BigBuff423 Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 I have to disagree with the original poster: the Defense has certainly been piss-poor and under-achieving but Dareus is one of the true bright spots on this Defense thus far. His stats do NOT tell the story and the absence of Kyle Williams only exacerbates the lack of statistics but yet underscores his future value....I think Dareus had a solid Rookie season all things considered and look forward to seeing what he can do next to a health KW!! Go BILLS!!
Bills(70) Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 I think Marcell would look better if the Bills had a greyhound on the end that could rush the passer and take away the OL's attention You mean like a Maybin? I kid...I kid...
EldaBillsFan Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 You mean like a Maybin? I kid...I kid... No don't kid....the fans and media ran maybin out of town......look at how look it took for mario williams to be an impact player.....its about patience when building a good defensive team
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 No don't kid....the fans and media ran maybin out of town......look at how look it took for mario williams to be an impact player.....its about patience when building a good defensive team +1 It took Bruce Smith a couple years (and Talley and Bennett on the line) to get really good. Eventually, he dominated . . . but it took awhile.
K-9 Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) No don't kid....the fans and media ran maybin out of town......look at how look it took for mario williams to be an impact player.....its about patience when building a good defensive team Nobody ran Maybin out of town except Aaron Maybin. Period. Gee, if we only had Maybin we'd be playoff bound. Laughable. GO BILLS!!! Edited December 7, 2011 by K-9
Observer Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 No don't kid....the fans and media ran maybin out of town......look at how look it took for mario williams to be an impact player.....its about patience when building a good defensive team MAybe you didn't see Aaron Maybin in Buffalo. You know what he'd be doing as a Bills player? The same thing he did for the last 3 years. If you think that by the end of his contract, Aaron Maybin would have been a good player, you're loco.
EldaBillsFan Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Nobody ran Maybin out of town except Aaron Maybin. Period. Gee, if we only had Maybin we'd be playoff bound. Laughable. GO BILLS!!! If maybin was lazy, a trouble maker, not a good teammate, didn't practice or practice hard then its would have been him.... his issue was he couldn't maintain a certain weight and the Bills knew that..... they knew he was a speed edge pass rusher..... Its easy for the organization to dump a player when seemingly the whole city wants him gone because they think a 21-22! Year old is a bust! Cmon .... if everyone was patient and used him correctly we'd see the results....people were calling Spiller a bust and he only started on game, now he has 2 starts under his belt and everyone is see why he was drafted.... patience,patience,patience....so when I hear talk about Dareus and people are complaining about him its foolish Edited December 7, 2011 by EldaBillsFan
KD in CA Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Nice article on MD. This guy is a stud. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20111203/SPORTS03/112030330/Buffalo-Bills-Marcell-Dareus?odyssey=obinsite
K-9 Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 If maybin was lazy, a trouble maker, not a good teammate, didn't practice or practice hard then its would have been him.... his issue was he couldn't maintain a certain weight and the Bills knew that..... they knew he was a speed edge pass rusher..... Its easy for the organization to dump a player when seemingly the whole city wants him gone because they think a 21-22! Year old is a bust! Cmon .... if everyone was patient and used him correctly we'd see the results....people were calling Spiller a bust and he only started on game, now he has 2 starts under his belt and everyone is see why he was drafted.... patience,patience,patience....so when I hear talk about Dareus and people are complaining about him its foolish Like I said, Maybin ran himself off the Bills. For whatever reason. Anybody who would complain about the season Dareus is having either hasn't watched him play every game and/or doesn't know a damn thing about the game. He's an explosive, disruptive force that teams have to account for that can play multiple positions along the line which affords us a ton of flexibility. Injuries to KW, SM, and Kelsay have hurt his development more than anything. He's gonna be a good one for a long time. GO BILLS!!!
JTO Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Way too early to determine with the crappy DC on Buffalos payroll. Ask me again once Edwards is fired and Kyle, Merriman (healthy) are back.
bbb Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Can anyone tell me how many yards a game rushing we're allowing this year compared to last year? Thanks. Last year = a lot. This year = a lot.
bbb Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Nice article on MD. This guy is a stud. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20111203/SPORTS03/112030330/Buffalo-Bills-Marcell-Dareus?odyssey=obinsite Thanks - this seems to sum it up very well. And, what I was saying earlier is what Gailey is saying. This is not a position that you notice unless there are sacks: Dareus' rookie season has been competent, but not great. There are some who have been disappointed that he hasn't been more of a dominant player on the Bills' defensive line as he has only 29 tackles, 3.5 sacks and 1 fumble recovery. No one on One Bills Drive is concerned, though. "The only time people notice defensive linemen is when they get sacks," Gailey said. "He's still playing extremely well, plays hard, is a major factor inside versus the run and is learning to better transition from run to pass rush, which is a hard thing to do. I think he's getting better. He's continuing to progress. I don't think he's taken a step back at all." Dareus had one great game against Washington where he had 2.5 sacks. Otherwise, he's been good, he knows he has to take it up a notch, and in time he believes he will. "My responsibility is to stay patient, hold my double teams, and I think I'm doing what they want me to do," he said. "You can get stats if you hustle and that's the main thing. My role is to do whatever they want me to do and I love it."
T master Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Well, as long as we are whipping the dogs on this team it brings me to ask all Buffalo Bills fans an honest question. Has Marcell Dareus lived up to your expectations this year? I will answer it with a NO. I sure expected him to be way more dominate on the D line for us. He showed some flashes in a game or two and that's been about it. I thought he was going to be that run stopper up the middle for us and I just haven't seen it yet. Our defense seems like it's worse than years past. WTF! Flame away! You can't expect one player to do it all !! He was doing much better when other D coordinators didn't focus on one player which i think they have been able to do with the lose of Williams , Merriman & others on the Bills D !!!
Bufcomments Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 to the OP ...are you downplay a guy who gets double team on every play???? Seriously?? I think once Kyle comes back and Merriman (hopefully) or somebody that can get to the QB off the edge Dareus is Pro bowl worthy even next year.
John Cocktosten Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Pro football focus lists the top DT'/3-4 DE's so far this year and the Bills very own Marcel Dareus is right up there at the top with the best of them. For all you saying that he's not looking good keep in mind that DT/NT/3-4 DE is one of the most physically demanding positions in the game and usually has one of the biggest learning curves for rookies. He's playing more games than he ever has and doesn't get a break with the occasional Alcorn St. game. If the Bills had a competent edge rusher MD's efforts would be getting noticed even more. http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/11/30/pass-rushing-productivity-the-story-so-far/ Hopefully Buddy gets his mind right on draft day and pulls the trigger on at least 3 or 4 OLB's/DE's who can get after the passer and are not from D2 schools.
Fixxxer Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 This is Comedy. I'm staying the hell away from this turd of a thread. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: Did I say that outloud? Yes, this is unreal, but that is how interwebs work.
ieatcrayonz Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Pro football focus lists the top DT'/3-4 DE's so far this year and the Bills very own Marcel Dareus is right up there at the top with the best of them. For all you saying that he's not looking good keep in mind that DT/NT/3-4 DE is one of the most physically demanding positions in the game and usually has one of the biggest learning curves for rookies. He's playing more games than he ever has and doesn't get a break with the occasional Alcorn St. game. If the Bills had a competent edge rusher MD's efforts would be getting noticed even more. http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/11/30/pass-rushing-productivity-the-story-so-far/ Hopefully Buddy gets his mind right on draft day and pulls the trigger on at least 3 or 4 OLB's/DE's who can get after the passer and are not from D2 schools. He might even be better if Williams waited for the ink on his new contract to dry before getting "injured".
BiggieScooby Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Watching him knock Colt McCoy out in one ordinary hit made me wonder, than I saw that ESPN Sports Science show "bad things man!"
Fan in Chicago Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Pro football focus lists the top DT'/3-4 DE's so far this year and the Bills very own Marcel Dareus is right up there at the top with the best of them. Hopefully Buddy gets his mind right on draft day and pulls the trigger on at least 3 or 4 OLB's/DE's who can get after the passer and are not from D2 schools. Nice to see him up there in the top 10 already. I like what I see from this year's draft class so far with Dareus, Williams, Hairston, Searcy contributing in a positive way even though the latter three got their chances due to injuries. We can only hope next year's draft is equally impressive and we would be on our way
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