Talley56 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Florence has taken a lot of criticism and it has been well deserved. But what did everyone thing of the TD pass to Brandon Marshall in the 3rd quarter? I know, why dwell on one play? I only ask because we debated this at the Bills bar I was at. I personally felt like Florence covered him as well as anyone could have and Matt Moore just threw a perfect pass. Even someone like Revis, IMO, could not have done any better in coverage. So what's the verdict, good pass or poor coverage?
Maury Ballstein Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I say let him go.....not impressed with him...he gets beat deep too easily....especially by guys with faster wheels than B Marshall....
GOBILLS78 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Florence has taken a lot of criticism and it has been well deserved. But what did everyone thing of the TD pass to Brandon Marshall in the 3rd quarter? I know, why dwell on one play? I only ask because we debated this at the Bills bar I was at. I personally felt like Florence covered him as well as anyone could have and Matt Moore just threw a perfect pass. Even someone like Revis, IMO, could not have done any better in coverage. So what's the verdict, good pass or poor coverage? I completely agree. He was with him step-for-step and the ball was dropped in there perfectly. His pursuit kinda blew, but the coverage was good.
NewEra Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Agreed. He's had his share of ups and downs this year. He's not the player we was for us a couple years back, but he's still an adequate cover guy that.
jkrules Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 The coverage may have been adequate but he did not make a play on the ball to knock it down or intercept it. That is the problem with the Bill's DB's, they do not make plays on the ball. Covering the player is only half the battle. Lastly, the DB's for the Bills are not aggressive enough with players off the line. Players like Marshall need to be disrupted at the line.
GOBILLS78 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 The coverage may have been adequate but he did not make a play on the ball to knock it down or intercept it. That is the problem with the Bill's DB's, they do not make plays on the ball. Covering the player is only half the battle. Lastly, the DB's for the Bills are not aggressive enough with players off the line. Players like Marshall need to be disrupted at the line. He did try to make a play on the ball. It was out of his reach.
bladiebla Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I'm not sure if he should have gone for the ball as he did, but fact is that was one perfectly thrown ball.
KD in CA Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Florence has the same problem as half the team; he's a backup caliber player in a starting role.
QB Bills Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) He faintly whined to the ref for a push off even though Marshall never touched him. Loser. He had no chance on that play though. Having said that, he is terrible. From what I've seen, since McGee went down, Justin Rogers has been the only corner doing anything out there. Also, did anyone notice Florence's coverage on one of the first Miami punts? He pretty much just moved to one side and gave the rusher a clear line to the returner. And forgetting his horrible play, he seems to chirp more than anyone else out there. And I've never seen anyone swat away the ball as much as he does when they should be going for the pick. Between him and McKelvin, we must have two of the dumbest players in the league. Edited December 19, 2011 by QB Bills
RealityCheck Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I only know one thing, if Fitz threw that ball, Florence takes it to the house.
Max997 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Florence has taken a lot of criticism and it has been well deserved. But what did everyone thing of the TD pass to Brandon Marshall in the 3rd quarter? I know, why dwell on one play? I only ask because we debated this at the Bills bar I was at. I personally felt like Florence covered him as well as anyone could have and Matt Moore just threw a perfect pass. Even someone like Revis, IMO, could not have done any better in coverage. So what's the verdict, good pass or poor coverage? the coverage wasnt great but wasnt awful...the bigger problem is not making a play on the ball or the freaking tackle I used to defend Florence but its time to move on
Buftex Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Florence has the same problem as half the team; he's a backup caliber player in a starting role. He has a cool, distinctive, name, so I think people are enamored with him more than his play warrents. He was on his way to becoming a "journeymen" before he came to Buffalo, likely for a reason. Five disappointing seasons with the Chargers, and then one very disappointing season with Jacksonville. To the OPs point, it is true, Florence was with the receiver stride for stride, it was just a perfect pass... Edited December 19, 2011 by Buftex
GOBILLS78 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 He has a cool, distinctive, name, so I think people are enamored with him more than his play warrents. He was a "journeymen" before he came to Buffalo, likely for a reason. Yes, it's the name. It's no wonder everybody's clamoring to bring back Peerless Price. After all, they need a deep threat. I can't believe I'm defending Florence, but he's not even in the discussion, in my opinion, about this team's biggest problems. There are many, many scapegoats to go around.
apuszczalowski Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I only know one thing, if Fitz threw that ball, Florence takes it to the house. But I thought everyone said that Florence was "stride for stride" with the WR? If Fitz threw the Ball, it would have been overthrown to both of them then
PromoTheRobot Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Just a year ago were we're angry the Bills might let Drayton walk. PTR
jjmac Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 A perfect throw beats perfect coverage every time. I'm more concerned about the times when he doesn't have perfect coverage.
GOBILLS78 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 But I thought everyone said that Florence was "stride for stride" with the WR? If Fitz threw the Ball, it would have been overthrown to both of them then Underthrown.
Joaquin1119 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 That was a good pass..Overall i starting to think maybe its not really our players that is playing poor.. It has to do with edwards, his play calling is a fail Underthrown. under throw and over throw
GOBILLS78 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 That was a good pass..Overall i starting to think maybe its not really our players that is playing poor.. It has to do with edwards, his play calling is a fail under throw and over throw Haha, thanks. Let me clarify: Somewhere not in a Bills receiver's hands.
Maddog69 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Our DBs are decent. The problem is that we have no pass rush to disrupt the passing game so the QBs have the time to sit back there and then make a perfect throw. DBs cannot cover a good WR for that long if the QB is completely untouched, they will get picked apart like they have all season. How many times has one of our DBs been right with the receiver but the QB drops the ball in perfectly? I remember atleast a half dozen highlight reel bombs against us where the DB is in position but just gets beat. We need pass rush desperately.
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