....lybob Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 1997-Levy is senile and soft, Wade will bring some knock the snot out of you machismo back. 2000- Wade is a Dumbass who doesn't know what he's doing, Williams is smart and organized. 2003- Greggie is a pompous arrogant pretender who can't lead, Mularkey is the real deal 2005- Mularkey is a crazy crybaby, Jauron will be the stabilizing factor this team needs 2009- Jauron is a emotionless robot, Chan Chan he's our man if he can't do it........
billsfan714 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 I am on your side!!! F$tzmoney is up to 22 TD and 19 INTs. It's bad enough the DEF is terrible but if you give the ball away then your gonna lose What are his stats during this 7 game slide.
12Kachy Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 What are his stats during this 7 game slide. 12 INTs, 8 TDs and 4 fumbles
Best Player Available Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Lets see CJ has a great series scores a TD. Next series Choice comes in. I have a problem with Chans playcalling lately, lots of people say he loves his passing game with Fitz. But Fitz is playing poorly why not CJ get 25 carries just to see what he can do with high touches. We need a new coaching staff. I say blow it up again. 7 losses in a row has alot to do with coaching on offense and defense. Very well put. As for the blowing it up again, I doubt it. The coaching is bush league right now. 1997-Levy is senile and soft, Wade will bring some knock the snot out of you machismo back. 2000- Wade is a Dumbass who doesn't know what he's doing, Williams is smart and organized. 2003- Greggie is a pompous arrogant pretender who can't lead, Mularkey is the real deal 2005- Mularkey is a crazy crybaby, Jauron will be the stabilizing factor this team needs 2009- Jauron is a emotionless robot, Chan Chan he's our man if he can't do it........ 2011 Gailey was really our only choice.
billsfan714 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Buddy Nix-You wouldnt believe the calls we had about our head coach vacancy. The NT, Lancaster and Orchard Park coaches all called about it.
Geno Smith's Arm Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Fitz made plays today, and missed plays today. He's stopped playing gutsy and started playing conservatively with his throws. Less interceptions, but he doesn't feel like the Fitz I knew and loved. He is getting more accurate (slowly), though not in the deep throwing game. Brad Smith is finally stepping up, Spiller looks better every game he plays. We're gonna have talent in a year or two. And I'm just as tired of saying that as the rest of you are, FYI. I have been a supporter of Fitz until today. I realized that though he is capable of playing really well, he has a hard time when he gets into a slump. He isn't tough enough mentally to lead a team through a whole season. I have noticed a few times this year where he has childishly whipped the ball at open receivers way too hard, on some critical plays, out of frustration.
FrankReichComeback Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Give me one....ONE....reason why we should not fire Chan Gailey. He will most likely lose 9 games in a row to close the season and this shows a glaring ineffectiveness at something he's doing. Recall back to 2008 - We went 4-1 and then finished 5-11 under Jauron. The positive people said "we need continuity with this franchise. We can't Dick Jauron." Well look how the 2009 season started. It was pathetic and we ended up firing Jauron any way. My point is - if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and sounds like a duck....then it probably is a duck. We need to fire Chan. Fitz made plays today, and missed plays today. He's stopped playing gutsy and started playing conservatively with his throws. Less interceptions, but he doesn't feel like the Fitz I knew and loved. He is getting more accurate (slowly), though not in the deep throwing game. Brad Smith is finally stepping up, Spiller looks better every game he plays. We're gonna have talent in a year or two. And I'm just as tired of saying that as the rest of you are, FYI. In a year or two? That sounds seriously pathetic.
Bufcomments Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Give me one....ONE....reason why we should not fire Chan Gailey. He will most likely lose 9 games in a row to close the season and this shows a glaring ineffectiveness at something he's doing. Recall back to 2008 - We went 4-1 and then finished 5-11 under Jauron. The positive people said "we need continuity with this franchise. We can't Dick Jauron." Well look how the 2009 season started. It was pathetic and we ended up firing Jauron any way. My point is - if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and sounds like a duck....then it probably is a duck. We need to fire Chan. In a year or two? That sounds seriously pathetic. when chan said in his presser than he doesnt think CJ can handle 25 carries. then why draft the guy #9 if you didnt think he could handle the load. It coaching like this that gets you fired is all im sayin.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Give me one....ONE....reason why we should not fire Chan Gailey. Injuries.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 another excuse pleeeaseee One might call "injuries" an excuse, but I'd call it a direct causal link. Check out how Aaron Rodgers did today with half his line injured and missing his best receiver...
The Senator Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Oh look, Chan has again decided to stop feeding Spiller the ball and instead is giving Choice carries. Spiller is averaging 8 yards a carry with a TD but Chan loves him those Georgia Tech guys. Not to mention he calls a wildcat play for Choice when we're paying Brad Smith $4m a season to be our wildcat specialist. GTFO Chan. I'm tired of your terrible game management. Your retarded play calling. And your retarded decision to not only hire George Edwards, but to support him and keep him on your staff. JUST GTFO So why isn't Josh Nesbitt our starting QB??? GO BILLSSS!!!! 7 and 9 baby!!!!
3rdand12 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) pro football review provided a report recently that proved we have had the most injuries in the NFL this season. It was recently. no linky. Edited December 18, 2011 by 3rdand12
BillsfaninFl Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 I am not a fan of Chan and his staff, but there is little he can do with the talent he has on the field. Also, Fitz is terrible because he lost his best blockers, runningback and receivers. Any coach or quarterback in this situation looks bad. I wonder if things would have been different for the careers of some of our "busts" if they had a quality organization operating this franchise, as committed to winning as some of the others. Do we honestly think that the elite GMs, coaches and players stay away from Buffalo because of the demographics? They couldn't care less if it is a small market with a struggling economy. If you were one of the best GMs, coaches or players out there, you would want to go to an organizaton that will pay for quality at all levels (not just your salary), because you want the team's performance (and yours) to have the best chance to succeed. Therefore, joining the Bills organization is a high risk career move for anyone. So we get mediocre talent at all levels, at bargain basement prices. An occasional acquisition gets a lucrative contract to suck in the more gullible fans. The spin is "we will build through the draft," which really means no top free agents would come here. We never have an abundance of talent because the franchise only commits to having a few. Ask yourself, "when was the last time a proven top staff member or player (at the peak of their career) joined the group at One Bills Drive?" The best ones we acquired (Polian, Levy, Kelly, etc.) were not considered elite or not even in the NFL before we got them, so we were lucky. Dropping down to the "good" category, there are some, but it's a short list. Certainly not a glowing report card over 51 years.
Thoner7 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 One might call "injuries" an excuse, but I'd call it a direct causal link. Check out how Aaron Rodgers did today with half his line injured and missing his best receiver... they won the SB last year with more injuries than we have. Our starters would be backups on the packers. that makes our backups 3rd stringeres. We have guy starting on our team who couldnt make the Packers practice squad.
Buffalo Beeeews Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Just trying to get some opinions out there from fellow Bills sufferers...ERRRR..fans. I know that coaches (especially here) are usually given a three year window to produce reasonable success. And, while we finished 4-12 last year and likely will finish 5-11 this year, its hardly the "improvement" we were looking for, especially given the 5-2 start we had this year. Anyway, the question is, if this team does in fact finish losing 9 consecutive games, is Chan Gailey out in Buffalo? I personally don't believe it will happen, but losing 9 straight after starting so well is inexcusable.
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 pro football review provided a report recently that proved we have had the most injuries in the NFL this season. It was recently. no linky. Sounds like bullcarp. The Rams have 10 CBs on IR. Edit: I had heard the number 10, but I only count 6 on the NFL.com website. Regardless, the Rams have more players on IR than the Bills and that's not to mention they have several seriously banged up guys still playing (like Sam Bradford), so the original claim seems to be pretty specious.
dpberr Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I used to be on the Chan Gailey bandwagon. After today, no more. I'm tired of abandoning the run when it works. I'm tired of seeing a man enamored with his game plan, with refusal to adjust it to conditions and personnel. I'm tired of this lousy coaching staff he put together. I'm tired of this season.
berndogg Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I am not a fan of Chan and his staff, but there is little he can do with the talent he has on the field. Also, Fitz is terrible because he lost his best blockers, runningback and receivers. Any coach or quarterback in this situation looks bad. I wonder if things would have been different for the careers of some of our "busts" if they had a quality organization operating this franchise, as committed to winning as some of the others. Do we honestly think that the elite GMs, coaches and players stay away from Buffalo because of the demographics? They couldn't care less if it is a small market with a struggling economy. If you were one of the best GMs, coaches or players out there, you would want to go to an organizaton that will pay for quality at all levels (not just your salary), because you want the team's performance (and yours) to have the best chance to succeed. Therefore, joining the Bills organization is a high risk career move for anyone. So we get mediocre talent at all levels, at bargain basement prices. An occasional acquisition gets a lucrative contract to suck in the more gullible fans. The spin is "we will build through the draft," which really means no top free agents would come here. We never have an abundance of talent because the franchise only commits to having a few. Ask yourself, "when was the last time a proven top staff member or player (at the peak of their career) joined the group at One Bills Drive?" The best ones we acquired (Polian, Levy, Kelly, etc.) were not considered elite or not even in the NFL before we got them, so we were lucky. Dropping down to the "good" category, there are some, but it's a short list. Certainly not a glowing report card over 51 years. Obviously the biggest problem is the talent of the players that are on the field both as a result of injuries and poor drafting/trades/free agent signings. But the Bills haven't just lost the last seven weeks, in six out of seven games, they've completely laid down once they were behind. The bills current talent level is really bad, but its not drastically worse than teams like cleveland, indy, KC, Washington, or for that matter, the Miami team that just whipped us again. All of those teams are out of the playoffs, yet they went out and put up a fight today and played with some pride. For whatever reason, the Bills have quit on Chan at this point. I'm not saying any players are making a conscious decision to not play hard on certain plays, but I know from playing on good and bad teams, that a team just plays with a certain energy when they believe in their coaches and in themselves. When they don't, they tend to play sluggish when things start to go downhill. I know these are grown men and professionals, but human beings are human beings and emotion is part of the game. I never thought I'd say this just a few weeks ago, but I think that the Bills performance during this losing streak is showing that Chan just doesn't have what it takes to get the most out of his guys. It's time for him to go.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I think it's unlikely (but possible) that Gailey gets fired if the team loses its last nine games. If they did run the table, the question had better be seriously considered. Part of it comes down to Buddy Nix's commitment to Gailey. That commitment is based on several factors. 1) How much their friendship factors in. 2) To what degree Nix would want to admit that his first Head Coaching hire was a mistake. 3) How protective Nix is about his own work (acquiring players) and the degree to which he would want to scapegoat to protect his own legacy. 4) His honest evaluation about the job Gailey has done. What complicates this is the factors beyond Nix's power. 1) How much upper management believes that the team needs an excuse/scapegoat for this season's disastrous end to placate the fan base. 2) The degree to which upper management will be able to stomach eating the remainder of Gailey's contract.
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