!!!) I'm holding my ground here, papzoid - Brandon Wheeden will be taken before Tannehill, who will last until at least round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 the Bills have been close to drafting a QB in the first round in each of the last two years. in 2010 they almost moved up to get Tim Tebow and last year in 2011 would have taken Cam Newton at #3 overall if he was there......is 2012 the year ?? Ranked #11 overall by NFLDraftScout.com http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/story/2012-02-21/nfl-draft-andrew-luck-robert-griffin-top-64/53191320/1 Tannehill waits for chance to prove he's top 10 material: http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/09000d5d82737021/article/tannehill-waits-for-chance-to-prove-hes-top-10-material?module=HP11_content_stream WHAT????? The Bills have been close to drafting a QB? Where have you been the last three years. Maybe in the fans eyes but the FO has been happy with Captain Checkdown and now Ryan F$tzmoney. The Bills have no intention to take QB with the first round pick. You dont sign your "Franchise QB" to a six year deal and then draft his replacement 8 months later. Maybe they take a QB later on to grow and learn from F$tzy how to get a big pay day from a team desperate to find a QB, but the #10 pick will not be a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Agree 100%. Tannehill has way too much downside for us to waste our #10 on him. I agree that some desperate team will pick him before he should be picked just because there really are only two serious QB's in this draft and they will be long gone before the Bills select. The only QB's to draft in the first round are those who are the 'sure things' and even a healthy Tannehill has a few too many questions and lack of college experience. Now, if he is still there when we pick in the second or third round .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Man, I so hope the bills draft a QB with that 10th pick... so the fans clamoring for him to start get their wish....and then watch him get beaten to death behind that crappy O line everyone thinks is so great. OTOH, if he sits on the bench, he could have McCargo's or Maybins old spots right next to Spiller:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 3 of 4 NFL Network analysts have Tannehill coming off the board BEFORE buffalo picks: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) 3 of 4 NFL Network analysts have Tannehill coming off the board BEFORE buffalo picks: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts WHOOO HOOOO!!!! That means a higher degree of likelihood that we will get a better player at #10 while others are overvaluing a rookie QB prospect out of desperation. This IS good news. Edited March 13, 2012 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) 3 of 4 NFL Network analysts have Tannehill coming off the board BEFORE buffalo picks: http://www.nfl.com/d...012/mock-drafts And all four are wrong about him being drafted before the third round - personally, I'm thinking round four - and still hope the Bills don't touch him!!!! . Edited March 13, 2012 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 To an extent I agree. Fred Jackson turned it up in his 30th year on the planet and perhaps surprised the coaching staff. Many here believed Jackson was a superstar. I was a bit more skeptical. I knew he was good but I didn't know he would produce like he did last year until injuries claimed him again. Spiller was drafted as the heir apparent and I think there were plans to use him more than they did on special teams, WR and RB. Unfortunately those touches didn't materialize but I think they intended him to be more of a day 1 impact player on the field but Fred came on too strong and fought the rookie off and we played from behind a lot reducing RB touches. I agree Spiller wasn't the day 1 starter that I hoped for in that draft but I can say that I am glad that he is on our team. After taking over for Fred he has started showing everyone that he was worth the pick unless you have someone that is so entrenched in their "luxury pick bust" stance that they can't see that the kid has talent. He is just starting to get it going at the NFL level and he still hasn't reached his full potential. It appears that all he needed was touches and time on the field. Fred Jackson was the best player on the team last year and one of the best players in the NFL before he got hurt. He's also someone who has the full, unwavering support of every player on the team who have backed him in public repeatedly. So try supporting your team's best player and starter instead of (wrongly) suggesting last year was a flash in the pan. Oh wait, I forgot, his name isn't Fitzpatrick so your rules of "biatching" don't apply, right? Once again you show your true colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 Cosell: Tannehill throws on the run better than Luck or Griffin With talk around the NFL that Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill could be drafted as high as fourth overall to the Browns, more analysts are talking up Tannehill’s tape. And Greg Cosell of NFL Films has offered up an assessment that gives plenty of reason to like Tannehill’s chances of going very high in next month’s NFL draft. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/cosell-tannehill-throws-on-the-run-better-than-luck-or-griffin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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