boyst Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 This is the horn I want to get.... http://www.hornblasters.com/ I am getting one of them actually this year.
Just Jack Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 I am getting one of them actually this year. Post a video on the youtubes so we can hear how loud it is once you get in installed.
BuffaloBud Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Couldn't say it any better. Most cyclists hate the folks your descibing as well. In fact, there is a pretty specific way of doing things and traffic laws and interaction with cars is a serious matter. Im not in the mood to be riding in a paceline at 25 MPH and have me and 5 of my friends taken out by a truck becuase the schmuck taking the pull off the front decided to blow a light.. But the thing is....most car drivers expect all cyclists to obey the rules to a "T" 100% of the time. Alternatively, most cyclists expect car drivers to obey the rules to a "T" 100% of the time. That....will never happen. Humans are funny about that "100% correct behavior all the time" thing. It typically doesnt sit well. So we do out best. For example.....If i happen to be spaced out and BSing with two friends and we are three abreast and Im holding you up? Give a short toot on your horn and Ill be happy to snap to it, alert those in front of me "CAR BACK" and we will then drop back into a single file line. Then you can pass and we can all enjoy our day. Or...if Im riding along and youre making a left without your signal on and you bounce out in front of me becuase darnit...you just didnt know I was there because you were tuning your radio or chatting with your passenger? Ill just slow on down and let you go in front of me, or behind me, whichever works best. See how that works? Was that so hard? And stojan....you DO realize that those "tough" football players you love so much wear spandex knickers, right?
bbb Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 In this area, most cyclists are of the type you say most cyclists hate. There's certain roads I don't take anymore (Beach Drive, for example), because maybe 9 out of 10 cyclists are self-righteous pricks who don't realize "share the road" works both ways. And downtown during morning rush hour can be downright hazardous if you're a pedestrian, for just the behavior that Chef described above (I once fed a cyclist an elbow who ran a red light and nearly wiped me and two other people out in the crosswalk. In front of a traffic cop. Cop cited the cyclist, not me.) Another time, I saw and idiot pass a left-turning car on the left, then run a red light, then swerve into oncoming traffic, in about a 50 yard stretch of road (Beach Drive, of course). The other one out of ten, though...usually a pleasure to share the road with. I listen to Tony Kornheiser every day and he was going off on the DC bikers last year, and Lance got in on the squabble.
Doc Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Most cyclists hate the folks your descibing as well. In fact, there is a pretty specific way of doing things and traffic laws and interaction with cars is a serious matter. Im not in the mood to be riding in a paceline at 25 MPH and have me and 5 of my friends taken out by a truck becuase the schmuck taking the pull off the front decided to blow a light.. But the thing is....most car drivers expect all cyclists to obey the rules to a "T" 100% of the time. Alternatively, most cyclists expect car drivers to obey the rules to a "T" 100% of the time. That....will never happen. Humans are funny about that "100% correct behavior all the time" thing. It typically doesnt sit well. So we do out best. For example.....If i happen to be spaced out and BSing with two friends and we are three abreast and Im holding you up? Give a short toot on your horn and Ill be happy to snap to it, alert those in front of me "CAR BACK" and we will then drop back into a single file line. Then you can pass and we can all enjoy our day. Or...if Im riding along and youre making a left without your signal on and you bounce out in front of me becuase darnit...you just didnt know I was there because you were tuning your radio or chatting with your passenger? Ill just slow on down and let you go in front of me, or behind me, whichever works best. See how that works? Was that so hard? And stojan....you DO realize that those "tough" football players you love so much wear spandex knickers, right? My motto is "I have the bigger vehicle, I have the right of way." That's not to say I don't give cyclists a wide berth whenever I can, or that I ignore traffic rules when it comes to them. But when you're in the smaller vehicle, it behooves you to follow the traffic laws to a "T" and to expect danger at every turn.
Chef Jim Posted February 26, 2012 Author Posted February 26, 2012 For example.....If i happen to be spaced out and BSing with two friends and we are three abreast and Im holding you up? Give a short toot on your horn and Ill be happy to snap to it, alert those in front of me "CAR BACK" and we will then drop back into a single file line. Why should I have to toot my horn to get you idiots going three abreast to move over? You have mirrors right? If so you should be aware of your surroundings. Quite funny you B word about a person in car chatting with a passenger but it's quite alright for you to be BSing with your friends. Hypocrite.
GaryPinC Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 My biggest pet peeve is when bikers ride on the road as if they are cars, but then buzz through red lights, etc., as if the rules didn't apply to them. They can't have it both ways. If you ride your bike on the road, then you need to follow all of the rules. As long as they slow down, stop as needed to respect pedestrians/cross traffic I'm ok with it. You ever been in rush hour traffic intersection behind a stopped cyclist with no bike lane, 10 cars behind you, ten more in the lane next to you and everybody clamoring to get through the intersection? I'd rather the bicyclist sneak safely through, get up to speed and put some distance between us. And if he's turning off even better. My motto is "I have the bigger vehicle, I have the right of way." That's not to say I don't give cyclists a wide berth whenever I can, or that I ignore traffic rules when it comes to them. But when you're in the smaller vehicle, it behooves you to follow the traffic laws to a "T" and to expect danger at every turn. This is the reality of the road, IMO, and the cyclists who refuse to acknowledge this will end up lying in a ditch eventually. I would like to see more roads with bike lanes. Roads around me would only require a couple of feet added to the shoulder and that would reduce traffic tie-ups and concentrate the bicyclists. While that could create new traffic problems, if it helps reduce bicyclists on other roads and as a motorist I know I'll run into them on the bike-lane road I think it would be a better situation. Bikes have the right to use the roads but in doing so are creating a hazardous situation. As the far slower and vulnerable vehicle it's on them to ride in as safe a manner as possible. I also hate the bike clubs who ride in groups of 15 or more and tie up 50-200 yds of road. They should cluster in small groups (2-4) so cars can safely get around them.
RkFast Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Why should I have to toot my horn to get you idiots going three abreast to move over? You have mirrors right? If so you should be aware of your surroundings. Quite funny you B word about a person in car chatting with a passenger but it's quite alright for you to be BSing with your friends. Hypocrite. Im not falling for your bull **** this time. In this area, most cyclists are of the type you say most cyclists hate. There's certain roads I don't take anymore (Beach Drive, for example), because maybe 9 out of 10 cyclists are self-righteous pricks who don't realize "share the road" works both ways. And downtown during morning rush hour can be downright hazardous if you're a pedestrian, for just the behavior that Chef described above (I once fed a cyclist an elbow who ran a red light and nearly wiped me and two other people out in the crosswalk. In front of a traffic cop. Cop cited the cyclist, not me.) Another time, I saw and idiot pass a left-turning car on the left, then run a red light, then swerve into oncoming traffic, in about a 50 yard stretch of road (Beach Drive, of course). The other one out of ten, though...usually a pleasure to share the road with. A lot of it is becuase they dont know any better. They buy bikes and hit the road without talking to anyone or doing any kind of training or reading up on how riding in traffic works. Its dangerous. I had words with a rider you describe once. Was on a charity century ride and he was all over the damned place. Rolled up next to him and told him to learn the rules of riding in traffic or get the !@#$ off the bike. !@#$s like that give all cyclists a bad name and increase the anomosity between car and biker. I dont need that....I have enough of a hard time making sure I dont wind up as a hood ornament. The only thing that torques me about this conversation is the notion by some that cyclists dont "belong." That not true, nor is that mindset fair.
Chef Jim Posted February 26, 2012 Author Posted February 26, 2012 Im not falling for your bull **** this time. A lot of it is becuase they dont know any better. They buy bikes and hit the road without talking to anyone or doing any kind of training or reading up on how riding in traffic works. Its dangerous. I had words with a rider you describe once. Was on a charity century ride and he was all over the damned place. Rolled up next to him and told him to learn the rules of riding in traffic or get the !@#$ off the bike. !@#$s like that give all cyclists a bad name and increase the anomosity between car and biker. I dont need that....I have enough of a hard time making sure I dont wind up as a hood ornament. The only thing that torques me about this conversation is the notion by some that cyclists dont "belong." That not true, nor is that mindset fair. Billshit?? You ride three abreast and block the road and expect me to have to toot my horn to get around you?? !@#$ you you arrogant bastard. Why not be a little more aware of your surroundings.
Pete Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 My motto is "I have the bigger vehicle, I have the right of way." My biking motto towards drivers who ignore bikers right of way is "I have a better lawyer"
Booster4324 Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Billshit?? You ride three abreast and block the road and expect me to have to toot my horn to get around you?? !@#$ you you arrogant bastard. Why not be a little more aware of your surroundings. Wow, that is pretty rude. Are you off your meds?
Taro T Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 My biking motto towards drivers who ignore bikers right of way is "I have a better lawyer" I'm certain your heirs will appreciate that after they scrape you and your bike off the pavement.
boyst Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 My biking motto towards drivers who ignore bikers right of way is "I have a better lawyer" My f350 would lood pretty badass with a hippy dippy bike rider as a hood ornament.
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2012 Author Posted February 27, 2012 Wow, that is pretty rude. Are you off your meds? Yes. My biking motto towards drivers who ignore bikers right of way is "I have a better lawyer" How often do you ride your bike stoned?
Fan in San Diego Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) One last addition by me. I rented a Harley Electroglide a few years ago and that sucker was heavy. I was struggling with it in bumper to bumper traffic in Del Mar. I had to take the bike lane to avoid rear ending a car. It was funny the biker nazi's were giving me an earful, it was great just dropping F bombs and flipping them the bird. Share the bike lane with bikers! Edited February 27, 2012 by Fan in San Diego
BillsFanNC Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 There are a lot of cyclists here in the Triangle, they typically travel in large groups on twisting, turning hilly roads. I've come up on packs of 10 to 20 or more riders around blind curves more times than I can remember. This incident a few years back caused quite an uproar around here and acutally put the spotlight on the local cycling community and how often the don't obey the rules of the road. Come to think of it, I don't see the large packs of riders quite as often as I used to probably because of this. Link
shrader Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 I'm certain your heirs will appreciate that after they scrape you and your bike off the pavement. Yeah, it's completely idiotic. There are plenty of times where I'm walking across streets and I see cars blow through red lights (it's a huge issue out here in Boston). I may have the right of way, but there's no way I'm stepping out into that crosswalk until I know that the car has stopped. I may be in the right, but I'm not winning that collision. The biker sure as hell isn't either.
Doc Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 There are a lot of cyclists here in the Triangle, they typically travel in large groups on twisting, turning hilly roads. I've come up on packs of 10 to 20 or more riders around blind curves more times than I can remember. This incident a few years back caused quite an uproar around here and acutally put the spotlight on the local cycling community and how often the don't obey the rules of the road. Come to think of it, I don't see the large packs of riders quite as often as I used to probably because of this. Link Unfortunately, it takes a tragedy for people to change their behavior. And also unfortunately, many go back to the same behavior until the next tragedy.
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2012 Author Posted February 27, 2012 There are a lot of cyclists here in the Triangle, they typically travel in large groups on twisting, turning hilly roads. I've come up on packs of 10 to 20 or more riders around blind curves more times than I can remember. This incident a few years back caused quite an uproar around here and acutally put the spotlight on the local cycling community and how often the don't obey the rules of the road. Come to think of it, I don't see the large packs of riders quite as often as I used to probably because of this. Link My gripe isn't so much with them on the country roads seeing if they do something stupid it's usually them that gets the worst of it not me. No place for them to really ride other than out in the country and those roads typically don't have shoulders so there is not place for them ot ride. My gripe is them in the city and how they don't even come close to following the rules. They rule the roads here and the example of my wife and I almost getting hit in the crosswalk just this weekend by someone who didn't even acknowledge us is a perfect example. And good luck trying to cross the street during Critical Mass. Ok we get it you're better than me on your non-carbon spewing bike. Get over yourself.
Pete Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 As a biker- I am sick of dogs chasing after me. There is one house where the dog comes charging out of the yard and up the road after me all the time. I have called Animal Control and the Police many times. If you can't control your dog you shouldn't be a dog owner
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