Jerry Jabber Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 While I was in B-lo this weekend, I heard Chris Brown on the pre-game show on 103.3. According to Brown, the Bills won't use the franchise tag on Stevie Johnson, and if Johnson wanted $7.5 million a year, the deal would have been done already. Brown stated that he heard the number was around $10 million a year. Guess we'll all have to wait and see. I hope the Bills resign Johnson, the Bills already need one WR, so if Johnson departs, then the Bills will need two. Plus, since Ralph stated that they're sticking with Fitzpatrick, then it would make sense to keep Johnson since those 2 work well together.
BuffaloBill Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I think the Bills might have if not for his last stunt in NE. I wonder how his immaturity might impact him in the market as a FA.
DDD Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I severely doubt the decision whether or not to franchise Steve Johnson has been made yet. Way too early. Bills brass has to decide who's available in free agency, the draft, and the all important financial ramifications of such a move.
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) I think the Bills might have if not for his last stunt in NE. I wonder how his immaturity might impact him in the market as a FA. I don't think Johnsons stupidity in NE altered the Bills plans in any way. They have a price in mind that they are willing to go to, and using the franchise tag would exceed that price. The question remains as to if some other team might pay more for him than the Bills are willing to pay. Edited January 5, 2012 by CodeMonkey
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Bye Bye SJ, hello clowney! And we save like 7 million a year for RW.
JPS Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 He's a good receiver worthy of good money. If he wants elite money for good play, he's gone and so what....Build the defense. You CAN win without a dominant WR, but you can't win with the JV defensive front 7 we have been riding the past 2-3 years. I think Stevie is saying the only way he stays is if the Bills overpay for him. If he wants to go, he'll go and he'll take his "good money" from someone else. He will not get 8 mil.
LABills08 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Sadly, I think he played his last game as a Bill. And while Stevie is to blame, Gailey's hard knock "I'm coaching an NFL team likes its Georgia Tech" attitude didn't really help things. In fairness, 10 million is too much. I think that makes Stevie a top 4 paid WR. 7.5 per puts him in the top 10 easily. He's good, but he's not 8-10 million good. Nowhere near it.
1billsfan Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 While I was in B-lo this weekend, I heard Chris Brown on the pre-game show on 103.3. According to Brown, the Bills won't use the franchise tag on Stevie Johnson, and if Johnson wanted $7.5 million a year, the deal would have been done already. Brown stated that he heard the number was around $10 million a year. Guess we'll all have to wait and see. I hope the Bills resign Johnson, the Bills already need one WR, so if Johnson departs, then the Bills will need two. Plus, since Ralph stated that they're sticking with Fitzpatrick, then it would make sense to keep Johnson since those 2 work well together. If the Bills don't sign Johnson then stick a fork in 'em, they are DONE. I'm serious. You can't win games without a #1 wide receiver and a horrible defense. As clownish as Stevie at times, he's nothing compared to the clowns we have running the show in the front office.
The Big Cat Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I severely doubt the decision whether or not to franchise Steve Johnson has been made yet. Way too early. Bills brass has to decide who's available in free agency, the draft, and the all important financial ramifications of such a move. It would cost Buffalo $9.5 Million to franchise him for one year. It sounds like the organization already has a number in its head. If they feel he's worth more than that, then the tag is a no-brainer. If they think they can sign him to a long term deal in the 7.5-9 range, it makes sense to not use the tag. Also: over the past two off seasons only 17 teams have used the tag. It's a device that's not nearly as prevalent as its mention round these parts.
Best Player Available Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I think the Bills might have if not for his last stunt in NE. I wonder how his immaturity might impact him in the market as a FA. After what came out yesterday from the Jests backup quarterback. I doubt Rex would touch this with a 10 foot pole. Then again........ If the Bills don't sign Johnson then stick a fork in 'em, they are DONE. I'm serious. You can't win games without a #1 wide receiver and a horrible defense. As clownish as Stevie at times, he's nothing compared to the clowns we have running the show in the front office. Resigning Johnson doesn't solve the problem of having a clutch #1 receiver
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 After what came out yesterday from the Jests backup quarterback. I doubt Rex would touch this with a 10 foot pole. Then again........ Resigning Johnson doesn't solve the problem of having a clutch #1 receiver Rex believes he can control anybody with his personality and will. That is how he got in trouble with his team that is full of hoodlam types. SJ woul dbe a model citizen comapred to all the other idiots he has. The againwe have Clowney, who aberages 7 cathes per season.
Just in Atlanta Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Who needs Stevie when you have Clownie? In all seriousness, this team would be stupid not to give SJ a new contract. As a fan I'd be hugely disappointed.
Jerry Jabber Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 He's a good receiver worthy of good money. If he wants elite money for good play, he's gone and so what....Build the defense. You CAN win without a dominant WR, but you can't win with the JV defensive front 7 we have been riding the past 2-3 years. I think Stevie is saying the only way he stays is if the Bills overpay for him. If he wants to go, he'll go and he'll take his "good money" from someone else. He will not get 8 mil. The Bills desperately need pass rushers. The Bills haven't had a good, consistent pass rush since the late 90's. But, if the Bills go with the WR's currently on the team (minus Johnson), then they are royally screwed!!!
DDD Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 If the Bills don't sign Johnson then stick a fork in 'em, they are DONE. I'm serious. You can't win games without a #1 wide receiver and a horrible defense. As clownish as Stevie at times, he's nothing compared to the clowns we have running the show in the front office. Stick a fork in 'em? They were done years ago when they were unwilling to pay Pat Williams and Antoine Winfiled.
Jerry Jabber Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 Stick a fork in 'em? They were done years ago when they were unwilling to pay Pat Williams and Antoine Winfiled.
PromoTheRobot Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Sadly, I think he played his last game as a Bill. And while Stevie is to blame, Gailey's hard knock "I'm coaching an NFL team likes its Georgia Tech" attitude didn't really help things. I'd love to know what exactly you consider Chan's GT attitude? You mean like telling the team whoever gets a celebration flag gets benched, then following through? I guess a REAL NFL coach would just say "I was just kidding, I'm not benching you." If the Bills don't sign Johnson then stick a fork in 'em, they are DONE. I'm serious. You can't win games without a #1 wide receiver and a horrible defense. As clownish as Stevie at times, he's nothing compared to the clowns we have running the show in the front office. It just hit me: The posters that hate the team the most all have names like "#1 Bills Fan" PTR
flmike Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Letting Big Pat go was a mistake, but there was no way the Bills were going to match the obscene offer by the 49er's for Winfield. He got QB money as I recall. The problem with Johnson is that some stupid team will pay what he's asking, so instead of us having solid no. 2 receiver, someone else will be cursing the day they paid him.
Dorkington Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Not a chance that SJ sticks around. He can get a bigger paycheck playing for a better organization. There is zero reason for any player to play in Buffalo unless they are desperate and have no other options.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I never believed that all Stevie asked for was 7.5 million. I do not believe the Patriots incident will have any affect whatsoever on whether or not the Bills sign him. And I do think there is a very good chance the Bills sign him. He is also crazy, and stupid, if he does not test free agency, unless the Bills offer him what he is asking for, which they are very likely not going to do (only because it is a negotiation, and rarely, especially with a player who is very good but not elite like Stevie, get everything he and his agent ask for). Going into free agency and seeing what the market bears has ZERO meaning to whether he wants to stay in Buffalo or not, or will re-sign with the Bills. None. It's the prudent, right thing to do, and every player would do it.
BuffaloBillsSD Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Letting Big Pat go was a mistake, but there was no way the Bills were going to match the obscene offer by the 49er's for Winfield. He got QB money as I recall. The problem with Johnson is that some stupid team will pay what he's asking, so instead of us having solid no. 2 receiver, someone else will be cursing the day they paid him. 49ers signed Clements, Vikings signed Winfield. Clements got a stupid contact and Winfield got a big contract as well but he actually lived up to it.
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