Lenigmusx Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) In 3 games this year Buffalo Defense was among the most agressive in the league. When the Defense played a style of attack and persue football they were successful. Every time they settle into Edwards read and react hybrid B.S. the gave up HUGE Chunks of yardage and tons of points. K.C. - 213 Total net Yards Matt Cassel- 22/36 - 119 1 TD 1 Int Jamal Charles 10 att 56 yds (Alot after the game was decided) Attacked KC from the beginning of the game brought a pass rush and got in Cassel face! Redskins- 178 total net yards John Beck 20/33 208 yds 0 TDs 2 ints Ryan Torain 8 att 14 yds Attacked John Beck beginning to end of the game Denver- 293 total net yards Tim Tebow- 13/30 185 yds 1 TD 4 ints Willis McGahee 15 att 64 yds Attacked Tebow made him roll right and try to to make impossible throws against the grain (Actually they did this a little against Michael Vick too and even though it was working inexplicable stopped). They were in his face all day! Buffalo total yds over the 3 games- 1105 Total points- 104 Opponents total yards over the 3 games- 783 Total points- 20 The point being when they attacked they were successful. However they were afraid to attack much of the year and everytime Edwards settled into a read and react Defense they were unsuccessful. It doesn't matter if it is a 3/4 or a 4/3 players need to be in a position to use their talents to be successful and help the team. Saturday was a perfect example. Case and point is Chris Kelsay: Many of us have ridiculed Kelsey's play for years but Saturday he looked like a Pro Bowler. This was because someone finally figured out how to free him up in space using him sometimes as a D end sometimes as and OLB. He had space to shed his first blocker and when this happened he was able to set the edge and then attack. This is his skill set who cares if he is labeled OLB or DE use his skill set. What made this possible was the attack first mentality of the line and the linebackers. It would seem that less attention was paid to Gap responsibility and more attention was paid to getting up field and attacking the ball carrier. A la the Baltimore Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steelers (Dick Labeau). This will create vulnerablity to cut back runners (Chris Johnson) and screen teams the Patriots but that can be game planned as well. The attack first style of Defense just fits the majority of this teams players skill sets much better than the read and react style. This "D" can not function in Walt Corey's bend but don't break 3/4 because it will break everytime. Today's NFL is not well suited to that type of Defense anyway. In the other 12 games this year Buffalos opponents have gained- 4683 yds The Bills have Gained- 4117 yds In these games Buffalo was out gained by 566 total yds 3 of these games were victories but I would say none of them feature the Mr. Jeckl Defense but instead the Dr. Hyde mambee pambee read and react Defense. This would indicate that the Offense is indeed good enough and perhaps the Defense is good enough as well if Edwards would be more agreessive and abondon the read and react and run some Zone Blitz packages so on and so forth. This team could be 9-5 right now but the hope is after watching film and analyzing the season a new defensive coordinator could make this team a 12-4 team next year. We shall see but at least the team is young. Edited December 27, 2011 by Lenigmusx
jjmac Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 I agree but look at the offense we just attacked. I will be a different story come Sunday.
Lenigmusx Posted December 27, 2011 Author Posted December 27, 2011 I agree but look at the offense we just attacked. I will be a different story come Sunday. Will the result be any different if we attack or if we get burned sitting on our heels playing read and react? A TD for the opponent is 6 pts either way if we attack maybe Brady will throw 4 picks again.
jjmac Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 Will the result be any different if we attack or if we get burned sitting on our heels playing read and react? A TD for the opponent is 6 pts either way if we attack maybe Brady will throw 4 picks again. My point is that Denver's offense is more basic than NE's.
Lenigmusx Posted December 27, 2011 Author Posted December 27, 2011 My point is that Denver's offense is more basic than NE's. And you are 100% correct I would just rather go down swinging if we are going to go down.
jjmac Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 And you are 100% correct I would just rather go down swinging if we are going to go down. Oh, I agree. I just don't expect the same results.
Lenigmusx Posted December 27, 2011 Author Posted December 27, 2011 Oh, I agree. I just don't expect the same results. Here's to 7-9!!
jjmac Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 Here's to 7-9!! If the Patriots win, I believe they wrap up the #1 seed. I expect they'll play their starters just long enough to put the game out of reach, and then bring in their backups.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 And you are 100% correct I would just rather go down swinging if we are going to go down. This. Plus, we were pretty aggressive against NE in the first game, and it worked. 4 picks by Brady, several of them forced.
bowery4 Posted December 27, 2011 Posted December 27, 2011 The first Pats game we played a predominant (with variations, including a 3/5) 3/4 more (which is the Bill's tendency against teams with a good oline and "in the pocket" passer) against the teams that had a runner for a QB, or just a strong running game we played much more 4/3 (Cinny being the exception and then their young QB lite it up). I think that is the Jekyll and Hyde our 4/3 is better personnel and maybe coaching wise. I think Edwards or who ever came up with our "Hybrid" has overthunk it and honestly just made it too complicated. I thought so at the end of last season when all the players stated getting it more, and then we had pretty big turn over in key positions coming into the year but the D did okay. This year we had turnover because of injury, and it dropped off. I think it is just hard to plug and play, players into it, seems too complicated to me.
Lenigmusx Posted December 27, 2011 Author Posted December 27, 2011 The first Pats game we played a predominant (with variations, including a 3/5) 3/4 more (which is the Bill's tendency against teams with a good oline and "in the pocket" passer) against the teams that had a runner for a QB, or just a strong running game we played much more 4/3 (Cinny being the exception and then their young QB lite it up). I think that is the Jekyll and Hyde our 4/3 is better personnel and maybe coaching wise. I think Edwards or who ever came up with our "Hybrid" has overthunk it and honestly just made it too complicated. I thought so at the end of last season when all the players stated getting it more, and then we had pretty big turn over in key positions coming into the year but the D did okay. This year we had turnover because of injury, and it dropped off. I think it is just hard to plug and play, players into it, seems too complicated to me. 4/3 amd or 3/4 aside it is a problem with the approach when this defense attacks it creates turnover opportunities! Even if they give up yards the will win if they turn the ball over. When they play read and react they are on the heels and still give up a ton of points and it is compounded by the fact that they don't create turnovers when they are passive. This then puts pressure on Fitz and he self-destructs creating a double edge sword that the team can not overcome. IMO
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