Wagon Circler Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I am surprised to see all these positive articles about Kelvin sheppard. I guess there isn't much good news with this team. I have been watching him very carefully these last few games and think he has been absolutely awful.He overpersues and gives up cutback lanes. Anyone else agree?
GOBILLS78 Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I am surprised to see all these positive articles about Kelvin sheppard. I guess there isn't much good news with this team. I have been watching him very carefully these last few games and think he has been absolutely awful.He overpersues and gives up cutback lanes. Anyone else agree? "Awful" is probably a bit too strong, in my opinion. He's played like a rookie.
Homey D. Clown Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 He's gotten to start a few games, and he's a shiny new toy that "appears" to have earned his way onto the starting roster, so, just like Moats, he seems to be good.... for now. But the reality is that the team has no other options at this point, so take it for what it's worth.
DrDawkinstein Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Agreed with GOBILLS "Absolutely awful" is extreme. He's a rookie playing on a shaky defense that has 4 other rookies starting/playing. We've seen worse from our LBs and Im optimistic he'll improve as he gets comfortable. He was the heart and soul of a top tier LSU defense. Once he decides to take over, and we get him a little help at OLB, I think we'll have quite a LB.
DDD Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Someone on this site suggested Mike Mayock become GM for the Bills. After the Sheppard pick, Mayock said Sheppard projected as a reserve in the NFL.
Spun Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 The NFL is a big leap from college. It is o much more of everything especially in regards to speed. He is a rook, he has lot to learn.
K-9 Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Someone on this site suggested Mike Mayock become GM for the Bills. After the Sheppard pick, Mayock said Sheppard projected as a reserve in the NFL. He also said Gabbert would be a better QB than Cam Newton. I wonder if he still thinks that. It'll be interesting to hear his commentary about Gabbert tonight. GO BILLS!!!
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I am surprised to see all these positive articles about Kelvin sheppard. I guess there isn't much good news with this team. I have been watching him very carefully these last few games and think he has been absolutely awful.He overpersues and gives up cutback lanes. Anyone else agree? Physically looks tough but in pass coverage he looks slow and lost and always gets tied up with blockers. He is no Poz, that is for sure.
K-9 Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Physically looks tough but in pass coverage he looks slow and lost and always gets tied up with blockers. He is no Poz, that is for sure. Sounds strangely like how Poz performed in the 34 for the Bills last season. GO BILLS!!!
DrDawkinstein Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Physically looks tough but in pass coverage he looks slow and lost and always gets tied up with blockers. He is no Poz, that is for sure. That actually sounds EXACTLY like the way people described Poz before he left. Only thing missing is "makes all his tackles 5yds past the LOS".
jahnyc Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I have tried to focus on his play, and I agree that he does not look good. Slow, out of position and does not match up well in coverage. I understand that he is a rookie, so hopefully his play will improve, but I have my doubts.
PDaDdy Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 He's a 3rd round pick rookie. Are you expecting Patrick Willis?
EldaBillsFan Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Only looks bad in pass coverage..... but in his defense with the TE's he has been stuck defending they'd make anyone look foolish...however he has become strong on run support....
BringBackFlutie Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Gailey said he's steadily improved over the past few weeks. Although Gailey also openly admits to not knowing what's going on on defense in games.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 The Bills staff coached Sheppard at the Senior Bowl and really liked him… they obviously got a good close-up look at him. He was considered the leader of the LSU defense. On the downside, while the Bills characterized him as a sideline to sideline defender, some scouting reports felt that his movement skills were very average. Like with many players, it could be one of these deals where he has to fit the system and role. It looks to me like he's been getting better but I don't think he's ever gonna be a 3-down linebacker.
Billy in 4C Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I am surprised to see all these positive articles about Kelvin sheppard. I guess there isn't much good news with this team. I have been watching him very carefully these last few games and think he has been absolutely awful.He overpersues and gives up cutback lanes. Anyone else agree? He got beat bad on a few counter runs the last two weeks. When matched up on the TE he is getting worked in pass coverage. His speed isn't bad and he is tackling fairly well when he gets in front of the guy. He's not a guy I want starting next year.
PDaDdy Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 He got beat bad on a few counter runs the last two weeks. When matched up on the TE he is getting worked in pass coverage. His speed isn't bad and he is tackling fairly well when he gets in front of the guy. He's not a guy I want starting next year. Again, he's a 3rd round pick rookie. What were you expecting year 1?
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Again, he's a 3rd round pick rookie. What were you expecting year 1? He could develop into a really good player… who knows for sure? At the time he was drafted I liked Mason Foster better as an ILB but I think I wanted the Bills to draft Luke Stocker (Tennessee TE) with that pick. I don't know how either of those players is doing though.
PDaDdy Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 He could develop into a really good player… who knows for sure? At the time he was drafted I liked Mason Foster better as an ILB but I think I wanted the Bills to draft Luke Stocker (Tennessee TE) with that pick. I don't know how either of those players is doing though. I think Sheppard starting says two things. They feel he is good enough and has enough upside to start. The second thing it probably says is that he is the best we have to offer anyway.
DrDawkinstein Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I think Sheppard starting says two things. They feel he is good enough and has enough upside to start. The second thing it probably says is that he is the best we have to offer anyway. And LB isnt like the QB position where if you start him too early you might break him. He needs as many reps as possible to develop. Keep him in and let's see how he does with a full camp next year.
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