st. pete gogolak Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Last winning season - 2004 Last playoff appearance - 1999 Last home playoff appearance - 1996 Last playoff win - 1995 Last AFC East Title - 1995 (Good Lord!) Last Super Bowl appearance - 1993 Last Super Bowl victory - never Last League Championship - 1965 (AFL) 377-427-8 record 19 winning seasons out of 51 (52 after this season) Owner gives 5 home games away to another city for $$$ And yet, the fans are ridiculously loyal to this team and for the most part, fill the building year after year after year. I can't think of another fan base enduring what Bills' fans have endured and remaining this rabid and this loyal to the team with the possible exception of the Cubs (and Cubs' fans seem to have bought into a "lovable loser" persona for their team - don't think Bills' fans have ever done that with this team). Ownership and senior management, infinitely more committed to squeezing money out of the franchis than bringing it a championship, need to pay some tribute to their fanbase. They deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Last winning season - 2004 Last playoff appearance - 1999 Last home playoff appearance - 1996 Last playoff win - 1995 Last AFC East Title - 1995 (Good Lord!) Last Super Bowl appearance - 1993 Last Super Bowl victory - never Last League Championship - 1965 (AFL) 377-427-8 record 19 winning seasons out of 51 (52 after this season) Owner gives 5 home games away to another city for $$$ And yet, the fans are ridiculously loyal to this team and for the most part, fill the building year after year after year. I can't think of another fan base enduring what Bills' fans have endured and remaining this rabid and this loyal to the team with the possible exception of the Cubs (and Cubs' fans seem to have bought into a "lovable loser" persona for their team - don't think Bills' fans have ever done that with this team). Ownership and senior management, infinitely more committed to squeezing money out of the franchis than bringing it a championship, need to pay some tribute to their fanbase. They deserve it. i could not agree with you more! the loyalty of the bills fans has been abused by littman , brandon, overdorf and co for years. it really does suck, but nationally i think lots "get it" , as witnessed by PFT 's rosenthauls comments last week when he made his pick, "bills fans deserve more". the perception of the franchise's "money grubbing" is now a reality . it is no reflection on the fans and obviously until ownership changes, it will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 It's hard to win in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineMoxie Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 NFL Attendance Statistics I thought this was interesting. We're averaging more than the Pats* this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I'm with ya. Here's an honest suggestion for the Bills front office: If we have another losing season, give out game tickets or Bills gear to the 1,000 most active posters on TBD. Any team, in fact, that doesn't make the playoffs in a decade and then caps the 11th year with a losing season should be rewarding their most loyal fans, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 That's why the Bills need to stay put i don't care if the are in the play offs or not each year they are a great team to root for !! The are the all american team from there colors to the players being just the old fashion blue collar team players !!!! I'd rather be a loyal Bills fan than an egotistical cowboys fan ANY DAY !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I'm with ya. Here's an honest suggestion for the Bills front office: If we have another losing season, give out game tickets or Bills gear to the 1,000 most active posters on TBD. Any team, in fact, that doesn't make the playoffs in a decade and then caps the 11th year with a losing season should be rewarding their most loyal fans, IMO. For obvious reasons I like your idea but wouldn't "their most loyal fans" be their longest tenured (multiple) season ticket holders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I hope no one takes this the wrong way but it needs to be mentioned. Patriots have the 2nd highest average ticket price at $226. The Bills average ticket price is 30th at $79. http://seatgeek.com/blog/nfl/average-nfl-ticket-prices-after-week-1-2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 For obvious reasons I like your idea but wouldn't "their most loyal fans" be their longest tenured (multiple) season ticket holders? Then give em gear. And the rest of us out of staters tickets. The details are up to them. Just throwing an idea out there that I believe I'd do if I were an owner of a team that's been as bad this long with such good fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 How can you argue with that ?????????????????? BUT ---- GO BILLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I hope no one takes this the wrong way but it needs to be mentioned. Patriots have the 2nd highest average ticket price at $226. The Bills average ticket price is 30th at $79. http://seatgeek.com/blog/nfl/average-nfl-ticket-prices-after-week-1-2011 That's how it should be. Not only can most western new yorkers not afford 226$ tickets, but the product on the field should have something to do with it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I hope no one takes this the wrong way but it needs to be mentioned. Patriots have the 2nd highest average ticket price at $226. The Bills average ticket price is 30th at $79. http://seatgeek.com/blog/nfl/average-nfl-ticket-prices-after-week-1-2011 Team record and cost of living need to be factored into this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineMoxie Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Makes you wonder how teams like Cincinnati stay in business. Oh, wait, it's all about merchandise and branding these days. I forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 That's why the Bills need to stay put i don't care if the are in the play offs or not each year they are a great team to root for !! The are the all american team from there colors to the players being just the old fashion blue collar team players !!!! I'd rather be a loyal Bills fan than an egotistical cowboys fan or jets fan ANY DAY !!! Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLeonard Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The column you want to sort by using that chart is the first PCT. column... That will tell you what percentage of the seats are sold. While the Bills are ahead of NE on average attendance, NE's attendance is 100%, while the Bills' is 94.5 Bills sell more seats because of ticket price and the fact that RWS capacity is bigger than Gillette Stadium. -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserable_fan Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 A gradual decline is imminent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTW2012 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The column you want to sort by using that chart is the first PCT. column... That will tell you what percentage of the seats are sold. While the Bills are ahead of NE on average attendance, NE's attendance is 100%, while the Bills' is 94.5 Bills sell more seats because of ticket price and the fact that RWS capacity is bigger than Gillette Stadium. -Bill Actually that's in-house attendance, not percentage sold. All four Bills home games so far have been sellouts. That will obviously change after this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Last winning season - 2004 Last playoff appearance - 1999 Last home playoff appearance - 1996 Last playoff win - 1995 Last AFC East Title - 1995 (Good Lord!) Last Super Bowl appearance - 1993 Last Super Bowl victory - never Last League Championship - 1965 (AFL) 377-427-8 record 19 winning seasons out of 51 (52 after this season) Owner gives 5 home games away to another city for $$$ And yet, the fans are ridiculously loyal to this team and for the most part, fill the building year after year after year. I can't think of another fan base enduring what Bills' fans have endured and remaining this rabid and this loyal to the team with the possible exception of the Cubs (and Cubs' fans seem to have bought into a "lovable loser" persona for their team - don't think Bills' fans have ever done that with this team). Ownership and senior management, infinitely more committed to squeezing money out of the franchis than bringing it a championship, need to pay some tribute to their fanbase. They deserve it. WTF! This nonsense again? This team was 5-2 at one point and still couldn't sell out its games. Drop the "greatest fans" BS. We're not. Great fans don't stop going to playoff games because they lost two Super Bowls. We are essentially front runners now...and even then! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 The column you want to sort by using that chart is the first PCT. column... That will tell you what percentage of the seats are sold. While the Bills are ahead of NE on average attendance, NE's attendance is 100%, while the Bills' is 94.5 Bills sell more seats because of ticket price and the fact that RWS capacity is bigger than Gillette Stadium. -Bill Correct. Not to mention that the Bills are 9th from the bottom in PCT, and that will no doubt start to decline heavily over the last three home games. They will finish near the bottom of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Sorry, but it's all about the TV market, thats were the money is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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