ieatcrayonz Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 For years I have been listening to everyone say we should have picked Ngata over Whitner. Well you know what, this year is pretty much proving otherwise. Baltimore's defense is looking old and tired while SF's is flourishing right after they added Whitner. Linemen like Ngata wear down quickly plus they aren't as important in today's NFL. Stud DBs like Whitner make a difference on every part of the field. Think of it like this: Football players are like chess pieces. The pawns are up front, they are typically the first ones to move, but they are not able to do a lot of things. This is just like a lineman. DBs are like bishops and rooks and stuff. You never see them coming and you don't know what hit you. Can we finally put the Whitner/Ngata whining to rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReichComeback Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 For years I have been listening to everyone say we should have picked Ngata over Whitner. Well you know what, this year is pretty much proving otherwise. Baltimore's defense is looking old and tired while SF's is flourishing right after they added Whitner. Linemen like Ngata wear down quickly plus they aren't as important in today's NFL. Stud DBs like Whitner make a difference on every part of the field. Think of it like this: Football players are like chess pieces. The pawns are up front, they are typically the first ones to move, but they are not able to do a lot of things. This is just like a lineman. DBs are like bishops and rooks and stuff. You never see them coming and you don't know what hit you. Can we finally put the Whitner/Ngata whining to rest? Uh I hardly think that Whitner is the reason why San Fran's defense is good this year. He's playing good but he's not the Pro Bowl calibre player that he was expected to be when taken #8 overall. He was a very average player for our defense, and he's average for San Francisco though he's playing with better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 For years I have been listening to everyone say we should have picked Ngata over Whitner. Well you know what, this year is pretty much proving otherwise. Baltimore's defense is looking old and tired while SF's is flourishing right after they added Whitner. Linemen like Ngata wear down quickly plus they aren't as important in today's NFL. Stud DBs like Whitner make a difference on every part of the field. Think of it like this: Football players are like chess pieces. The pawns are up front, they are typically the first ones to move, but they are not able to do a lot of things. This is just like a lineman. DBs are like bishops and rooks and stuff. You never see them coming and you don't know what hit you. Can we finally put the Whitner/Ngata whining to rest? This will be fun to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 For years I have been listening to everyone say we should have picked Ngata over Whitner. Well you know what, this year is pretty much proving otherwise. Baltimore's defense is looking old and tired while SF's is flourishing right after they added Whitner. Linemen like Ngata wear down quickly plus they aren't as important in today's NFL. Stud DBs like Whitner make a difference on every part of the field. Think of it like this: Football players are like chess pieces. The pawns are up front, they are typically the first ones to move, but they are not able to do a lot of things. This is just like a lineman. DBs are like bishops and rooks and stuff. You never see them coming and you don't know what hit you. Can we finally put the Whitner/Ngata whining to rest? Your logic is inarguable. I concede. But you have to concede that the John McCargo pick was a bad one… you practically said it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Uh I hardly think that Whitner is the reason why San Fran's defense is good this year. He's playing good but he's not the Pro Bowl calibre player that he was expected to be when taken #8 overall. He was a very average player for our defense, and he's average for San Francisco though he's playing with better players He is not the only player on the team but he was a critical piece to the puzzle. They had neglected their DBs and when Harbaugh got there he realized he needed DBs like Whitner. Meanwhile Ngata's decline continues on national TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReichComeback Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 He is not the only player on the team but he was a critical piece to the puzzle. They had neglected their DBs and when Harbaugh got there he realized he needed DBs like Whitner. Meanwhile Ngata's decline continues on national TV. Since when is Whitner a "stud" DB? Polomalu is a stud SS. Ed Reed was a stud SS. Donte Whitner is a very average SS - not a "stud" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Your logic is inarguable. I concede. But you have to concede that the John McCargo pick was a bad one… you practically said it yourself. He is basically a pawn. He had a back back too. A pawn with a bad back has not won too many chess matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReichComeback Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Your logic is inarguable. I concede. But you have to concede that the John McCargo pick was a bad one… you practically said it yourself. McCargo was a move that really set us bad..in the grand scheme of our failure though I don't think that this major whiff was that huge of a set back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Since when is Whitner a "stud" DB? Polomalu is a stud SS. Ed Reed was a stud SS. Donte Whitner is a very average SS - not a "stud" Huh? SF and Pitt have about the same record. Polomalu is a good player with hair grown to draw attention to himself. Whitner is basically the same player but humble. Poz is a horrible player with beautiful hair. You can take the hype and production or just the production. I'm fine either way. I would take Polomalu over Ngata too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 He is basically a pawn. He had a back back too. A pawn with a bad back has not won too many chess matches. Nothing more important to a well-game played of Chess than pawn structure. Any good player will tell you the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Nothing more important to a well-game played of Chess than pawn structure. Any good player will tell you the same. But what about his point about a pawn with a bad back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 For years I have been listening to everyone say we should have picked Ngata over Whitner. Well you know what, this year is pretty much proving otherwise. Baltimore's defense is looking old and tired while SF's is flourishing right after they added Whitner. Linemen like Ngata wear down quickly plus they aren't as important in today's NFL. Stud DBs like Whitner make a difference on every part of the field. Think of it like this: Football players are like chess pieces. The pawns are up front, they are typically the first ones to move, but they are not able to do a lot of things. This is just like a lineman. DBs are like bishops and rooks and stuff. You never see them coming and you don't know what hit you. Can we finally put the Whitner/Ngata whining to rest? stop trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 But what about his point about a pawn with a bad back? Did it need to be said? I check all my pawns for scoliosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Huh? SF and Pitt have about the same record. Polomalu is a good player with hair grown to draw attention to himself. Whitner is basically the same player but humble. I'm going to assume that you're joking here. Typically, one wouldn't mention Whitner in the same breadth as Polamalu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReichComeback Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 stop trolling Trolling is a deliberate action. I think this guy actually believes Whitner is a stud DB. That should tell you all you need to know about his acumen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 For years I have been listening to everyone say we should have picked Ngata over Whitner. Well you know what, this year is pretty much proving otherwise. Baltimore's defense is looking old and tired while SF's is flourishing right after they added Whitner. Linemen like Ngata wear down quickly plus they aren't as important in today's NFL. Stud DBs like Whitner make a difference on every part of the field. Think of it like this: Football players are like chess pieces. The pawns are up front, they are typically the first ones to move, but they are not able to do a lot of things. This is just like a lineman. DBs are like bishops and rooks and stuff. You never see them coming and you don't know what hit you. Can we finally put the Whitner/Ngata whining to rest? perfect logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Nothing more important to a well-game played of Chess than pawn structure. Any good player will tell you the same. And chess hasn't evolved in thousands of years. In the last 5 years the "bishops and rooks" of football have basically taken over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 And chess hasn't evolved in thousands of years. In the last 5 years the "bishops and rooks" of football have basically taken over. Oh yeah? http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=222671&title=games-the-annihilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Someone has time to waste tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 For years I have been listening to everyone say we should have picked Ngata over Whitner. Well you know what, this year is pretty much proving otherwise. Baltimore's defense is looking old and tired while SF's is flourishing right after they added Whitner. Linemen like Ngata wear down quickly plus they aren't as important in today's NFL. Stud DBs like Whitner make a difference on every part of the field. Think of it like this: Football players are like chess pieces. The pawns are up front, they are typically the first ones to move, but they are not able to do a lot of things. This is just like a lineman. DBs are like bishops and rooks and stuff. You never see them coming and you don't know what hit you. Can we finally put the Whitner/Ngata whining to rest? If Ngata never ever has another good play, his career far outshines that of Donte Whitner even if Whitner plays another 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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