H2o Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/17/likely-first-round-pick-dre-kirkpatrick-arrested-for-marijuana-possession/ This guy will free fall now.
NoSaint Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 just... plain... dumb.... i care less about the drugs and waaaaay more that he is so oblivious to his life situation that hed put himself in the position to risk so much.
H2o Posted January 17, 2012 Author Posted January 17, 2012 Like the first response to the article said, "You just cost yourself millions." I don't understand what some of these people are thinking.
AReed Deep For 7 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) its weed, relax folks show me a college kid who doesnt burn (especially athletes) and ill show you a Bills Super Bowl Ring Edited January 17, 2012 by AReed Deep For 7
The Senator Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Well you know there shouldn't be no law on people that want to smoke a little dope... link Git 'er done, Buddy!!! GO BILLSSS!!!! 19 and 0 baby!!!!!
NoSaint Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 its weed, relax folks show me a college kid who doesnt burn (especially athletes) and ill show you a Bills Super Bowl Ring And I'll show you millions - one for every dollar he lost - that never get caught. The offseason before the draft is an awful time (combine coming up) and to get caught with it indicates a certain level of dumb for a guy in his position.
AReed Deep For 7 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Well you know there shouldn't be no law on people that want to smoke a little dope... link Git 'er done, Buddy!!! GO BILLSSS!!!! 19 and 0 baby!!!!! thanks for the link. you just made my late lunch break that much better And I'll show you millions - one for every dollar he lost - that never get caught. The offseason before the draft is an awful time (combine coming up) and to get caught with it indicates a certain level of dumb for a guy in his position. No your right its dumb, do it where ya wont get caught. Im just bustin bxlls
dwight in philly Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) if snoop dogg can get busted for pot, then i dont know! what is this world coming to! never saw that coming! Edited January 17, 2012 by dwight in philly
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/17/likely-first-round-pick-dre-kirkpatrick-arrested-for-marijuana-possession/ This guy will free fall now. I doubt it, a little weed won't scare off GMs. its weed, relax folks show me a college kid who doesnt burn (especially athletes) and ill show you a Bills Super Bowl Ring true
NoSaint Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I doubt it, a little weed won't scare off GMs. true What typically worries them isn't the weed, it's the judgement displayed in the situation. I think GMs generally accept that it happens - but to totally miss the boat on how to handle it if you are making that choice is a far bigger red flag. He wont freefall but even a few slots is millions.
Chris in Syracuse Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/17/likely-first-round-pick-dre-kirkpatrick-arrested-for-marijuana-possession/ This guy will free fall now. That is good maybe we can take him at 10. 6' 2" is what we need to compete with all these TE and tall WR's in our division.
T master Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 This is great for the Bills ! Now we can get Upshaw in the 1st round & this guy in the 3rd or 4th . Of coarse thats what most everybody else in the league is thinking !! If you think for one minute that that will stop the Pats from drafting him your foolish . I could understand if it was meth , crank or crack but it's pot !!! If they can legally sell alcohol which can kill you in one setting pot is like selling asprin it's only illegal because of ignorance about it & Budwieser , Seagrams , Jose Quervo , & huge pharmeceutical companies injecting monies to keep it that way . Heck the great Bruce Smith was arrested 5 times for DUI & the other dude paid 8 Mil to get out of killing a guy while he was driving drunk !! This ain't nothin !!! After his first 2 INT's & some community service they'll forget all about it !! DRAFT HIM BUDDY !!!
mob16151 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 FitzPatrick more than likely didn't cost himself, much, if any money. You all keep forgetting about the rookie salary cap. Since teams aren't investing as much money in these guys, there better able to take chances, because a miss won't hurt your cap, to badly.
Astrobot Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 We were talking on the DraftTek board about how far he'll fall on the Big Board. I'd like your opinions. My thoughts are that he now drops to the #28-42 range, below Dennard for sure and maybe below Janoris Jenkins and Minnifield. We've also changed 57 players who have decided to return to college and avoid the No Fun League.
mob16151 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 We were talking on the DraftTek board about how far he'll fall on the Big Board. I'd like your opinions. My thoughts are that he now drops to the #28-42 range, below Dennard for sure and maybe below Janoris Jenkins and Minnifield. We've also changed 57 players who have decided to return to college and avoid the No Fun League. Im going with doesn't drop at all, and is still a top 15 pick.
Astrobot Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Im going with doesn't drop at all, and is still a top 15 pick. Wow.
mob16151 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Wow. Why would he drop,teams don't have as much money tied up in first round picks with the new CBA, and he's still IMO the clear cut second best corner in this draft.NFL teams will more likely be more concerned with how he times/tests at the combine. Edited January 17, 2012 by mob16151
DrDawkinstein Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I agree it is a stupid stupid move... BUT, I also dont see his stock dropping much. I mean, he's a DB. If he was a QB, then yes. But he'll still go in the top 20. He'll wow at the Combine and everyone will forget about this harmless incident.
Astrobot Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I ran a simulation and am showing the section of the draft that Kirkpatrick's Oops will likely effect. Lots of teams take CB's early: San Diego, Dallas, Cincy, and Detroit. My guess is Cincy considers the dropoff in ability between Janoris Jenkins and Dre Kirkpatrick to be too great, and Cincy takes him at #21. 1 15 San Diego Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama P3O +3 Value 1 16 Chicago David DeCastro OG Stanford P3 +1 Value 1 17 Tennessee Quinton Coples DE43 North Carolina P1 +9 Value 1 18 Dallas Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska P2 +0 Value 1 19 NY Jets Juron Criner WRF Arizona P3R -9 Reach 1 20 Denver Mark Barron SS Alabama P3 -1 Reach 1 21 Cincinnati Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama P1 -6 Reach 1 22 NY Giants Don'ta Hightower ILB Alabama P3 +0 Value 1 23 Cincinnati Peter Konz OG Wisconsin P2 -2 Reach 1 24 Cleveland Whitney Mercilus DE43 Illinois P3 +5 Value 1 25 Houston Jonathan Martin OT Stanford P3 +5 Value 1 26 Detroit Chase Minnifield CB Virginia P3 -7 Reach
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