Jerry Jabber Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2012/2/3/2767187/ravens-biggest-positional-need-heading-into-next-season "One of the issues brought up and discussed was what the Ravens need to do from a personnel stand-point to get over the "hump" and into the Super Bowl. When this question was raised, Ozzie Newsome had this to say: "I think you have to start with the offensive line. We were able to get 'Big Mac' [bryant McKinnie] in here late in August and get him to play. He played every snap on the offensive side of the ball, which is incredible. We are going to have to build on the offensive line. I think we will still build at the receiver spot. I think we'll work there. And, you don't ever have enough pass rushers. So, if that guy is there, we'll entertain that also." I know the lack of a pass rush has been talked a lot this past season, but IMO, the pass rush should have been addressed years ago. With playing against one of the best QB's to every play the game (Brady) twice a season, the Bills should of had the exact philsophy as Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome ("And, you don't ever have enough pass rushers. So, if that guy is there, we'll entertain that also"). It has blown my mind that it has finally took this long for the lack of a pass rush to stick out like a sore thumb to Bills management/coaches. Schobel was a good pass rusher, but the Bills needed more guys to compliment him. Kelsay is a very hard working player and will play any position the coaches will ask of him, but he's not even an average pass rusher. Jauron wanted Maybin and convinced the Bills FO to take him, because of his quick first step. IMO, Maybin only had 1 good year in college and was too small to play DE. IMO, the last good set of OLB's the Bills had were Angelo Crowell and Takeo Spikes. IMO, I think Dareus & K. Williams have the potential to be the best DT tandem in the league. But, if the Bills want to beat the Patriots and win the division, then they need 2 DE's and two OLB's that can get consistent pressure on the QB. Edited February 3, 2012 by Jerry Jabber
MarkyMannn Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 IMO, I think Dareus & K. Williams have the potential to be the best DT tandem in the league. I would not at all count on KW. He could end up being Merriman 2.0
Jerry Jabber Posted February 3, 2012 Author Posted February 3, 2012 I would not at all count on KW. He could end up being Merriman 2.0 Kyle Williams had surgery to remove a bone spur (that he played through his entire college career) that was cutting into his achillies tendon. It's not like he ruptured his achillies or had similar problems like Merriman has.
jjmac Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I know we're all sick and tired of hearing this word, but patience is the key, especially this year, with a change in defensive philosophy.
BillsVet Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 The difference between Ozzie Newsome making this statement and Buddy Nix is clear. One is an outstanding talent evaluator who has an owner, Steve Bisciotti, who'll back him up. The latter is an average at best talent evaluator with an absent owner who's delegated responsibility to bean counters. Cue a Lee Evans criticism of Newsome, but ON drafts a heck of a lot better than Nix ever will. That, and he doesn't flip flop his defenses every 2 years.
Haplo848 Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Kyle Williams had surgery to remove a bone spur (that he played through his entire college career) that was cutting into his achillies tendon. It's not like he ruptured his achillies or had similar problems like Merriman has. I agree completely with this. I don't understand why everyone has been so down on Kyle Williams the past few months. Everyone keeps saying he took the money and ran, and now he won't do anything now that he got paid. That's just stupid. He had a bone spur that was making it difficult to walk, let alone play, yet he was out there doing the best he could through the pain for almost half a year before the coaches put him on IR. That tells me he's INCREDIBLY motivated, not that he's not motivated at all. I guarantee, he will be back to his normal form next year and everyone that's suddenly been so down on him this year will be acting like they never thought he was anything less than great.
apuszczalowski Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I agree completely with this. I don't understand why everyone has been so down on Kyle Williams the past few months. Everyone keeps saying he took the money and ran, and now he won't do anything now that he got paid. That's just stupid. He had a bone spur that was making it difficult to walk, let alone play, yet he was out there doing the best he could through the pain for almost half a year before the coaches put him on IR. That tells me he's INCREDIBLY motivated, not that he's not motivated at all. I guarantee, he will be back to his normal form next year and everyone that's suddenly been so down on him this year will be acting like they never thought he was anything less than great. I'm gonna give you a little tip to help you along as a member on this board, most of those comments/posts about williams are started by a poster who eats crayonz, he is not a serious poster and comments like that are part of his persona
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 The difference between Ozzie Newsome making this statement and Buddy Nix is clear. One is an outstanding talent evaluator who has an owner, Steve Bisciotti, who'll back him up. The latter is an average at best talent evaluator with an absent owner who's delegated responsibility to bean counters. Cue a Lee Evans criticism of Newsome, but ON drafts a heck of a lot better than Nix ever will. That, and he doesn't flip flop his defenses every 2 years. I think nix earned another draft to evaluate his talent judgement. Mordak was still in the mix in 2010 draft and while that draft class was "meh", 2011's proved to be a good one. I say let 2012 break the tie. Hopefully continue momentum in the right direction.
Max997 Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 unfortunately the Bills philsophy has been you cant have enough corners
JPS Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 unfortunately the Bills philsophy has been you cant have enough corners +1. If you give me dominance at Oline and pass pushers, it's a good team no matter what the rest of the team looks like. Now...you need a few playmakers to get you far into the playoffs, but I think the Harbaugh template of teams is timeless....and weather proof.
Jerry Jabber Posted February 3, 2012 Author Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) unfortunately the Bills philsophy has been you cant have enough corners +2. Even Boss Hogg stated "You should draft 1 or 2 corners every year". Wrong philosophy IMO. If you have a great pass rush, then you don't need to have a great secondary. If the opposing QB has all day long in the pocket to make a pass, eventually someone on offense will get open (as we've seen from the Bills for years now). Edited February 3, 2012 by Jerry Jabber
Captain Hindsight Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 The difference between Ozzie Newsome making this statement and Buddy Nix is clear. One is an outstanding talent evaluator who has an owner, Steve Bisciotti, who'll back him up. The latter is an average at best talent evaluator with an absent owner who's delegated responsibility to bean counters. Cue a Lee Evans criticism of Newsome, but ON drafts a heck of a lot better than Nix ever will. That, and he doesn't flip flop his defenses every 2 years. Has Ozzie Newsome ever drafted a wide receiver worth a damn?
CBD Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I know we're all sick and tired of hearing this word, but patience is the key, especially this year, with a change in defensive philosophy. Negative, if the change in defensive philosophy brings on a call for patience then they shouldn't be making the change (or have made the change in the first place). This is year 3, their stuff should be in order by now, patience is out the window.
1billsfan Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 DE Mercilus or Ingram in the first 1st, then DE Curry or Branch in the 2nd...that's what I want right now. If they don't move up to get RG III, I want the Bills to acquire the "NASCAR" defense like the Giants have.
papazoid Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I'm gonna give you a little tip to help you along as a member on this board, most of those comments/posts about williams are started by a poster who eats crayonz, he is not a serious poster and comments like that are part of his persona crayons are non-toxic to "use"......eating them ?
Max997 Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Has Ozzie Newsome ever drafted a wide receiver worth a damn? Torrey Smith looks like he could be a decent player but other then him I cant think of any
Jerry Jabber Posted February 3, 2012 Author Posted February 3, 2012 I wrote this pretty much bashing the organization as a whole for the past 10 years. Even though the last time the Bills had a great defense was under Donahoe (by bringing in Sam Adams, Takeo Spikes and London Fletcher), he failed to resign Pat Williams and let Dick LeBeau go. I would have loved it if the Bills kept LeBeau as their DC. Marv Levy hired Jauron and let Jauron have his way with the defense the Bills ran and most of the draft picks. The Tampon 2 defense sucked. Smaller, faster players on defense only work in warm weather cities or cities with domes. Levy got rid of Fletcher & Spikes, drafted Whitner over Ngata. Jauron sold the Bills FO on Maybin, and Brandon drafted Maybin over Orakpo/Matthews/Oher. While Boss Hogg & Cooter have been working on the interior of the D-line (because they sucked against the run), they have failed to address the pass rush (as of yet). The Merriman experiment has been failing miserably so far. I expect the Bills to add 2 pass rushers, but IMO, that is not going to be enough.
Dopey Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Kyle Williams had surgery to remove a bone spur (that he played through his entire college career) that was cutting into his achillies tendon. It's not like he ruptured his achillies or had similar problems like Merriman has. I hear you on the KW thing, but Merriman says his problem was not a rupture or complete tear either. I think he said it was stretched, but not torn or ruptured. So I'm hopeful that he comes back healthy too. The medical staff seems to think so. I'm gonna give you a little tip to help you along as a member on this board, most of those comments/posts about williams are started by a poster who eats crayonz, he is not a serious poster and comments like that are part of his persona
Offside Number 76 Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I don't really want the whole team doing backflips and round-offs when they're announced at the beginning of games.
JohnC Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2012/2/3/2767187/ravens-biggest-positional-need-heading-into-next-season "One of the issues brought up and discussed was what the Ravens need to do from a personnel stand-point to get over the "hump" and into the Super Bowl. When this question was raised, Ozzie Newsome had this to say: "I think you have to start with the offensive line. We were able to get 'Big Mac' [bryant McKinnie] in here late in August and get him to play. He played every snap on the offensive side of the ball, which is incredible. We are going to have to build on the offensive line. I think we will still build at the receiver spot. I think we'll work there. And, you don't ever have enough pass rushers. So, if that guy is there, we'll entertain that also." I know the lack of a pass rush has been talked a lot this past season, but IMO, the pass rush should have been addressed years ago. With playing against one of the best QB's to every play the game (Brady) twice a season, the Bills should of had the exact philsophy as Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome ("And, you don't ever have enough pass rushers. So, if that guy is there, we'll entertain that also"). It has blown my mind that it has finally took this long for the lack of a pass rush to stick out like a sore thumb to Bills management/coaches. Schobel was a good pass rusher, but the Bills needed more guys to compliment him. Kelsay is a very hard working player and will play any position the coaches will ask of him, but he's not even an average pass rusher. Jauron wanted Maybin and convinced the Bills FO to take him, because of his quick first step. IMO, Maybin only had 1 good year in college and was too small to play DE. IMO, the last good set of OLB's the Bills had were Angelo Crowell and Takeo Spikes. IMO, I think Dareus & K. Williams have the potential to be the best DT tandem in the league. But, if the Bills want to beat the Patriots and win the division, then they need 2 DE's and two OLB's that can get consistent pressure on the QB. I still get upset knowing that the Bills drafted Whitner allowing the Ravens to take Ngata. Bonehead organization making nonsensical decisions.
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