maddenboy Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) If you could trade our entire offense for Green Bay's offense, and keep our Defense intact, OR trade our entire defense for San Francisco's defense but keep our offense, which would you choose? And why? I say the Niners defense. Easy. They are young, strong, hungry. They are what we wish we were. If we had the Packers offense, they would only get 5 or 6 possessions per game, because teams would pound our defense to death playing keep-away. But with a top defense, our Offense would get more chances, and Fitz wouldnt have to try to win every game. Then we could take our time in FA and Draft to build up our offense. Can I get my linebackers now? (If I can get one of the top 3 qbs this year, I will take him. Otherwise, front 7 for at least the first 3 picks). You cant have too many linebackers and pass rushers. That's why the Giants keep drafting DEs and the Steelers keep drafting linebackers. And the Bills keep drafting running backs. Edited December 20, 2011 by maddenboy
Homey D. Clown Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Trade defenses, but cut Donte Whitner, I watched that game very intently on defense to see if he looked any different on a good defense. He did not. He was very good at not being around the ball and putting hard hits on receivers downfield, and tackling well after a long gain. It has been said that since we let him go, he has become a great player, and that the Bills just can't coach players, I respectfully disagree with that notion.
RealityCheck Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I'll take the Packers offense any day of the week. An early lead makes a bad defense look a whole lot better. Besides, we would actually have an authentic franchise QB for years to come. Draft some pass rushers and you've got a strong playoff team.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I agree with taking the offense. Its easier to defend teams that have to come back from behind.
MRM33064 Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 The offense, because it comes with the superstar QB which is, by a longshot, the most important position in the NFL. Not even close.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I like the niners defense they play aggressive and have a legitimate pass rusher that disrupts. Whaat we need is someone like Smith on the outside
NewEra Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I'd trade our entire offense for Aaron Rodgers. GB offense by a long shot.
markgbe Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 DEFENSE. GB offense got beat by KC... not outscored. it was.................... everyone with me now.... DEFENSE.
BuffaloBaumer Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I'll take Green Bay's defense and San Fran's offense over this pile of garbage we have here.
NewEra Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 1324391202[/url]' post='2341033']DEFENSE. GB offense got beat by KC... not outscored. it was.................... everyone with me now.... DEFENSE. You're talking abut me game sir. 1324391204[/url]' post='2341034']I'll take Green Bay's defense and San Fran's offense over this pile of garbage we have here. Lol
Buftex Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Gotta take the Packers offense, easpecially if Aaron Rogers comes included. NFL football, right now, is all about offense...the rules are stacked against great defense. I'd trade our entire offense for Aaron Rodgers. GB offense by a long shot. Exactly! An elite offense, with the way the rules are now, will shred the best defenses.
markgbe Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I'm pretty surprised most people picked offense so far. Another problem with the "elite offense" argument... an elite offense inherently includes an elite QB. If said elite QB goes down, elite offense is dead. If an elite defensive player goes down, it's much easier to throw in another guy to fill in without disastrous results. Edited December 20, 2011 by markgbe
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I will take a healthy Packers offense over a healthy San Fran defense any day. The reason the packers lost is because of injuries. Playing 3rd string guys on their offensive line. I think that is more devastating than losing their #1 receiver. If they meet in the playoffs we will see who wins! My bet would be on the packers and winning big (they will have some of the guys back from injury at this point). However I still think the best team in the NFL is the New Orleans Saints right now with Drew Brees (I know the pack beat them week 1). I would rather have Brees over Rodgers. Edited December 20, 2011 by BuffaloBillsForever
papazoid Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I'm pretty surprised most people picked offense so far. Another problem with the "elite offense" argument... an elite offense inherently includes an elite QB. If said elite QB goes down, elite offense is dead. If an elite defensive player goes down, it's much easier to throw in another guy to fill in without disastrous results. like if kyle williams goes down, you can throw in troup ? this could be argued many ways, but if you could pick any player in the league to start a franchise with, your first pick would/should be a franchise QB and go from there. therefore, in this scenario, you take GB's offense over SF defense.
Ozymandius Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 lol at passing on Rodgers. overthought this one
apuszczalowski Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) Green Bay offence, hands down. That Offence is 13-1 right now with plenty of big wins. I also don't view the KC game as being a knock against the Packers team because I seriously believe that they threw the game against them. I believe that they intentionally lost to the Chiefs in order to get rid of the "perfect season" talk/pressure and allow them to focus on the playoffs and another Super Bowl win. A perfect season is nice, but overall its meaningless in the grand scheme of things unless you win the Super bowl. Maybe McCarthy learned from watching the Patriots and hearing the constant questions/talk of a "Perfect season" its not worth it. Losing to the Chiefs has very little impact on them and the NFC standings (compared to losing to the Bears this week) and now he can rest players without it looking like he doesn't care about going 16-0 The 49ers defence would be nice, but unless they can get points, your hoping that the defence can continue to play mistake free and hold the other team. The offences job is to score points, I would much prefer a team that is a serious threat to score and get back points if my defence gives up a TD or FG Edited December 20, 2011 by apuszczalowski
thewildrabbit Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I'd take either, but only If the coaching staff comes with them
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Lets see how it shakes out in the playoffs. I hope the two teams play each other and I suspect the Packers would win handily.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Lets see how it shakes out in the playoffs. I hope the two teams play each other and I suspect the Packers would win handily. They will end up meeting a high powered offense spread offense one way or another (Saints, Packers). Despite their record I don't think they are as good as their record shows. Surely their defense is all cracked up to what it is but they play in the weakest division in football. I don't think they match up well to either of these teams. Packers and Saints defense you can make plays on but they are opportunistic with turnovers. Having a great defense alone isn't enough to win championships anymore like it was in the past. The game has changed alot. I have a hard time thinking the 49ers will be able to beat two high powered offenses potentially like the Saints and Packers to get to the SB.
716 Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 I'd take either, but only If the coaching staff comes with them
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