3rdnlng Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=48128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Oh, but those contracts were negotiated, so it's all ok. Public employee unions have nothing to do with NYS being tens of billions in debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 So I can see my house from Space on my phone, there are Apps that instantly compare prices all over competing retail locations when I scan the bar code, but we have human beings sitting in a little compartment collecting money by hand for tolls? What's fair to do that job, 15-20/hr? Considering your will likely get Lung Cancer from doing it.... even that wage is generous. Unions get a bad name because they get greedy and are unwilling to be flexible... just ask GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 So I can see my house from Space on my phone, there are Apps that instantly compare prices all over competing retail locations when I scan the bar code, but we have human beings sitting in a little compartment collecting money by hand for tolls? In Jersey. Same state where it's illegal to pump your own gas, because it's a hazardous material... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 So I can see my house from Space on my phone, there are Apps that instantly compare prices all over competing retail locations when I scan the bar code, but we have human beings sitting in a little compartment collecting money by hand for tolls? What's fair to do that job, 15-20/hr? Considering your will likely get Lung Cancer from doing it.... even that wage is generous. Unions get a bad name because they get greedy and are unwilling to be flexible... just ask GM. Back a dozen or so years ago my city government was still doing payroll by hand. The mayor proposed computerizing it to save money. A many term city councilman stated at the meeting "but wouldn't that cut jobs"? Some of these politicians just don't get it. They are tied into the unions and the old way of doing things. Government doesn't produce income, it spends it. The less money going to the government the more money made in the private sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 So I can see my house from Space on my phone, there are Apps that instantly compare prices all over competing retail locations when I scan the bar code, but we have human beings sitting in a little compartment collecting money by hand for tolls? The illegals are afraid to apply for EZ-Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 In Jersey. Same state where it's illegal to pump your own gas, because it's a hazardous material... I ran into that in Oregon recently. Pulled in to fill my rental car, woman came out to start pumping and I genuinely thought it was a homeless person trying to earn a buck. She informed me that if a person is ever seen pumping their own gas, the attendant on duty could get arrested. I'm not sure how true that is, but the fact that it doesn't surprise me is telling enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I heard the reason that NJ has only full service stations because too many idiots would leave with the nozzles still in their gas tanks. Could have been an urban legend, but it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Honestly wish we had some toll roads in my state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The illegals are afraid to apply for EZ-Pass. The real issue is that most service jobs, and a lot of jobs in general, have become redundant with advances in technology. It's better to keep people employed than doing nothing, but the fact is that we have a lot of redundant employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I heard the reason that NJ has only full service stations because too many idiots would leave with the nozzles still in their gas tanks. Could have been an urban legend, but it makes sense. Wife and I were on a road trip and pulled into a rest stop in Ohio. I was cleaning the car windows while fueling. At the pump in front of us, a guy was in a heated discussion/argument with some woman. He got pissed off and drove off -- with the nozzle still in the tank. It flew out of the tank and smashed down on our car - missing my head by about a foot. Left a nasty dent on the car. Glad it wasn't my head or I probably wouldn't be writing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The real issue is that most service jobs, and a lot of jobs in general, have become redundant with advances in technology. It's better to keep people employed than doing nothing, but the fact is that we have a lot of redundant employment. No, it's not. The problem is that all the politicians think like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 "While commuters are forking over sometimes $10 to cross a bridge into or out of the Big Apple, they see no tangible benefits" $10? I wish. It's $12 now, with $13 for Verrazano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 No, it's not. The problem is that all the politicians think like you. It's not as simple as that. I think the biggest problem is the "hard landings" of transitioning economies. The "Education" system is so broken that it can't adapt as necessary so we end up where we are. There's no way an unskilled person who sits in a booth all day taking money should make much above minimum wage, much less enjoy a paycheck double that of a "professional" occupation like a nurse or teacher. That's absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 It's not as simple as that. I think the biggest problem is the "hard landings" of transitioning economies. The "Education" system is so broken that it can't adapt as necessary so we end up where we are. There's no way an unskilled person who sits in a booth all day taking money should make much above minimum wage, much less enjoy a paycheck double that of a "professional" occupation like a nurse or teacher. That's absolutely ridiculous. Of course, fixing that disparity is exactly how people justify unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 In Jersey. Same state where it's illegal to pump your own gas, because it's a hazardous material... crazy- thought I have seen some real buttplugs spill gas all over their car and the ground.... if they had only been smoking and dropped that cig..... No, that is mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 No, it's not. The problem is that all the politicians think like you. I'm not saying that I believe we should have so many public employees. My point is more that having high unemployment can mean social unrest and increase in drug use, violence, etc. People need to be occupied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm not saying that I believe we should have so many public employees. My point is more that having high unemployment can mean social unrest and increase in drug use, violence, etc. People need to be occupied. That's why we have major league sports. Bread and circuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm not saying that I believe we should have so many public employees. My point is more that having high unemployment can mean social unrest and increase in drug use, violence, etc. People need to be occupied. I hear you. I'm not saying we should dump an extra 10 million useless government employees into the street overnight either. But we need to start figuring it out and right now we are still moving in the wrong direction. We can't build a growing economy by continuing to expand the rolls of $100,000 tollbooth collectors and ex-train conductors with $250,000/year disability retirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 That's why we have major league sports. Bread and circuses. They need to throw more religious minorities to the Detroit Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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