Buddy doesn't like Top DEs Mock

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On GR Chris Brown said he wasn't interested in the the Top DEs and might look into them in the 2 - 4 rounds, so Getting A DT who can also play End might be how they go.

 

1. Michael Brockers LSU 6'6" 306 DE34 DT43 DE43

 

"In retaining his cat-quick agility despite adding strength and mass, Brockers boasts an athletic skill-set that no other defensive tackle in the 2012 draft can match. Brockers seemed to play at his best in big games, recording four tackles (including three for loss) and a sack against Mississippi State, three tackles and a tackle for loss against Florida, five tackles against Arkansas, six tackles in the SEC Championship Game against Georgia, including two for loss, as well as a forced fumble and a pass broken up. Brockers also recorded a tackle for loss and blocked an Alabama field goal in the early second quarter that kept the Crimson Tide's lead at just 3-0. For the year he recorded 54 tackles, including 10 tackles for loss and two sacks. He was named to the Second Team All-SEC squad. Brockers' unmatched combination of size, athleticism, strength and youth is tantalizing, however. He played with great passion and the awareness of a four-year starter in 2011. Capable of starring as a three-technique defensive tackle or holding the point as a five technique defensive end, Brockers will be highly valued by 4-3 and 3-4 team." NFL Scout Rob Rang

 

2. Chase Minnifield Virginia 6'0" 188 CB

 

"Narrow-framed with a wiry build, long arms and thin legs, Minnifield is an instinctive, competitive press-zone corner who does not hesitate to support the run and has terrific ball skills. Shows timing, anticipation and coordination to get his hands on a lot of throws and is a good leaper with the ability to highpoint interceptions. Inconsistent combatant at the line, rises in his pedal and struggles with burners (average closing burst and recovery speed) but has NFL bloodlines, is passionate about the game and works at his craft." Nolan Nawrocki

 

3. Cam Johnson Virginia 6'3" 270 DE43 OLB34

 

"Johnson has been a force at DE for the Cavaliers during the past two seasons after initially playing OLB his first two years, including getting some action as a true freshman in 2008. Johnson consistently generated a pass rush, and gave a robust and quality effort against the run. Johnson's stats were 40 tackles, 5 TFLs, 2 sacks and 1 pass defensed in 2009, 53/14/6/4 in 2010, and 30/11/4/1 in 2011." Brad Noel

 

4. Michael Egnew Missouri 6'5" 242 TE

 

"A tall, long, athletic pass catcher who has the frame to continue to get even bigger. However, as of now, he looks thin through his base and legs. He doesn't play as a traditional tight end, and for the most part lines-up in the slot on a regular basis from a two-point stance and is asked to work nearly exclusively as an "off the line Y. He possesses impressive coordination and body control for his size, gets into his route well for his size, has a nice feel for zone coverage in the pass game and works himself well into soft spots underneath. Is a massive target to throw at, extends his arms well when covered up and can pluck routinely off his frame. He possesses average speed down the field and has the ability to run away from backers across the field. Exhibits solid ball skills and body control when asked to go up and make a play on the football at its highest point. Can be a major asset in the red zone." Wes Bunting

 

4. Emmanuel Acho Texas 6'2" 240 OLB43 SILB

 

"Athletic veteran mike backer is a brother of Sam Acho, a 2011 4th round pick by Arizona; well-built with very good speed and range; also reads the play well, does a nice job flowing through the traffic and is a rock-solid tackler; had 87 tackles in 2010; can also get into the backfield where he had 3 sacks and 9 other tackles for loss. Is also reasonably comfortable in coverage where he had a pick and 6 pass breakups last season; versatile player could also fit at MLB and is a willing special teams’ contributor; has been durable the past couple of seasons, good student and character player." Colin Lindsay

 

5. Ladarius Green Louisiana-Lafayette 6'6" 230 TE

 

"Very quick, fluid release considering his tall frame, both from two and three-point stances. Able to shake off press coverage before getting into route. Strong hands to snatch passes from the air whether extending for high throws, reaching for wide ones, or keeping hands away from his body while facing the quarterback. Holds onto receptions with defenders draped on him. Combines length and relatively quick feet for his size to be effective whether running short option routes or stretching the field vertically. Reliable jump-ball target, creates separation by extending arm, owns strong hands, vertical, and height to make a play. After the Catch: Tough to catch once in the open field due to good speed and long strides. Smaller defenders bounce off him, yet he can freeze safeties with a quick shake to get past them." Chad Reuter

 

5. Chris Rainey Florida 5'8" 176 WR

 

"Perhaps the most explosive cutting ability and straight-line speed of any athlete in the 2012 draft. Can make defenders look silly due to his lateral agility and sudden acceleration. Versatile. Saw time as a running back, receiver, punt returner and kick returner for the Gators. Looks natural catching the ball out of the backfield and has shown the ability to track the ball over his shoulder and snatch passes outside of his frame. Has struggled a bit with durability over his career but is willing to play with pain. Relishes his opportunities on special teams but is not just a return specialist. Explosive burst led to his breaking the school and SEC record with six blocked punts." NFL draft Scout

 

6. Levy Adcock Oklahoma State 6'5" 322 ROT LOT (have no idea how he fell this far but I'll take em, has been a late first to mid second rounder )

 

"Natural athleticism shows in pass protection. Good knee bend and fluid lateral movement in his slide, mirrors any college end. Maintains balance throughout slide, allowing him to shut down inside lane. Willing to attack his man instead of waiting on him, will punch multiple times. Picks up edge blitzers well; does not panic, simply changes angle needed to pick them up while maintaining bend or uses his length to hold off defender until he gets his feet underneath him. Stronger ends get under his pads a bit but anchors after a step or two. Run Blocking: Not a dominating run blocker, but rarely gets beat with quickness or pushed back, either. Effective cut-blocker on the back side. Comes off the ball strong and low from a three-point stance, moves to linebacker if lineman is neutralized. Plays with some attitude, will punch on initial contact and extend after the whistle to show he means business. Lacks the elite foot quickness to consistently get outside shoulder of defender to seal edge on plays run to his side." Chad Reuter

 

7.Tyrone Crawford Boise State 6'4" 278 DE43 DE34

 

"Looks the part with a strong, defined frame and good length (33" arms, 9" hands). Has good quickness and athleticism for his size. Coordinated with smooth movement skills. High effort rusher and works through the whistle. Relentless worker, fighting off blocks and battling to the ballcarrier. Has strong hands and holds his own at the point of attack. Stout anchor when he plays low to the ground. Has strong practice habits and coaches talk highly of his work ethic. Has been productive at the FBS-level with a combined 27.0 tackles for loss and 13.5 sacks the past two seasons. Offers some scheme versatility. Similar to Pernell McPhee, Baltimore Ravens." Dane Brugler

Edited February 24, 2012 by Buffalo Barbarian

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Man no love today.

[D521646]

Nix is posturing, IMO. You're damned right they're picking a DE at 10, I'd bet my house on it.

 

Tim-

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Nix is posturing, IMO. You're damned right they're picking a DE at 10, I'd bet my house on it.

 

Tim-

You might be living under a bridge soon

[Estelle Getty]

Nix is posturing, IMO. You're damned right they're picking a DE at 10, I'd bet my house on it.

 

Tim-

 

I don't think posturing is in his vocab. This is kinda sad if they really think DE is not our top need. It is unlikely we will sign a top tier DE free agent. Here is to hoping something got lost in translation.

[KollegeStudnet]

Nix is posturing, IMO. You're damned right they're picking a DE at 10, I'd bet my house on it.

 

Tim-

 

Depends on who is available at 10. The past three seasons Chix has picked the BPA...could be DE or any other position! .

 

Edit: please don't bet your house

Edited February 24, 2012 by KollegeStudnet

[thewildrabbit]

You might be living under a bridge soon

 

Particularly if the Bills don't re sign Bell or Johnson

 

 

 

Brockers is listed as a DT all the way...man It would be nice if the Bills drafted for the O line (Early) like they have for that D line- Troup-Carrington- Darius

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I don't think posturing is in his vocab. This is kinda sad if they really think DE is not our top need. It is unlikely we will sign a top tier DE free agent. Here is to hoping something got lost in translation.

Watched the interview as well and he never said that DE wasn't our top need (didn't say what it was, which he shouldn't) He just said that the DEs at 10 might not be worth that spot and that there is good depth this year that normally wouldn't be there in the latter rounds.

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

Nix is posturing, IMO. You're damned right they're picking a DE at 10, I'd bet my house on it.

 

Tim-

No pix of the house ??

[DanInUticaTampa]

I don't think posturing is in his vocab. This is kinda sad if they really think DE is not our top need. It is unlikely we will sign a top tier DE free agent. Here is to hoping something got lost in translation.

 

To be fair, there really aren't any exciting des this year.

[1B4IDie]

Man no love today.

 

I love me some Emanuel Acho in the 3rd or 4th.

I wanted Sam Acho in the 4th last year. That would have been a great pick over Searcy.

 

Also Nix and I are agreement, I don't think Ingram or Coples would have been 1st rounders in the 2011 draft.

 

Justin Houston went in the 3rd and I'd argue he is a better prospect than Coples or Ingram.

 

The 2012 draft is really weak at 4-3 DE.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Particularly if the Bills don't re sign Bell or Johnson

 

 

 

Brockers is listed as a DT all the way...man It would be nice if the Bills drafted for the O line (Early) like they have for that D line- Troup-Carrington- Darius

That's why I have Reiff in my sig mock, a mauler who fits in with the rest of our guys. May not be the best pass blocker but still good and with our short dropbacks he will be more than adequate.

[NoSaint]

Nix is posturing, IMO. You're damned right they're picking a DE at 10, I'd bet my house on it.

 

Tim-

 

I accept this bet, but as I rent, will counter with offering a gentlemans congratulations if you in fact do win. where is this house? is it nice? im just curious since its gotta be like a 50-50 bet.

[papazoid]

On GR Chris Brown said he wasn't interested in the the Top DEs and might look into them in the 2 - 4 rounds, so Getting A DT who can also play End might be how they go.

 

1. Michael Brockers LSU 6'6" 306 DE34 DT43 DE43

 

"In retaining his cat-quick agility despite adding strength and mass, Brockers boasts an athletic skill-set that no other defensive tackle in the 2012 draft can match. Brockers seemed to play at his best in big games, recording four tackles (including three for loss) and a sack against Mississippi State, three tackles and a tackle for loss against Florida, five tackles against Arkansas, six tackles in the SEC Championship Game against Georgia, including two for loss, as well as a forced fumble and a pass broken up. Brockers also recorded a tackle for loss and blocked an Alabama field goal in the early second quarter that kept the Crimson Tide's lead at just 3-0. For the year he recorded 54 tackles, including 10 tackles for loss and two sacks. He was named to the Second Team All-SEC squad. Brockers' unmatched combination of size, athleticism, strength and youth is tantalizing, however. He played with great passion and the awareness of a four-year starter in 2011. Capable of starring as a three-technique defensive tackle or holding the point as a five technique defensive end, Brockers will be highly valued by 4-3 and 3-4 team." NFL Scout Rob Rang

 

2. Chase Minnifield Virginia 6'0" 188 CB

 

"Narrow-framed with a wiry build, long arms and thin legs, Minnifield is an instinctive, competitive press-zone corner who does not hesitate to support the run and has terrific ball skills. Shows timing, anticipation and coordination to get his hands on a lot of throws and is a good leaper with the ability to highpoint interceptions. Inconsistent combatant at the line, rises in his pedal and struggles with burners (average closing burst and recovery speed) but has NFL bloodlines, is passionate about the game and works at his craft." Nolan Nawrocki

 

3. Cam Johnson Virginia 6'3" 270 DE43 OLB34

 

"Johnson has been a force at DE for the Cavaliers during the past two seasons after initially playing OLB his first two years, including getting some action as a true freshman in 2008. Johnson consistently generated a pass rush, and gave a robust and quality effort against the run. Johnson's stats were 40 tackles, 5 TFLs, 2 sacks and 1 pass defensed in 2009, 53/14/6/4 in 2010, and 30/11/4/1 in 2011." Brad Noel

 

4. Michael Egnew Missouri 6'5" 242 TE

 

"A tall, long, athletic pass catcher who has the frame to continue to get even bigger. However, as of now, he looks thin through his base and legs. He doesn't play as a traditional tight end, and for the most part lines-up in the slot on a regular basis from a two-point stance and is asked to work nearly exclusively as an "off the line Y. He possesses impressive coordination and body control for his size, gets into his route well for his size, has a nice feel for zone coverage in the pass game and works himself well into soft spots underneath. Is a massive target to throw at, extends his arms well when covered up and can pluck routinely off his frame. He possesses average speed down the field and has the ability to run away from backers across the field. Exhibits solid ball skills and body control when asked to go up and make a play on the football at its highest point. Can be a major asset in the red zone." Wes Bunting

 

4. Emmanuel Acho Texas 6'2" 240 OLB43 SILB

 

"Athletic veteran mike backer is a brother of Sam Acho, a 2011 4th round pick by Arizona; well-built with very good speed and range; also reads the play well, does a nice job flowing through the traffic and is a rock-solid tackler; had 87 tackles in 2010; can also get into the backfield where he had 3 sacks and 9 other tackles for loss. Is also reasonably comfortable in coverage where he had a pick and 6 pass breakups last season; versatile player could also fit at MLB and is a willing special teams’ contributor; has been durable the past couple of seasons, good student and character player." Colin Lindsay

 

5. Ladarius Green Louisiana-Lafayette 6'6" 230 TE

 

"Very quick, fluid release considering his tall frame, both from two and three-point stances. Able to shake off press coverage before getting into route. Strong hands to snatch passes from the air whether extending for high throws, reaching for wide ones, or keeping hands away from his body while facing the quarterback. Holds onto receptions with defenders draped on him. Combines length and relatively quick feet for his size to be effective whether running short option routes or stretching the field vertically. Reliable jump-ball target, creates separation by extending arm, owns strong hands, vertical, and height to make a play. After the Catch: Tough to catch once in the open field due to good speed and long strides. Smaller defenders bounce off him, yet he can freeze safeties with a quick shake to get past them." Chad Reuter

 

5. Chris Rainey Florida 5'8" 176 WR

 

"Perhaps the most explosive cutting ability and straight-line speed of any athlete in the 2012 draft. Can make defenders look silly due to his lateral agility and sudden acceleration. Versatile. Saw time as a running back, receiver, punt returner and kick returner for the Gators. Looks natural catching the ball out of the backfield and has shown the ability to track the ball over his shoulder and snatch passes outside of his frame. Has struggled a bit with durability over his career but is willing to play with pain. Relishes his opportunities on special teams but is not just a return specialist. Explosive burst led to his breaking the school and SEC record with six blocked punts." NFL draft Scout

 

6. Levy Adcock Oklahoma State 6'5" 322 ROT LOT (have no idea how he fell this far but I'll take em, has been a late first to mid second rounder )

 

"Natural athleticism shows in pass protection. Good knee bend and fluid lateral movement in his slide, mirrors any college end. Maintains balance throughout slide, allowing him to shut down inside lane. Willing to attack his man instead of waiting on him, will punch multiple times. Picks up edge blitzers well; does not panic, simply changes angle needed to pick them up while maintaining bend or uses his length to hold off defender until he gets his feet underneath him. Stronger ends get under his pads a bit but anchors after a step or two. Run Blocking: Not a dominating run blocker, but rarely gets beat with quickness or pushed back, either. Effective cut-blocker on the back side. Comes off the ball strong and low from a three-point stance, moves to linebacker if lineman is neutralized. Plays with some attitude, will punch on initial contact and extend after the whistle to show he means business. Lacks the elite foot quickness to consistently get outside shoulder of defender to seal edge on plays run to his side." Chad Reuter

 

7.Tyrone Crawford Boise State 6'4" 278 DE43 DE34

 

"Looks the part with a strong, defined frame and good length (33" arms, 9" hands). Has good quickness and athleticism for his size. Coordinated with smooth movement skills. High effort rusher and works through the whistle. Relentless worker, fighting off blocks and battling to the ballcarrier. Has strong hands and holds his own at the point of attack. Stout anchor when he plays low to the ground. Has strong practice habits and coaches talk highly of his work ethic. Has been productive at the FBS-level with a combined 27.0 tackles for loss and 13.5 sacks the past two seasons. Offers some scheme versatility. Similar to Pernell McPhee, Baltimore Ravens." Dane Brugler

 

you forgot Devon Still

[bouds]

That's not what he said.

 

Chris Brown asked Nix his thoughts on the draft not having much depth at the DE position. Buddy disagreed, felt this draft was deep at DE, but not at the top of the draft. Nix feels that depth at DE exists in the middle rounds, starting in the 2nd, not much depth at the top, not many in the top 10.

 

Didn't say he wasn't interested.

 

Edit: Brockers is a pipe dream, they won't be taking another DT. He can't play end in a 4-3, Chan has stressed getting a 4-3 DE not a tweener. Mock an offensive tackle, CB, or WR because those will the targets.

Edited February 24, 2012 by bouds

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I love me some Emanuel Acho in the 3rd or 4th.

I wanted Sam Acho in the 4th last year. That would have been a great pick over Searcy.

 

Also Nix and I are agreement, I don't think Ingram or Coples would have been 1st rounders in the 2011 draft.

 

Justin Houston went in the 3rd and I'd argue he is a better prospect than Coples or Ingram.

 

The 2012 draft is really weak at 4-3 DE.

Acho was very powerful in college and started 10 games for the Cards with 7 sacks and 40 tackles. Sure would have helped our OLB pass rush last year and we wouldn't have wasted 2 yrs in switching to a 34 now that we are going back to a 43.

 

you forgot Devon Still

Actually was going with Still at 1 but just think Brockers is better and can rush the QB in our "Nascar" package.

 

That's not what he said.

 

Chris Brown asked Nix his thoughts on the draft not having much depth at the DE position. Buddy disagreed, felt this draft was deep at DE, but not at the top of the draft. Nix feels that depth at DE exists in the middle rounds, starting in the 2nd, not much depth at the top, not many in the top 10.

 

Didn't say he wasn't interested.

 

Edit: Brockers is a pipe dream, they won't be taking another DT. He can't play end in a 4-3, Chan has stressed getting a 4-3 DE not a tweener. Mock an offensive tackle, CB, or WR because those will the targets.

isn't that what I said?

[BillsVet]

Buffalo doesn't need any 7 or 9 tech DE's at the top of the draft. They need depth at the position because their starters will be perennial pro-bowl DE's Chris Kelsay and Shawne "IR" Merriman.

 

Unless of course they've set their sights on someone in UFA who'll be their RDE and can get to the QB more than once in a blue moon. And this concept of drafting a DT who weighs 300+ to play DE in a 40 front is mind-numbing.

[bouds]

isn't that what I said?

 

No

 

I'm sure if the top DE on their board is there they'll draft him, which means he is interested in the top DE's, whatever that means. But there may only be one guy they like, so the real news is that they don't have many first round grades on these top DEs.

 

It's largely semantics, but it's important to not throw out the possibility of a DE. Maybe they feel Coples stinks, and that Ingram is the top guy, or Upshaw.

Edited February 24, 2012 by bouds

[Buffalo Barbarian]

No

 

I'm sure if the top DE on their board is there they'll draft him, which means he is interested in the top DE's, whatever that means. But there may only be one guy they like, so the real news is that they don't have many first round grades on these top DEs.

 

It's largely semantics, but it's important to not throw out the possibility of a DE. Maybe they feel Coples stinks, and that Ingram is the top guy, or Upshaw.

Maybe I shouldn't have said not interested but he definitely said that the top DEs might not worth the ten spot.

 

Ingram yes, no thanks to Coples and Upshaw

[BigBuff423]

I believe Nix is telling the truth....he's said getting a DE in FA and a WR in FA are his FA priorities, personally I believe Nix and that he goes DE and WR in FA while hoping to land a guy like Upshaw to bolster their LB core who can also put his hand on the ground, but hey who knows...