BUFFALOKIE Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) My link Edited February 27, 2012 by Stranger in a Strange Land
bbb Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 As a biker- I am sick of dogs chasing after me. There is one house where the dog comes charging out of the yard and up the road after me all the time. I have called Animal Control and the Police many times. If you can't control your dog you shouldn't be a dog owner To be fair, that is a drug sniffing dog..
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2012 Author Posted February 27, 2012 To be fair, that is a drug sniffing dog.. Damn, beat me to it.
DC Tom Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 As a biker- I am sick of dogs chasing after me. There is one house where the dog comes charging out of the yard and up the road after me all the time. I have called Animal Control and the Police many times. If you can't control your dog you shouldn't be a dog owner bull ****. I've lived in three different places in New Jersey, and I've never been attacked by a dog. Telephone poles, yes...not dogs...
plenzmd1 Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 My gripe isn't so much with them on the country roads seeing if they do something stupid it's usually them that gets the worst of it not me. No place for them to really ride other than out in the country and those roads typically don't have shoulders so there is not place for them ot ride. . I ride in the country to train for tri's..while the majority of people are nice and we get along on the road just fine...their are some sick mofo's out there. Can not tell you the number of times people either just lay on their horn, or ride right up on your ass..or pass just as close as they can to make it uncomfortable on the bike. Been called a lot of things as these tough guys pass by(they never stop btw), and have also had all kinds of chit trown at me from windows..now this is over a period of years.. I always ride alone, always as close to the edge of the road as is safe, and always 100% obey all traffic laws...and yes i mean 100%.
RkFast Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) I ride in the country to train for tri's..while the majority of people are nice and we get along on the road just fine...their are some sick mofo's out there. Can not tell you the number of times people either just lay on their horn, or ride right up on your ass..or pass just as close as they can to make it uncomfortable on the bike. Been called a lot of things as these tough guys pass by(they never stop btw), and have also had all kinds of chit trown at me from windows..now this is over a period of years.. I always ride alone, always as close to the edge of the road as is safe, and always 100% obey all traffic laws...and yes i mean 100%. And having also been in this situation, I can say if you think its harmless to come up on a guy on a bike and slam on your horn behind him from 10 feet away, or pass him at 30 MPH faster than hes going 6 inches from his leg its not. It starles the **** out of you and can definitely lead to an accident. And if you think its funny when a rider goes down.....do broken hips, comound leg fractures, broken backs and death seem funny? Becuase those of the types of injuries that are common with serious road cycling wrecks. A guy in a local club here was killed recently upstate. A friend of mine knows a triathlete that got so screwed up from hitting a car that stopped short in front of her, she will never be the same, physically. And I know THREE riders who got hit by cars and then dragged for blocks by drivers who didnt realize what was going on. I really dont want to get all preachy and lecture people here, but the snarky "Ill just hit him, screw him I have a car" type stuff needs to be looked at properly. bull ****. I've lived in three different places in New Jersey, and I've never been attacked by a dog. Telephone poles, yes...not dogs... Lemme guess.... Newark Jersey City Camden Edited February 27, 2012 by RkFast
DC Tom Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 And having also been in this situation, I can say if you think its harmless to come up on a guy on a bike and slam on your horn behind him from 10 feet away, or pass him at 30 MPH faster than hes going 6 inches from his leg its not. It starles the **** out of you and can definitely lead to an accident. I would think that that's kind of the point. Why the hell else would you do that? I really dont want to get all preachy and lecture people here, but the snarky "Ill just hit him, screw him I have a car" type stuff needs to be looked at properly. I would never seriously say that...but I'm not going too far out of my way to avoid the suicidal douchebags, either. If I have a choice between hitting the cyclist running the red light or swerving into oncoming traffic to avoid him, cyclist loses every time.
BuffaloBud Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Attached is a link to an article about a cyclist getting hit and the legal proceeding afterwards. Yes, the article is written by a lawyer with cycling interests. Take it for what it is worth. Linky
Booster4324 Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Here is another article on it. Link The crash occurred midmorning on an open stretch of Highway 50 in Clay County. Motorist Robbie Norton of Cedar Bluff ran into cyclist Jan Morgan of Starkville as Morgan pedaled with a friend along the right side of the road. After stopping and briefly exiting her vehicle, Norton then got back in and ran over Morgan a second time in an apparent effort to pull her vehicle to the side of the road.
BUFFALOTONE Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Same here in Portland. The crazy ones are the people who ride their bike up in the west hills here. And there are a ton of people who do this. All of the roads are narrow, windy, steep roads with no shoulders on them. Not to mention the steep cliffs they could fall down if they happened to fall of the road. I was in Portland last week via Florida. Totally different driving experience. Absolutely beautiful views. Flew into Portland then drove to Astoria, then to Longview Wash and then on to Coos Bay.
Wayne Cubed Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 And having also been in this situation, I can say if you think its harmless to come up on a guy on a bike and slam on your horn behind him from 10 feet away, or pass him at 30 MPH faster than hes going 6 inches from his leg its not. It starles the **** out of you and can definitely lead to an accident. And if you think its funny when a rider goes down.....do broken hips, comound leg fractures, broken backs and death seem funny? Becuase those of the types of injuries that are common with serious road cycling wrecks. A guy in a local club here was killed recently upstate. A friend of mine knows a triathlete that got so screwed up from hitting a car that stopped short in front of her, she will never be the same, physically. And I know THREE riders who got hit by cars and then dragged for blocks by drivers who didnt realize what was going on. I really dont want to get all preachy and lecture people here, but the snarky "Ill just hit him, screw him I have a car" type stuff needs to be looked at properly. As a person who's been hit by a car while riding my bike, the car was trying to make a quick left and beat a light, I can attest to all of this. I won't get all preachy either, because I do obey the rules of the road, but I lived in LA for years and drivers there just do not give a chit about bikers. An old roommate of mine got side swiped by a car, he was in the bike lane, and the guy didn't even stop. I've also been yelled at, things thrown at... all while obeying the rules of the road.
bbb Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 This is an ignorant question on my part, but is it illegal for a car to go into the bike lane? I know I've done this several (OK, many.....Uh, all the time) to get around a slow car or car that is turning left.
DC Tom Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 As a person who's been hit by a car while riding my bike, the car was trying to make a quick left and beat a light, I can attest to all of this. I won't get all preachy either, because I do obey the rules of the road, but I lived in LA for years and drivers there just do not give a chit about bikers. An old roommate of mine got side swiped by a car, he was in the bike lane, and the guy didn't even stop. I've also been yelled at, things thrown at... all while obeying the rules of the road. Curious...were you riding with traffic when that happened? I was hit by a turning vehicle once. That's when I learned that, despite what some people say about riding against traffic being better "because you can see oncoming traffic", it's a good way to get hit. Turning drivers (either making a left, or exiting a driveway onto the street) look towards the traffic. If you're not cycling with the traffic, they never see you.
boyst Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 As a person who's been hit by a car while riding my bike, the car was trying to make a quick left and beat a light, I can attest to all of this. I won't get all preachy either, because I do obey the rules of the road, but I lived in LA for years and drivers there just do not give a chit about bikers. An old roommate of mine got side swiped by a car, he was in the bike lane, and the guy didn't even stop. I've also been yelled at, things thrown at... all while obeying the rules of the road. What I don't think people realize is that there are always going to be jerks. Whether behind the wheel, the tricycle or the shoe.
Wayne Cubed Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Curious...were you riding with traffic when that happened? I was hit by a turning vehicle once. That's when I learned that, despite what some people say about riding against traffic being better "because you can see oncoming traffic", it's a good way to get hit. Turning drivers (either making a left, or exiting a driveway onto the street) look towards the traffic. If you're not cycling with the traffic, they never see you. Yup, I was riding with traffic. The lady, in ever-so-hip toyota prius, was making a left, and I was heading straight on. For some reason or another she didn't see me, probably because she was on her phone, until it was too late. She hit me with the front passenger side of her car. Lucky nothing was broken on my body but I made the mistake of just letting her go without getting any info. My back was messed up for a week or so.
boyst Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Woman struck and killed last night on rural country road while cycling. http://m.the-dispatch.com/article/20120229/news/302299991/1005/cyclist_dies_after_accident_on_ridge_road Edited February 29, 2012 by jboyst62
sullim4 Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 I 100% agree that roughly 80% of bikers have no business being on their bikes. I've been doing a lot of walking/jogging in the last few years as a means to increase exercise. As a pedestrian I actually find cars to be a lot more friendly towards me than bikers. Walking down a pretty steep hill on a sidewalk around Sammamish, it is commonplace for bikers to whizz from behind me at 30-40mph and barely give me clearance. I can't hear them as they don't have a motor combined with the fact that the multiple lanes of cars are making noise. It scares the crap out of me and I feel like it's only a matter of time before I get hit by one of them. As a driver they just plain piss me off. This area provides bikers huge bike lanes and they still camp on the left hand side of them, barely giving me clearance to pass. Yes, I get it, you want to announce to the world that you're "green", cooler than everyone else in your spandex, and you want us uncool, normal people that drive, walk, or take the bus to yield to you at all times. Give me a break.
plenzmd1 Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Curious...were you riding with traffic when that happened? I was hit by a turning vehicle once. That's when I learned that, despite what some people say about riding against traffic being better "because you can see oncoming traffic", it's a good way to get hit. Turning drivers (either making a left, or exiting a driveway onto the street) look towards the traffic. If you're not cycling with the traffic, they never see you. Tom, I have been hit in this same exact scenario..RT 6 in Goochland County VA...risidng with traffic(100% of the time)dude was just trying to beat the light and never saw me coming from the other way. 100% accident on his part..luckily it was a cold day and I had on lots of gear, as I slammed both front and back brakes and slid under his grill. Whole left side of my body had brush burns from shoulder to knee, but walked away from it. Funny as I was not pissed at this guy..it was a pure accident and not done on purpose. Guys who mess with you on the road..those are the idiots i hate..just like I hate the bike nazis who ride in 20 person packs and think they own the road.
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 I 100% agree that roughly 80% of bikers have no business being on their bikes. I've been doing a lot of walking/jogging in the last few years as a means to increase exercise. As a pedestrian I actually find cars to be a lot more friendly towards me than bikers. Walking down a pretty steep hill on a sidewalk around Sammamish, it is commonplace for bikers to whizz from behind me at 30-40mph and barely give me clearance. I can't hear them as they don't have a motor combined with the fact that the multiple lanes of cars are making noise. It scares the crap out of me and I feel like it's only a matter of time before I get hit by one of them. As a driver they just plain piss me off. This area provides bikers huge bike lanes and they still camp on the left hand side of them, barely giving me clearance to pass. Yes, I get it, you want to announce to the world that you're "green", cooler than everyone else in your spandex, and you want us uncool, normal people that drive, walk, or take the bus to yield to you at all times. Give me a break. Then you see a person on a bike going against the grain of traffic! No doubt and God forbid a driver ever clipped one... The burden would be on the driver. Curious...were you riding with traffic when that happened? I was hit by a turning vehicle once. That's when I learned that, despite what some people say about riding against traffic being better "because you can see oncoming traffic", it's a good way to get hit. Turning drivers (either making a left, or exiting a driveway onto the street) look towards the traffic. If you're not cycling with the traffic, they never see you. I was wondering about that... I see a lot of bikers riding against traffic. Hike against traffic, NOT bike!
Chef Jim Posted February 29, 2012 Author Posted February 29, 2012 As a person who's been hit by a car while riding my bike, the car was trying to make a quick left and beat a light, I can attest to all of this. I won't get all preachy either, because I do obey the rules of the road, but I lived in LA for years and drivers there just do not give a chit about bikers. An old roommate of mine got side swiped by a car, he was in the bike lane, and the guy didn't even stop. I've also been yelled at, things thrown at... all while obeying the rules of the road. Well I live in SF now and bikers here don't give a **** about pedestrians and car drivers. They "rule" the road here. Bike ridership has increased 70% in the short three years I've been here. And it's not that car drivers don't give a **** about bikers in LA it's because LA was designed around the automobile.
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