Mark Vader Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 How come absolutely any player that has crossed paths with chanix in KC, San Diego, college, etc. has "ties" and people would believe they would run, not walk to Buffalo? Is it the friggin colossal signing mistake and easy payday a broken down Merriman has received here so far? Everyone wanted Merriman to succeed but the odds are stacked against him now. Roids will do that to a player. What is the draw when players have these "ties"? Is it all the championships? Oops Channix don't own any anywhere. I think it may be the finger lickin good southern barbacue these guys can probably cook up. Why would VJ really want to be here? The quarterback? Don't think so. It's because, the Bills would overpay for him and no contender is interested. That's why. This team is several good winning campaigns away from any good, healthy, and YOUNG FA wanting too sign here. That article is like most posted up here, pure speculation (at this point) but anyone could guess if the 9ers and the bills had the same offer where would VJ go? exactly! Nix is not part of the equation. It appears there maybe a lot of disappointment when these name players thumb their noses IF we even make them an offer this offseason. I have read zero credible accounts that the bills are gearing up for a big run. Just speculation like posts that the GM, coach, have their jobs on the line this year. haven't read that anywhere credible and doubt that is true either. Lets hope we do it with what we have and a couple of decent FA pick ups this offseason. My point was that Buddy Nix would be interested in VJ because Nix was in San Diego when he played there and he knows what VJ is like as a player. Whether VJ is interested in coming to Buffalo is another story.
....lybob Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 The Bills are Interested in Vincent Jackson, I'm interested in Freida Pinto I think we have about an equal shot.
HuSeYiN1978 Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Actually, I wasnt the one who said it, it was K-9. And he didnt say we couldnt, he said we wouldnt. And not only did i not say we couldnt.. i think i explained that we could if we didnt spend much money elsewhere. Maybe youre right and i do have a miserable attitude but i dont think so. I actually argued for both sides of the issue. Both for signing him and against. I just think i was being realistic. Do you think they will spend almost $20 mil. on SJ and VJ? Because that is what it will take. The simple way to answer that is yes. What's 20 million for having those two guys on opposite ends of the offensive field? What's 20 million when the middle will open up plays for whoever the #3 wide receiver is and/or whoever our TE is? What's 20 million when the offense will be in the top ten in rankings. What's 20 million when you're thinking playoffs or bust? VJ will be paid at signing so there won't be any holdouts like he had in San Diego and he'll learn the playbook in due time. The guy is a beast. He stretches the field more than a fat person wearing a shirt two sizes smaller than his own. The offense will have an immediate impact with SJ and VJ. The Bills will get media attention and the amount of jerseys VJ will sell will easily bring the organization their share of money. It's a good business move and a good football move to sign the guy for 10 million. SJ I believe will get a little less than that. I say sign VJ for 9.5/10 and Sj at 8.5/9 and I think on a personal note SJ and VJ will get along off the field but that's just my own opinion.
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 The Bills are Interested in Vincent Jackson, I'm interested in Freida Pinto I think we have about an equal shot. Well, she was at the Bed, Bath, Beyond near the Beverly Center tonight. You missed an opportunity.
Bufcomments Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Not that surprised at this, due to Nix's ties to San Diego, and Nix saying that he wants to get a "Calvin Johnson" type receiver. Re-signing Stevie and adding Vincent Jackson would be tremendous moves. i agree They might as well spend the money they been hiding.
NewEra Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 1328915685[/url]' post='2381439']Yea because we were so good with just Stevie. You guys need to stop trying to be GM's. To sign both will not put us over the cap so explain why the hell we wouldn't be able to sign both plus take care of Fred... Let me guess. Cuz "ralph is cheap" right? Sometimes you gotta love Bills fans and sometimes you wish they'd stop with the miserable attitude. Because there will be more contracts to sign next year. Resigning levitre and Byrd won't be cheap.
NoSaint Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Actually, I wasnt the one who said it, it was K-9. And he didnt say we couldnt, he said we wouldnt. And not only did i not say we couldnt.. i think i explained that we could if we didnt spend much money elsewhere. Maybe youre right and i do have a miserable attitude but i dont think so. I actually argued for both sides of the issue. Both for signing him and against. I just think i was being realistic. Do you think they will spend almost $20 mil. on SJ and VJ? Because that is what it will take. Realistically I think we target one of type top 6-8 FA wideouts (VJ, SJ, bowe, colston being the 4 I'd expect) and then target a second tier guy (Robinson, meachem types). I agree SJ and VJ are a one or the other situation. Though if we can keep Stevie at the bottom edge of his alleged 7m asking price - he miiiight qualify as that second tier guy if structured right.
8-8 Forever? Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Screw them, its time for us to take over the division. Signing Vince would fill a huge need and more importantly would show other players that we are serious about winning and would show the same too the players we have and could get everyone here to play harder. Lets see, I can blow whats left of my career in buffalo, f-ing ny and have some ivy league throwing at me, or I can go play with hall of famers on the best run team in the league who just played in the SB. What will I do , what will I do?
PaattMaann Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 moving from Whale's vagina to Buffalo for a guy who likes to party.....it's gonna take a lot of dough. our bars are open later than theirs
truth on hold Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 New England will make a push for him, or at least they should. I dont know what their cap situation will be. They won't. Theyve got gronk Welker and others. No way they sign a big money FA receiver. If they want some new blood in the receiving corp they'll do thru draft
truth on hold Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 The Bills are Interested in Vincent Jackson, I'm interested in Freida Pinto I think we have about an equal shot. Freida's over rated
jimmy10 Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 moving from Whale's vagina to Buffalo for a guy who likes to party.....it's gonna take a lot of dough. For what he's going to make? He can afford to throw his own parties. As a wise man once said: Git 'er done!
Doc Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Given the choice between the two, I'd go with SJ. He's 3-1/2 years younger, has no known off-field issues (and the on-field ones are over, according to him), and their stats are comparable (despite Jackson playing with a better QB).
Pete Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I would rather we resign Stevie. And lets go all out for Mario!
HuSeYiN1978 Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 The Bills are Interested in Vincent Jackson, I'm interested in Freida Pinto I think we have about an equal shot. I heard Freida Pinto's coochie smells...
BobChalmers Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 If the Bills sign either SJ or VJ the other won't be signed. It's one or the other. I have no clue why people stick to this attitude ignoring all evidence. Nix was very explicit - he intends to resign Stevie AND bring in another top WR. A "Calvin Johnson-type" who's "open when he's covered". He specifically said if they lose Stevie they will add TWO WR's. Guys - if he wasn't serious about spending the cash on FA's this year, he wouldn't have said all that at the press conference. It does him no good to get fans' hopes up for a few months just to let them down before the ticket sales start in earnest. Look at the history of the team - HONESTLY. Every so often when they think they are close, Ralph spends the money. Remember the year of Dockery@$7M/Walker@$5M/etc.? Nix was spelling it out last month - they believe THIS is one of those years, and they intend to bring in the players THIS YEAR to get to the playoffs. If they don't, they are open to serious criticism because he said point-blank they were going to do it.
K-9 Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I have no clue why people stick to this attitude ignoring all evidence. Nix was very explicit - he intends to resign Stevie AND bring in another top WR. A "Calvin Johnson-type" who's "open when he's covered". He specifically said if they lose Stevie they will add TWO WR's. Guys - if he wasn't serious about spending the cash on FA's this year, he wouldn't have said all that at the press conference. It does him no good to get fans' hopes up for a few months just to let them down before the ticket sales start in earnest. Look at the history of the team - HONESTLY. Every so often when they think they are close, Ralph spends the money. Remember the year of Dockery@$7M/Walker@$5M/etc.? Nix was spelling it out last month - they believe THIS is one of those years, and they intend to bring in the players THIS YEAR to get to the playoffs. If they don't, they are open to serious criticism because he said point-blank they were going to do it. I don't doubt for a minute that Nix wants that "Calvin Johnson type" receiver. And I certainly wouldn't mind having one to compliment SJ as well. Nor do I doubt for a minute that RW is willing to spend the money on FAs. He's done that over the years, especially when they were close to contending. I don't think money is the big issue. And I've never been one of the "Ralph is cheap" crowd, either. As I've already stated, my opinion on the matter is formed by estimating what it would take to sign both SJ AND VJ. I conservatively put the cost at over $20m in actual cash for the upcoming season. That's a lot to spend on one position, especially when there are glaring holes elsewhere. I can certainly see them signing one or the other and then a lower-tier WR to compliment that signing. I'd love to have them both as well. It just doesn't seem practical, that's all. GO BILLS!!!
BillsVet Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I have no clue why people stick to this attitude ignoring all evidence. Nix was very explicit - he intends to resign Stevie AND bring in another top WR. A "Calvin Johnson-type" who's "open when he's covered". He specifically said if they lose Stevie they will add TWO WR's. Guys - if he wasn't serious about spending the cash on FA's this year, he wouldn't have said all that at the press conference. It does him no good to get fans' hopes up for a few months just to let them down before the ticket sales start in earnest. Look at the history of the team - HONESTLY. Every so often when they think they are close, Ralph spends the money. Remember the year of Dockery@$7M/Walker@$5M/etc.? Nix was spelling it out last month - they believe THIS is one of those years, and they intend to bring in the players THIS YEAR to get to the playoffs. If they don't, they are open to serious criticism because he said point-blank they were going to do it. There's only one problem with all of this: Nix doesn't control RW's money, Jeff Littmann does . And it's been proven time and again that BN talks out of his backside, so trusting him to talk about how they're going to spend is doubly ridiculous. The team has their back against the wall, especially with season ticket sales falling from 55k in 2009 to 37.5k in 2011. This is not the year, it's a make or break one for this franchise. Promising hope and hyping this team isn't cutting it anymore and most fans have finally figured it out.
NoSaint Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Given the choice between the two, I'd go with SJ. He's 3-1/2 years younger, has no known off-field issues (and the on-field ones are over, according to him), and their stats are comparable (despite Jackson playing with a better QB). Well, he was riding shotgun with marshawn that fateful eve.... And the devoted family man did tweet a pic of his junk last year.... As a few red flags about the image discussed and what might really be going on.
Doc Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Well, he was riding shotgun with marshawn that fateful eve.... And the devoted family man did tweet a pic of his junk last year.... As a few red flags about the image discussed and what might really be going on. The pic was his account getting hacked, otherwise we'd have heard about him getting called to Sir Roger's office. As for the car ride, I guess they could be mad about him refusing to say that Lynch was the one driving the car, but not much else.
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