EldaBillsFan Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 There are several 3-4 DE/OLB types....... only guys I see that fit that defense are Coples and Mercilus .....
jjmac Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Are you sure we're going to a 4-3? Sure, Wannstadt's promotion would seem to indicate that we're going in that direction, but that subject seems to be the great mystery at OBD.
Cheddar's Dad Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Upshaw would be my choice for the 34 OLB position; not my choice for the 43 at DE or OLB. I'm not sure I'd take anyone in this year's draft at #10 for the 43 OLB or DE.
ieatcrayonz Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 If you get a guy like Honey Badger in the defensive backfield it would allow you flexibility up front.
EldaBillsFan Posted January 17, 2012 Author Posted January 17, 2012 If you get a guy like Honey Badger in the defensive backfield it would allow you flexibility up front. He isn't eliglable for this draft.... Upshaw would be my choice for the 34 OLB position; not my choice for the 43 at DE or OLB. I'm not sure I'd take anyone in this year's draft at #10 for the 43 OLB or DE. My point....this isn't a strong pass rush draft...might be some diamonds in the rough ...but upfront the talent looks thin...and if Coples is gone that's it....then you end up with undersized de's
thebandit27 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 There are several 3-4 DE/OLB types....... only guys I see that fit that defense are Coples and Mercilus ..... The guy that strikes me as the ideal 4-3 fit is Melvin Ingram from South Carolina. He's got great size at 6'3", 272 lbs, and is an incredible athlete. For a guy that's only spent parts of 2 seasons at DE, he flashes very solid pass rush ability. He reminds me of Jason Pierre-Paul in his skill set and college experience. He isn't eliglable for this draft.... Please ignore Crayonz, it's the only hope we have that he'll stop his see-if-I-can-get-others-to-argue-my-nonsensical-blather posting.
Wagon Circler Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Couples is purely a 3-4 end, not a dynamic rusher. read the scouting reports. He's like 285.
ieatcrayonz Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 He isn't eliglable for this draft.... Let these guys know because they took him at #5 overall.
thebandit27 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Please ignore Crayonz, it's the only hope we have that he'll stop his see-if-I-can-get-others-to-argue-my-nonsensical-blather posting. Let these guys know because they took him at #5 overall. I rest my case...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 There are several 3-4 DE/OLB types....... only guys I see that fit that defense are Coples and Mercilus ..... Coples is supposed to be the best but I don't see it. Mercilus looked pretty good but the one year wonder is a concern. Melvin Ingram is good too but not dominant the best end I saw this year was Cordarro Law of Southern Miss but he has had consistancy issues. So I would go DE and OLB after the first round.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 If you get a guy like Honey Badger in the defensive backfield it would allow you flexibility up front. nice try
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Couples is purely a 3-4 end, not a dynamic rusher. read the scouting reports. He's like 285. 285 is not huge its ideal, also he hasn't played any 34 end and is rated the #1 43 DE. that being said he is way overrated.
CSBill Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) If you get a guy like Honey Badger in the defensive backfield it would allow you flexibility up front. Yeah, he had a great National Championship game; and as it has been said, he is a true sophomore, not eligible. Edited January 17, 2012 by CSBill
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I just pray they don't go into this draft completely need based. That's how you get Losman and Hardy. Plenty of good pass rushers weren't drafted in the 1st round.
syrcuse315 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Melvin Ingram and Nick Perry would be my top 2 picks.. Ingram is one of the most athletically gifted DE I've ever seen, his stats aren't stella but he is a supreme athlete.
PDaDdy Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Oh god not again. This is starting to sound like Orakpo vs Maybin again accept everyone wanted Orakpo a few years ago. I am no college expert at all but what I have seen of Coples he gets to the QB and got double teamed every play with nobody else getting near the QB. He is a big big dude and supposedly, is projected to run 4.7 in the 40. Again I am no expert but he seems like an athletic kind of guy with freak size who CAN ALSO STOP THE RUN. Remember we suck at that just a little bit less than we do rushing the passer. I would be just fine with the guy. Everything changes after the combine so I am very interested to see what kind of measureables this guy has! Edited January 17, 2012 by PDaDdy
T master Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Couples is purely a 3-4 end, not a dynamic rusher. read the scouting reports. He's like 285. Bring back Maybin !!!!! Oh Sorry forgot i was on the Bills site !!
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Melvin Ingram and Nick Perry would be my top 2 picks.. Ingram is one of the most athletically gifted DE I've ever seen, his stats aren't stella but he is a supreme athlete. I`m with ya. Ingram is bigger. Perry looks good at end,But he only weighs 250.
Dr. Trooth Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Are you sure we're going to a 4-3? Sure, Wannstadt's promotion would seem to indicate that we're going in that direction, but that subject seems to be the great mystery at OBD. I'd bet both of my nutz on it. Wanny don't know spit about a 3-4. His only history is of running 4-3 schemes. And, if they were going to stay with a 3-4, why wouldn't they bring in a DC familiar with the 3-4? Edited January 17, 2012 by Dr. Trooth
Astrobot Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Coples is the best 4-3 DE, and can be used as a 3-4 DE with very little falloff. We have him hereat #11. Devon Still is a great 4-3 DT, and drops to RD3 as a DE 3-4. We have him at #7 as a 4-3 DT, but dropping 59 slots if he's a 3-4 DE. Mercilus is now at #17 as a 4-3 DE, and only drops 10 slots if he's a OLB34.
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