Nanker Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Doubtful we are going to get a comp pick for Poz. Signing Captain Kirk probably cost us a comp pick. Right, because he signed for just a shade under the $45million that Poz did in Jax.
1billsfan Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 I prefer to see the Bills keep their picks if they can unless a unique situation presents itself. Maybe even try to get more. The more picks they make the better chance they have on hitting a quality player. Its really a numbers game these days when it comes to drafting imo. I disagree. I think that due to the current NFL rules, this is a QB driven league like no other time in history. My first wish is that the Bills trade away picks to get RG III. I know I've said only two #1s, but I'd trade away three #1s. IMO, RG III would immediately make the Bills Superbowl contenders. Yeah, I said it. The AFC sucks and will continue to suck for the next few years. The Bengals and Broncos got in the playoffs? Seriously? The NFC is laden with good teams and franchise QBs (Rogers, Manning, Brees) who the Bills will no doubt be facing when they get there. Sorry, I don't want to lose a 5th Superbowl with Fitzpatrick at the helm. Please, just do it Buddy.
JimBob2232 Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Right, because he signed for just a shade under the $45million that Poz did in Jax. ..I guess you don't understand how Comp picks work then eh? In the disillusion world of comp picks, # of players gained/lost determines IF a comp pick will be given. Value delta determines how HIGH a comp pick will be given. Thats simplified, but basically if we didnt sign Kirk, we probably would have gotten a 3rd or 4th rounder for Poz. Since we did...we likely get nothing. Gotta love comp picks. Of course, new CBA, so anything is possible. I dont think they changed the secret formula though.
Danny Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 I disagree. I think that due to the current NFL rules, this is a QB driven league like no other time in history. My first wish is that the Bills trade away picks to get RG III. I know I've said only two #1s, but I'd trade away three #1s. IMO, RG III would immediately make the Bills Superbowl contenders. Yeah, I said it. The AFC sucks and will continue to suck for the next few years. The Bengals and Broncos got in the playoffs? Seriously? The NFC is laden with good teams and franchise QBs (Rogers, Manning, Brees) who the Bills will no doubt be facing when they get there. Sorry, I don't want to lose a 5th Superbowl with Fitzpatrick at the helm. Please, just do it Buddy. That's a might big risk giving up three number ones. I understand the need for an elite QB but teams also have to make sure they don't trade away their future for that one guy. I'd rather emulate new englands strategy of stockpiling picks and selecting players they feel are valuable at that spot. Regardless however on the two of us disagreeing on the proper strategy.. I think we can both agree its highly unlikely the bills move up to take RG3.
1billsfan Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) That's a might big risk giving up three number ones. I understand the need for an elite QB but teams also have to make sure they don't trade away their future for that one guy. I'd rather emulate new englands strategy of stockpiling picks and selecting players they feel are valuable at that spot. Regardless however on the two of us disagreeing on the proper strategy.. I think we can both agree its highly unlikely the bills move up to take RG3. It is unlikely, but could you imagine if Buddy drops that kind of a bombshell move on the NFL and Bills nation? The crazy thing is that the Bills will be the one team who are just barely in close enough range to make the move, who will show almost no interest in RG III and therefor shock the NFL draft and the AFC East in particular. It might not be as big of a risk as you might think, I think you can fill in those defensive spots with free agency. Once players see that a team is on the rise and they have the QB to go all the way, they'll migrate there for the chance to get their ring. BTW, I think having both Manning and Brady in the division warrants the Bills making a big move for RG III... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/04/more-talk-of-peyton-manning-in-miami/ Edited February 4, 2012 by 1billsfan
todd Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 As of right now, the Bills have 9 draft picks for the upcoming draft. According to Chris Brown from buffalobills.com, the Lynch trade could bring the Bills a 5th rounder, plus with the loss of Posluszny, the Bills could get a compensatory pick (making it 10 total picks): "The Bills got a fourth-round pick in this year’s draft for Lee Evans from Baltimore. As for the Lynch trade it was a conditional sixth-round pick that could become a fifth-round pick. From what I understand the chances are good that it will be a fifth-round pick, but because it is a conditional agreement, those conditions agreed upon by the two clubs must be confirmed by the league as being satisfied. That has yet to happen. Additional information here We won't get anything for POZ. We replaced him with a FA who preformed similarly.
Bill from NYC Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Nine picks? Super Bowl! Re-sign Chandler, Jackson, Johnson 1 Whitney Mercilus DE43 Illinois 2 Ronnell Lewis OLB43 Oklahoma 3 Lavonte David OLB43 Nebraska 4 Leonard Johnson CB Iowa State 4 Mike Daniels DT43 Iowa 5 Landon Walker OT Clemson 5 Isaiah Pead RBF Cincinnati 6 Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin 7 Brian Quick WRP Appalachian State Brother, ya gotta help us out with some players from Alabama.
ieatcrayonz Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 As of right now, the Bills have 9 draft picks for the upcoming draft. According to Chris Brown from buffalobills.com, the Lynch trade could bring the Bills a 5th rounder, plus with the loss of Posluszny, the Bills could get a compensatory pick (making it 10 total picks): Are comp picks based on hair? Poz? Come on. But don't forget we also lost an all pro safety. We should get a comp pick for him.
nrod424 Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 It is unlikely, but could you imagine if Buddy drops that kind of a bombshell move on the NFL and Bills nation? The crazy thing is that the Bills will be the one team who are just barely in close enough range to make the move, who will show almost no interest in RG III and therefor shock the NFL draft and the AFC East in particular. It might not be as big of a risk as you might think, I think you can fill in those defensive spots with free agency. Once players see that a team is on the rise and they have the QB to go all the way, they'll migrate there for the chance to get their ring. BTW, I think having both Manning and Brady in the division warrants the Bills making a big move for RG III... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/04/more-talk-of-peyton-manning-in-miami/ Good idea but free agency starts in March, one month before the draft.
KD in CA Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 1328360369[/url]' post='2376639']Right, because he signed for just a shade under the $45million that Poz did in Jax. Comp picks are based on contract value of FAs? Who knew!
first_and_ten Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 As of right now, the Bills have 9 draft picks for the upcoming draft. According to Chris Brown from buffalobills.com, the Lynch trade could bring the Bills a 5th rounder, plus with the loss of Posluszny, the Bills could get a compensatory pick (making it 10 total picks): "The Bills got a fourth-round pick in this year’s draft for Lee Evans from Baltimore. As for the Lynch trade it was a conditional sixth-round pick that could become a fifth-round pick. From what I understand the chances are good that it will be a fifth-round pick, but because it is a conditional agreement, those conditions agreed upon by the two clubs must be confirmed by the league as being satisfied. That has yet to happen. Additional information here Unfortunately the Patriots have 2 first and 2 second round picks
Astrobot Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Now that would be an incredible draft. Actually my favorite pick there is the running back who may be all-pro worthy within a couple of years. I think Isaiah Pead is getting a bad rap from what I've read. I see his blitz pickup as excellent and some draftniks are criticizing his blocking. And his running ain't bad--prolly best in the Big East.
Nanker Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Comp picks are based on contract value of FAs? Who knew! Be in the know. Thanks for the compliment. The Bills got a fourth-round pick in this year's draft for Lee Evans from Baltimore. As for the Lynch trade it was a conditional sixth-round pick that could become a fifth-round pick. From what I understand the chances are good that it will be a fifth-round pick, but because it is a conditional agreement, those conditions agreed upon by the two clubs must be confirmed by the league as being satisfied. That has yet to happen. With respect to a compensatory pick for the loss of Paul Posluszny that should happen. I would anticipate a fifth or sixth-round pick knowing the size of Poz's contract has a lot to do with the unknown compensatory formula that the league employs. Buffalo did not have a free agent signee that came remotely close to Poz's $45M deal with Jacksonville so I'd expect Buffalo to get one for losing him. So breaking it all down the Bills will have nine picks and should get a 10th as a compensatory (round to be determined). Here are the rounds of the picks we know they have assuming the pick from the Lynch trade is a fifth, though the league has not confirmed it. (1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7). Chris Brown So kill me for believing CB.
Nanker Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 ..I guess you don't understand how Comp picks work then eh? In the disillusion world of comp picks, # of players gained/lost determines IF a comp pick will be given. Value delta determines how HIGH a comp pick will be given. Thats simplified, but basically if we didnt sign Kirk, we probably would have gotten a 3rd or 4th rounder for Poz. Since we did...we likely get nothing. Gotta love comp picks. Of course, new CBA, so anything is possible. I dont think they changed the secret formula though. Then neither does Chris Brown. True that!
Astrobot Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I am getting a lot of mail from DraftTek readers saying that the 5th is a done deal. It's still being discussed. Love the flexibility that a 10-pick draft would offer us, in addition to some of the FA names being bandied about. Ideally, V-Jax or Bowe coming to Buffalo, along with a FA pass rusher (Cliff Avril, Calais Campbell, Mario Williams or Robert Mathis), would let us pick BPA all the way through the 10 picks, maybe like this: RD1-Courtney Upshaw Bama OLB RD2-Andre Branch Clemson DE RD3-Orson Charles Georgia TE RD4-Shaun Prater Iowa CB RD4-Quinton Saulsberry Mississippi St. OC RD5-Nicolas Jean-Baptiste Baylor NT RD5-George Iloka Boise St. S RD6-Matt Reynolds BYU OT RD7-Brian Quick App State WR RD7-DeAngelo Tyson Georgia DT
DrDawkinstein Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Nine picks? Super Bowl! Re-sign Chandler, Jackson, Johnson 1 Whitney Mercilus DE43 Illinois 2 Ronnell Lewis OLB43 Oklahoma 3 Lavonte David OLB43 Nebraska 4 Leonard Johnson CB Iowa State 4 Mike Daniels DT43 Iowa 5 Landon Walker OT Clemson 5 Isaiah Pead RBF Cincinnati 6 Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin 7 Brian Quick WRP Appalachian State That's a WHOLE LOTTA Mid-West for a staff that's rooted in the South.
nobody Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Yeah, four 4th and 5th round picks are exciting. We rarely get it right with the 1st and 2nd rounds. How the hell do the Pats, who almost always win the division, keep on getting multiple 1st round picks while we, who almost always lose the division, keep on getting multiple deep-round backups and ne'er-do-wells? Still can't believe all Evans got us was a 4th rounder. You have to draft well in the 1st and 2nd so that in the future other teams will want to trade for some of those players and give you 1st and 2nds in return.
robkmil Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 ..I guess you don't understand how Comp picks work then eh? In the disillusion world of comp picks, # of players gained/lost determines IF a comp pick will be given. Value delta determines how HIGH a comp pick will be given. Thats simplified, but basically if we didnt sign Kirk, we probably would have gotten a 3rd or 4th rounder for Poz. Since we did...we likely get nothing. Gotta love comp picks. Of course, new CBA, so anything is possible. I dont think they changed the secret formula though. Might we be getting anything for Whitner as far as compensatory picks go?
808 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 love to see the bills add josh chapman who was dareus's teammate at bama. i know our DTs look good with dareus/wiliiams and heard played well at the end of the year too. but this kid could be a very valuable piece if added in the 3rd round or so.
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