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Posted (edited)

This list is from the GBN draft page.

As of right now, I think there are only two pretty sure hits and a bunch of duds.

 

 

 

1 CAROLINA

Cam Newton

QB

Auburn

 

2 DENVER Von Miller LB

Texas A&M

 

3

BUFFALO

Marcel Dareus DT

Alabama

 

4

CINCINNATI A.J. Green WR

Georgia

 

5 ARIZONA Pat Peterson

CB

LSU

 

6

ATLANTA (from Cleveland)

Julio Jones WR

Alabama

 

7 SAN FRANCISCO Aldon Smith LB

Missouri

 

8

TENNESSEE Jake Locker QB

Washington

 

9

DALLAS Tyron Smith

OT

Southern California

10

JACKSONVILLE (from Washington) Blaine Gabbert QB

Missouri

 

11 HOUSTON JJ Watt DE

Wisconsin

12 MINNESOTA Christian Ponder QB

Florida State

 

13

DETROIT Nick Fairley DT

Auburn

 

14 ST. LOUIS Robert Quinn DE

North Carolina

 

15 MIAMI Mike Pouncey C

Florida

 

16

WASHINGTON(from Jacksonville) Ryan Kerrigan LB

Purdue

 

17 NEW ENGLAND (from Oakland) Nate Solder OT

Colorado

 

18 SAN DIEGO

Corey Liuget DT

Illinois

 

19

NEW YORK GIANTS Prince Amukamara CB

Nebraska

 

20 TAMPA BAY Adrian Clayborn DE

Iowa

 

21 CLEVELAND (from Kansas City) Phil Taylor DT

Baylor

 

22 INDIANAPOLIS Anthony Castonzo OT

Boston College

 

23

PHILADELPHIA

Danny Watkins OG

Baylor

 

24

NEW ORLEANS Cameron Jordan DE

California

 

25 SEATTLE James Carpenter

OT

Alabama

 

26

BALTIMORE Jimmy Smith CB

Colorado

 

27

KANSAS CITY from Atlanta thru Cleveland) Jon Baldwin

WR

Pittsburgh

 

28 NEW ORLEANS (from New England) Mark Ingram RB

Alabama

 

29

CHICAGO

Gabe Carimi OT

Wisconsin

 

30

NEW YORK JETS

Muhammad Wilkerson DE

Temple

 

31

PITTSBURGH Cameron Heyward DE

Ohio State

 

32

GREEN BAY Derek Sherrod

OT

Mississippi State

Second round

#

Team

Player

POS

School

 

33

New England (from Carolina) Ras-I Dowling

CB

Virginia

 

34

Buffalo Aaron Williams

CB

Texas

35

Cincinnati Andy Dalton

QB

Texas Christian

 

36

San Francisco (from Denver) Colin Kaepernick

QB

Nevada

 

37 Cleveland Jabaal Sheard

DE

Pittsburgh

 

38

Arizona Ryan Williams

RB

Virginia Tech

 

39

Tennessee Akeem Ayers

LB

UCLA

 

40 Dallas

Bruce Carter

LB

North Carolina

 

41 Washington Jarvis Jenkins

5T

Clemson

 

42

Houston Brooks Reed

LB

Arizona

 

43 Minnesota Kyle Rudolph

TE

Notre Dame

 

44

Detroit Titus Young

WR

Boise State

 

45 Denver (from San Francisco) Rahim Moore

FS

UCLA

 

46 Denver (from Miami) Orlando Franklin

OT

Miami

 

47

St. Louis

Lance Kendricks

TE

Wisconsin

 

48 Oakland Stefan Wisniewski

C

Penn State

 

49 Indianapolis (from Jacksonville thru Washington) Ben Ijalana

OT

Villanova

 

50

San Diego Marcus Gilchrest

DB

Clemson

 

51 Tampa Bay Da'Quan Bowers

DE

Clemson

 

52

New York Giants Marvin Austin

DT

North Carolina

 

53 Chicago (from Indianapolis thru Washington)

Stephen Paea

DT

Oregon State

 

54 Philadelphia Jaiqwuan Jarrett

FS

Temple

 

55

Kansas City Rodney Hudson

C/G

Florida State

 

56

New England (from New Orleans) Shane Vereen

RB

California

 

57

Detroit (from Seattle) Mikel Leshoure

RB

Illinois

 

58

Baltimore Torrey Smith

WR

Maryland

 

59

Cleveland (from Atlanta) Greg Little

WR

North Carolina

 

60 Houston (from New England) Brandon Harris

CB

Miami

 

61

San Diego (from NY Jets) Jonas Mouton

LB

Michigan

 

62

Miami (from Chicago thru Washington) Daniel Thomas

RB

Kansas State

 

63

Pittsburgh Marcus Gilbert

OT

Florida

 

64

Green Bay Randall Cobb

WR

Kentucky

Pretty typical results. I think we need 4-3 OLB and DE's more than a Fritz replacement for next year.

Edited by maryland-bills-fan
Posted

Thank you for posting this!! :thumbsup:

All the people screaming that Fitz is not the answer need to step back from the edge. Rank the 31 other starting QBs, the recently drafted QBs, and the soon to be drafted QBs, and then figure out where Fitz falls in your ranking. He ain't that bad! And there are no sure things. Who would have predicted that Dalton would be a winner? I think the prototype for QBs in the future must also include size and strength, along with intelligence and passing ability. A QB should look a lot like a tight end. The pure pocket passer is not going to get it done. Andrew Luck is a big guy, but several other QBs recently drafted or soon to be drafted are not as big as I think they should be.

Posted

Fitz is like 7th in the NFL in TDs and like 3rd in the AFC in completion percentage.

 

Fitz isnt the problem. Without him we are a 3 win team

Agreed.

 

Can anyone spell pass rush?

Posted

This is gonna go down as one of the great drafts in history… not talking QBs here… just overall.

 

But Ponder has shown excellent promise and Locker is being brought along slowly but has shown well in glimpses. That's on top of Newton and Dalton playing well. The only highly-drafted QB that hasn't looked good is Gabbert (big surprise/sarcasm) so actually this is looking good compared to most drafts, QB-wise.

Posted

Thank you for posting this!! :thumbsup:

All the people screaming that Fitz is not the answer need to step back from the edge. Rank the 31 other starting QBs, the recently drafted QBs, and the soon to be drafted QBs, and then figure out where Fitz falls in your ranking. He ain't that bad! And there are no sure things. Who would have predicted that Dalton would be a winner? I think the prototype for QBs in the future must also include size and strength, along with intelligence and passing ability. A QB should look a lot like a tight end. The pure pocket passer is not going to get it done. Andrew Luck is a big guy, but several other QBs recently drafted or soon to be drafted are not as big as I think they should be.

Look at the quarterbacks for the ten most recent Super Bowl winners.

 

2011: Aaron Rodgers

2010: Drew Brees

2009: Ben Roethlisberger

2008: Eli Manning

2007: Peyton Manning

2006: Ben Roethlisberger

2005: Tom Brady

2004: Tom Brady

2003: Brad Johnson

2002: Tom Brady

 

Of the ten entries above, nine (including Eli Manning) are from quarterbacks that are clearly, hands-down, better than Fitz. In 2009, 2010, and 2011, Eli Manning averaged 7.9, 7.4, and 8.4 yards per pass attempt, as compared to the 6.8 yards per pass attempt Fitz averaged in 2010, and the 6.9 yards per attempt he's averaging this season. (Numbers which represent by far the best averages of Fitzpatrick's career.)

 

One of the entries includes Brad Johnson, a very solid quarterback who had a Pro Bowl year the year the Bucs won the Super Bowl. Is it possible Fitz can put together a Pro Bowl year too, and that his Pro Bowl year will happen to coincide with the Bills having as good a defense as the Bucs did in 2002? Yes. But is this likely? Not very!

 

If the Bills merely want to win more regular season games than they lose, then Fitz is not the problem. Fix the defense, add some depth on offense, improve the OL, and voila! But if the Bills want to win the Super Bowl, they're going to need a quarterback who can go toe-to-toe with the guys on the above list. Fitz is not that guy, and never will be that guy.

 

It's way too early to judge the 2011 QB draft class, so I'm not going to go there. Peyton Manning didn't look all that good as a rookie, a fact which resulted in

. But I agree with the larger point that franchise quarterbacks are very rare, and that typically between zero and one are added to the NFL each year. If franchise QBs are both very rare and very valuable, then any time you get a chance to add one, you do it! Period.
Posted

As I've said before and as Nix has intimated, the Bills will take a QB when opportunity meets value.

 

They know what they have in Fitz.

 

Plus he's not overpaid and his contract has good club escapability in it.

 

It's weird how some people are assuming that they've put all their eggs in the Fitz basket.

 

They haven't. They've simply signed him to a contract that will stabilize the QB position for however long is necessary to find his upside replacement.

Posted

Look at the quarterbacks for the ten most recent Super Bowl winners.

 

2011: Aaron Rodgers

2010: Drew Brees

2009: Ben Roethlisberger

2008: Eli Manning

2007: Peyton Manning

2006: Ben Roethlisberger

2005: Tom Brady

2004: Tom Brady

2003: Brad Johnson

2002: Tom Brady

 

Of the ten entries above, nine (including Eli Manning) are from quarterbacks that are clearly, hands-down, better than Fitz. In 2009, 2010, and 2011, Eli Manning averaged 7.9, 7.4, and 8.4 yards per pass attempt, as compared to the 6.8 yards per pass attempt Fitz averaged in 2010, and the 6.9 yards per attempt he's averaging this season. (Numbers which represent by far the best averages of Fitzpatrick's career.)

 

One of the entries includes Brad Johnson, a very solid quarterback who had a Pro Bowl year the year the Bucs won the Super Bowl. Is it possible Fitz can put together a Pro Bowl year too, and that his Pro Bowl year will happen to coincide with the Bills having as good a defense as the Bucs did in 2002? Yes. But is this likely? Not very!

 

If the Bills merely want to win more regular season games than they lose, then Fitz is not the problem. Fix the defense, add some depth on offense, improve the OL, and voila! But if the Bills want to win the Super Bowl, they're going to need a quarterback who can go toe-to-toe with the guys on the above list. Fitz is not that guy, and never will be that guy.

 

It's way too early to judge the 2011 QB draft class, so I'm not going to go there. Peyton Manning didn't look all that good as a rookie, a fact which resulted in

. But I agree with the larger point that franchise quarterbacks are very rare, and that typically between zero and one are added to the NFL each year. If franchise QBs are both very rare and very valuable, then any time you get a chance to add one, you do it! Period.

I like the way you put that. I think most people would agree with you. I know I do!

Posted

As I've said before and as Nix has intimated, the Bills will take a QB when opportunity meets value.

 

 

 

They met at Andy Dalton, right after the Bills met Aaron Williams.

Posted

Fitz is like 7th in the NFL in TDs and like 3rd in the AFC in completion percentage.

 

Fitz isnt the problem. Without him we are a 3 win team

Yep.

In PFF Total Rating, he's 12th((Newton=6th), Completion Percentage (min. 600 throws) he's 5th (Newton=14th), and NFL Rating (min. 600 throws) he's 12th (Newton=25th).

Posted

They met at Andy Dalton, right after the Bills met Aaron Williams.

 

Fitz is better than Andy Dalton. Unless you think Dalton would be doing a ton better without cincy's very good defense.

Posted

They met at Andy Dalton, right after the Bills met Aaron Williams.

 

Fitz is 5th in completion percentage (min. 600 throws); Dalton is 18th.

Fitz is 12th in NFL rating (min. 600 throws); Dalton is 14th.

Fitz is 16th in yards gained per attempt (min. 600 throws); Dalton is tied at 16th.

Fitz is 7th in TD's; Dalton is 11th.

 

Dalton is 9th in passes dropped; Fitz is 25th.

Posted

Look at the quarterbacks for the ten most recent Super Bowl winners.

 

2011: Aaron Rodgers

2010: Drew Brees

2009: Ben Roethlisberger

2008: Eli Manning

2007: Peyton Manning

2006: Ben Roethlisberger

2005: Tom Brady

2004: Tom Brady

2003: Brad Johnson

2002: Tom Brady

 

Of the ten entries above, nine (including Eli Manning) are from quarterbacks that are clearly, hands-down, better than Fitz. In 2009, 2010, and 2011, Eli Manning averaged 7.9, 7.4, and 8.4 yards per pass attempt, as compared to the 6.8 yards per pass attempt Fitz averaged in 2010, and the 6.9 yards per attempt he's averaging this season. (Numbers which represent by far the best averages of Fitzpatrick's career.)

 

One of the entries includes Brad Johnson, a very solid quarterback who had a Pro Bowl year the year the Bucs won the Super Bowl. Is it possible Fitz can put together a Pro Bowl year too, and that his Pro Bowl year will happen to coincide with the Bills having as good a defense as the Bucs did in 2002? Yes. But is this likely? Not very!

 

If the Bills merely want to win more regular season games than they lose, then Fitz is not the problem. Fix the defense, add some depth on offense, improve the OL, and voila! But if the Bills want to win the Super Bowl, they're going to need a quarterback who can go toe-to-toe with the guys on the above list. Fitz is not that guy, and never will be that guy.

 

It's way too early to judge the 2011 QB draft class, so I'm not going to go there. Peyton Manning didn't look all that good as a rookie, a fact which resulted in

. But I agree with the larger point that franchise quarterbacks are very rare, and that typically between zero and one are added to the NFL each year. If franchise QBs are both very rare and very valuable, then any time you get a chance to add one, you do it! Period.

 

 

 

Isn't Fitz third in pro-bowl voting? At least that's what was said in another thread.

 

As usual (and we seem to do this every 2 weeks), the idea of determining a players worth after playing in the NFL for 11 games is silly (not meant to be directed at you Edward's/Holcomb's arm, but at the whole thread)

 

Players who were busts after their first year:

Vernon Davis

Aaron Rodgers

Darren McFadden

Drew Brees

 

The list could go on for quite a while because any player in their first year who did not play at the level they are playing at now would be considered a bust. Our brains are hardwired to find patterns in limited sets of data and again we are doing this here. You could argue that most of the guys who you say are busts now will be, but that's not the correct reasoning.

Posted

Fitz is 5th in completion percentage (min. 600 throws); Dalton is 18th.

Fitz is 12th in NFL rating (min. 600 throws); Dalton is 14th.

Fitz is 16th in yards gained per attempt (min. 600 throws); Dalton is tied at 16th.

Fitz is 7th in TD's; Dalton is 11th.

 

Dalton is 9th in passes dropped; Fitz is 25th.

 

Stop it, those facts might suggest that winning a football game involves a team effort instead of a quarterback. Dalton MUST be better, he has a better record :rolleyes:

Posted

Fitz is better than Andy Dalton. Unless you think Dalton would be doing a ton better without cincy's very good defense.

Or AJ Green.

 

And shouldn't it be 2011 QB's?

Posted

Fitz is 5th in completion percentage (min. 600 throws); Dalton is 18th.

Fitz is 12th in NFL rating (min. 600 throws); Dalton is 14th.

Fitz is 16th in yards gained per attempt (min. 600 throws); Dalton is tied at 16th.

Fitz is 7th in TD's; Dalton is 11th.

 

Dalton is 9th in passes dropped; Fitz is 25th.

 

 

Does Dalton really have 600 attempts already in his career? Do they run at all?

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