FluffHead Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Joe buscaglia and sal Cappaccio reporting. No link from my mobile. Check twitter @salsports
Maury Ballstein Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Ship that!.....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Stevie's asking price: http://wgr550.com/So...ls---7/11853952 Sounds VERY reasonable to me. I highly recommend clicking on bills1960's link. It is a very thorough and in-depth report… actual journalism with sources and corroboration and history and context. A seldom-seen look into the inner workings of the Bills front office. This is must-read stuff.
Best Player Available Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 If true. Why would OBD have ANY problem with that.
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Considering we have so many FA and 7th rounders on this team and well below the cap even with cash to Cap philosophy we need to actually sepned money to stay in the league.
John from Riverside Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 If this is Stevie's asking price then why isnt this done yet?
apuszczalowski Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Everyone needs to come the F*** down about this negotiations. Free Agency doesn't start for another 2 1/2 months, the seasons not even over yet and people act around here as if it starts Monday This is a quote from teh WGR article from his agent "We were approached to do a deal prior to the season starting," said Laboy. "When it became clear that the two sides were too far apart, we agreed that it would be best to shelve negotiations and allow Stevie to focus on the season. Stevie never wanted his contract status to be a distraction to him or his teammates. At that time, the Bills turned their focus on getting Ryan [Fitzpatrick]’s contract done, which they ultimately did. A week or so after Ryan’s deal was done, the Bills wanted to re-open negotiations, but when it quickly became apparent that we wouldn’t be able to get a deal done, Stevie decided that it was best to wait until the end of the year before talking about his contract again." Basically, he is saying that Stevie wanted to wait til the offseason to negotiate his contract, even when the Bills approached him to negotiate after getting Fitzs deal done, he still wanted to wait til after this weekend The guy says he wants to be here, the team has opened discussions multiple times to try and re-sign him, and his side says they want to wait til the offseason to negotiate. Can we atleast say No More Stevie Contract Posts until either - A. He has a new deal signed, or B. its the End of February 2012?????
Gray Beard Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I feel pretty good about this. I was under the impression he wanted $9M. This is a no-brainer. I refuse to believe that OBD could mess this up.
missthe kgun Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 In my Deion Sanders Voice "Pay Da Man!!!
apuszczalowski Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 If true. Why would OBD have ANY problem with that. Maybe its the years of the contract? Maybe he wants incentives in that deal? maybe he is looking for a huge signing bonus to go along with that yearly salary? maybe he wants RWS to be renamed to SJ Field in the new deal? Maybe he wants to play against Revis all 16 games a season? Maybe he is asking that Ralph Wilson has to buy a new Taurus through him at the dealership so he can get extra commision? Just because thats what he is asking for in yearly salary, it doesn't mean its the only part they need to negotiate If this is Stevie's asking price then why isnt this done yet? See my previous post
Beerball Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I feel pretty good about this. I was under the impression he wanted $9M. This is a no-brainer. I refuse to believe that OBD could mess this up. This is the Bills & the accountants are in charge of this area. Anything can happen.
Best Player Available Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Everyone needs to come the F*** down about this negotiations. Free Agency doesn't start for another 2 1/2 months, the seasons not even over yet and people act around here as if it starts Monday This is a quote from teh WGR article from his agent "We were approached to do a deal prior to the season starting," said Laboy. "When it became clear that the two sides were too far apart, we agreed that it would be best to shelve negotiations and allow Stevie to focus on the season. Stevie never wanted his contract status to be a distraction to him or his teammates. At that time, the Bills turned their focus on getting Ryan [Fitzpatrick]’s contract done, which they ultimately did. A week or so after Ryan’s deal was done, the Bills wanted to re-open negotiations, but when it quickly became apparent that we wouldn’t be able to get a deal done, Stevie decided that it was best to wait until the end of the year before talking about his contract again." Basically, he is saying that Stevie wanted to wait til the offseason to negotiate his contract, even when the Bills approached him to negotiate after getting Fitzs deal done, he still wanted to wait til after this weekend The guy says he wants to be here, the team has opened discussions multiple times to try and re-sign him, and his side says they want to wait til the offseason to negotiate. Can we atleast say No More Stevie Contract Posts until either - A. He has a new deal signed, or B. its the End of February 2012????? Well clearly you're the expert!
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Everyone needs to come the F*** down about this negotiations. Free Agency doesn't start for another 2 1/2 months, the seasons not even over yet and people act around here as if it starts Monday This is a quote from teh WGR article from his agent "We were approached to do a deal prior to the season starting," said Laboy. "When it became clear that the two sides were too far apart, we agreed that it would be best to shelve negotiations and allow Stevie to focus on the season. Stevie never wanted his contract status to be a distraction to him or his teammates. At that time, the Bills turned their focus on getting Ryan [Fitzpatrick]'s contract done, which they ultimately did. A week or so after Ryan's deal was done, the Bills wanted to re-open negotiations, but when it quickly became apparent that we wouldn't be able to get a deal done, Stevie decided that it was best to wait until the end of the year before talking about his contract again." Basically, he is saying that Stevie wanted to wait til the offseason to negotiate his contract, even when the Bills approached him to negotiate after getting Fitzs deal done, he still wanted to wait til after this weekend The guy says he wants to be here, the team has opened discussions multiple times to try and re-sign him, and his side says they want to wait til the offseason to negotiate. Can we atleast say No More Stevie Contract Posts until either - A. He has a new deal signed, or B. its the End of February 2012????? Who needs to "come" the F___ down? I feel pretty good about this. I was under the impression he wanted $9M. This is a no-brainer. I refuse to believe that OBD could mess this up. If it's a no-brainer, one has to wonder why the Bills didn't accept the offer that was proposed by Stevie's agents… or at least counter offer which they also didn't do. If you believe the story, there's a big gap between Stevie and the Bills. And it sounds like the Bills think his value is closer to $5-6 million per year. This article does nothing to lessen my concern about losing Stevie. Edited December 29, 2011 by San Jose Bills Fan
John from Riverside Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I want them to pay him but realize that they cant go dumpster diving for the guy opposite of him.......we need ANOTHER QUALITY RECEIVER
BuffaloBaumer Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 So instead of signing after Fitz, he wanted to risk possible injury and wait until after the season? Translation - let's see what a contender might offer me......
Beerball Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Everyone needs to come the F*** down about this negotiations. Free Agency doesn't start for another 2 1/2 months, the seasons not even over yet and people act around here as if it starts Monday This is a quote from teh WGR article from his agent "We were approached to do a deal prior to the season starting," said Laboy. "When it became clear that the two sides were too far apart, we agreed that it would be best to shelve negotiations and allow Stevie to focus on the season. Stevie never wanted his contract status to be a distraction to him or his teammates. At that time, the Bills turned their focus on getting Ryan [Fitzpatrick]s contract done, which they ultimately did. A week or so after Ryans deal was done, the Bills wanted to re-open negotiations, but when it quickly became apparent that we wouldnt be able to get a deal done, Stevie decided that it was best to wait until the end of the year before talking about his contract again." Basically, he is saying that Stevie wanted to wait til the offseason to negotiate his contract, even when the Bills approached him to negotiate after getting Fitzs deal done, he still wanted to wait til after this weekend The guy says he wants to be here, the team has opened discussions multiple times to try and re-sign him, and his side says they want to wait til the offseason to negotiate. Can we atleast say No More Stevie Contract Posts until either - A. He has a new deal signed, or B. its the End of February 2012????? The way I read that piece Johnson's asking price has always been in the neighborhood of $7.5M yet the sides were $2M apart. That type of negotiating should concern you. If not for Johnson then for those who come next. (I know that it is insane money compared to anything real people earn, but this isn't real people we're talking about.) Johnson might forget about the Bills lowball offer. The next guy(s) might tell Overdorf to go pound sand. All this is assuming that the reports are accurate.
snamsnoops Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 sign em n then trade his ass for a sweeeet 4th round pick!
metzelaars_lives Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Add me to the "if this is all he's really asking and the Bills don't sign him, then (fill in the blank)..." crowd. I'm taking this at face value but if it's true, they better f'n pay the man.
apuszczalowski Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Who needs to "come" the F___ down? Between that one, and constantly mis typing the word THE as TEH......... If it's a no-brainer, one has to wonder why the Bills didn't accept the offer that was proposed by Stevie's agents… or at least counter offer which they also didn't do. If you believe the story, there's a big gap between Stevie and the Bills. And it sounds like the Bills think his value is closer to $5-6 million per year. This article does nothing to lessen my concern about losing Stevie. Its negotiations, you always counter with something much lower then what the other is offering and go from there. I personally think that Stevie is worth more in the $5-6 mil range like the Bills do because I believe he is more of a #2 WR then a #1, and that his numbers are inflated by being the best WR of a no name WR core, and an offence that loves to throw the ball. He doesn't make those spectacular catches you see the top guys making, and has dropped multiple "easy" (for an NFL WR) catches in critical situations in his short 2 year career. 5 years at $25 to 30 mil, with a $10 to 15 mil signing bonus is around what I would offer him
Stealth Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 If true that is a bargain for a 25 year old wr, who will probably post back 2 back 1000 yard seasons and 16 tds in that span.
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