B-Man Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Hoover was president for over 3 years of the Depression, that goes way over the limit of what B says these things should last. And the depression of the 1890s saw well over six years of unemployment at higher than 8% http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/whitten.panic.1893 Also, are you suggesting e should go on a WW2 level of stimulus spending spree? I know its a waste of time, but what the hell, I've got a few to waste.....lol I'll use small sentences for you. You gave examples of 2 Depressions We, were in a Recession...........psssst, they're not the same thing. Our latest Recession ended (per U.S. Government stats) in June of 2009. There are many historical references that show how long it takes for us to recover from a recession , we are now in a prolonged recovery. The current administration's economic efforts have had little effect, and perhaps even lengthened our return. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The unemployment rate in California is still around 11 %. I was an adult during the Carter recession and this is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 I know its a waste of time, but what the hell, I've got a few to waste.....lol I'll use small sentences for you. You gave examples of 2 Depressions We, were in a Recession...........psssst, they're not the same thing. Our latest Recession ended (per U.S. Government stats) in June of 2009. There are many historical references that show how long it takes for us to recover from a recession , we are now in a prolonged recovery. The current administration's economic efforts have had little effect, and perhaps even lengthened our return. . You sure are wasting time with your total ignorance. Tell us, jack ass, what actions Obama could have taken that would have created more employment. You say he "perhaps" lengthened the situation, I'd love to hear how that is so. Come on, let's hear. You do realize--ya right--that the government's built in institutions--new deal era--and deficits kept this recession as a recession, instead of a depression? Or should the government have fought deficits with more budget cuts? I'll just leave it there, you made some stupid assertions, I'm calling you on it, let's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I know its a waste of time, but what the hell, I've got a few to waste.....lol I'll use small sentences for you. You gave examples of 2 Depressions We, were in a Recession...........psssst, they're not the same thing. Our latest Recession ended (per U.S. Government stats) in June of 2009. There are many historical references that show how long it takes for us to recover from a recession , we are now in a prolonged recovery. The current administration's economic efforts have had little effect, and perhaps even lengthened our return. . All recessions are the same- this message is brought to you by the letters V, W, U, and L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 And DiN, where did I say that if under Romney it would be at 2% or for that matter anything that could be misconstrued that way? I'll tell you, nowhere. What I have CONSISTENTLY said over and over is with a president who actually has a basic understanding of the free market economy, that with less regulations, a more pro business relationship with the business community, more dealings with our Emerging market partners and corporate tax reform, that the recovery would be better than this anemic piece of **** of an economy that we have today. I mean for crying out loud, we are growing at 2.5% GDP, that would even suck if we had already recovered. Considering the depth of the hole we are inright now, we should be experiencing much better growth than we are 3 years into the So, Obama should be doing much better than the Bush years? Bush didn't have the housing crisis to deal with, yet Obama is suppose to do way better? Come on Mr Objective! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You sure are wasting time with your total ignorance. Tell us, jack ass, what actions Obama could have taken that would have created more employment. You say he "perhaps" lengthened the situation, I'd love to hear how that is so. Come on, let's hear. You do realize--ya right--that the government's built in institutions--new deal era--and deficits kept this recession as a recession, instead of a depression? Or should the government have fought deficits with more budget cuts? I'll just leave it there, you made some stupid assertions, I'm calling you on it, let's Well, if you are still alive after drinking all those gallons of obama cream then maybe you would understand that if he wasn't the most business unfriendly president that I know of, maybe we would be doing better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatbillsfan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I didn't even have to scent the bait. The guy that is a heartbeat away from the presidency said this: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/joebiden409178.html Is the old hole you were hiding in going to still be sufficient? What the hell does a Joe Biden quote have to do with the length of the Great Depression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 What the hell does a Joe Biden quote have to do with the length of the Great Depression? A little more sense as you and your twin Dave make on a daily basis. Joe Biden was an Obama decision. If he's capable of a decision like that, what makes you think his other decisions won't be all !@#$ed up? I'm getting to understand why OC and DC are the way they are-----dealing with idiots like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Gas prices are up = it's Obama's fault The US is slowly recovering from a financial nose dive = it's Obama's fault. An unseasonably warm winter = it's Obama's fault Revolts in the Middle East = it's Obama's fault A morman, a gnewt and a santorum... = it's Obama's fault (I thought Republicans were all supposed to be good christians.) Osama is dead = it's Obama's fault The Iraq war is over = it's Obama's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Gas prices are up = it's Obama's fault The US is slowly recovering from a financial nose dive = it's Obama's fault. An unseasonably warm winter = it's Obama's fault Revolts in the Middle East = it's Obama's fault A morman, a gnewt and a santorum... = it's Obama's fault (I thought Republicans were all supposed to be good christians.) Osama is dead = it's Obama's fault The Iraq war is over = it's Obama's fault Your use of exaggeration to try and make a point falls hopelessly flat There are many things that are due to this president's poor management skills....there are many that are not. People will continue to point out the things that are. You do give yourself , and your mindset, away with your......"I thought all Republicans were supposed to be good Christians" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 So, Obama should be doing much better than the Bush years? Bush didn't have the housing crisis to deal with, yet Obama is suppose to do way better? Come on Mr Objective! What are you talking about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 there are millions of people out there whose lives have been (shall we say) made worse by government policies since 2008 and they have loooooooonnng memories. Fixed. The majority of those people are too stupid to realize it because Obama has driven us another $5T in debt handing out cash to those people (and his buddies). Therefore, most of them will vote for him again. More Obama = More food stamps for me!! How long did the Great Depression last? I think the "Obama saved us from another Great Depression!" is my favorite talking point of the last 3 years. It's even better than quoting the # of jobs "created or saved". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatbillsfan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I know its a waste of time, but what the hell, I've got a few to waste.....lol I'll use small sentences for you. You gave examples of 2 Depressions We, were in a Recession...........psssst, they're not the same thing. Our latest Recession ended (per U.S. Government stats) in June of 2009. There are many historical references that show how long it takes for us to recover from a recession , we are now in a prolonged recovery. The current administration's economic efforts have had little effect, and perhaps even lengthened our return. . The only reason why it wasn't depression is because Congress acted quickly to inject money into the economy. Rather than take the Hoover approach and do nothing say prosperity is right around the corner. We see how well that approach worked. A little more sense as you and your twin Dave make on a daily basis. Joe Biden was an Obama decision. If he's capable of a decision like that, what makes you think his other decisions won't be all !@#$ed up? I'm getting to understand why OC and DC are the way they are-----dealing with idiots like you. Using a quote by the vice president to prove how stupid the president is is quite the stretch. With the slow recovery of the economy you guys are having a harder and harder time to find things to blame on the dems. Crap like this post is proof of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 “The rate of unemployment in the United States has exceeded 8 percent since February 2009, making the past three years the longest stretch of high unemployment in this country since the Great Depression. Moreover, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that the unemployment rate will remain above 8 percent until 2014. The official unemployment rate excludes those individuals who would like to work but have not searched for a job in the past four weeks as well as those who are working part-time but would prefer full-time work; if those people were counted among the unemployed, the unemployment rate in January 2012 would have been about 15 percent. Compounding the problem of high unemployment, the share of unemployed people looking for work for more than six months—referred to as the long-term unemployed—topped 40 percent in December 2009 for the first time since 1948, when such data began to be collected; it has remained above that level ever since.” Obama sucks. It's impossible for him to help a free market economy because he's a socialist. Any improvement at all has nothing to do with this incompetent schmuck. Community organizer/instigator with the keys to the car. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Your use of exaggeration to try and make a point falls hopelessly flat Yeah...but that's Bush's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The only reason why it wasn't depression is because Congress acted quickly to inject money into the economy. Rather than take the Hoover approach and do nothing say prosperity is right around the corner. We see how well that approach worked. The House actually tried to throw the economy under the bus because Pelosi's a B word and the Republicans are spoiled children. The Senate and Bush acted quickly, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The House actually tried to throw the economy under the bus because Pelosi's a B word and the Republicans are spoiled children. The Senate and Bush acted quickly, though. I would argue that the Federal Reserves action from my perspective was the true hero of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You sure are wasting time with your total ignorance. Tell us, jack ass, what actions Obama could have taken that would have created more employment. You say he "perhaps" lengthened the situation, I'd love to hear how that is so. Come on, let's hear. He could have waited on tackling healthcare reform until a meaningful recovery had taken hold. Instead he saw that he had the political clout to make it happen and rammed it home at the worst possible time. There's your suspect number 1 as to why the term "jobless recovery" has entered the lexicon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The Iraq war = Bush's fault The Housing bubble and market crash = Bush's fault TARP w/o asking for repayment FAILURE = Bush's fault TARP with repayment Semi successful = Obabams fault Slow recovery with a closed minded politicians in Congress = not Obama's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The Housing bubble and market crash = Bush's fault TARP w/o asking for repayment FAILURE = Bush's fault TARP with repayment Semi successful = Obabams fault Slow recovery with a closed minded politicians in Congress = not Obama's fault. That's one great big massive load of ignorant horseshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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