jcbillsfan Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 This I call it idiotodic As someone stated earlier... In this decade it doesn't take FOUR years to turn around a team. When an owner and GM hire the right people there's no reason to think an uncompetitive team can't turn things around in a season or two. This is what a GOOD GM does. If they don't succeed in a few years, you get rid of them and find someone who can. Theres a lot of saavy, experienced people in the NFL and we dont bring them in. We have been a failure for years now and it's sad. I get your point about giving Buddy Nix a chance, but has anything he done really made you think "Wow, he really knows what he's doing?" I haven't gotten this feeling about him. Sure much of this is based on Wilson's track record of putting incompetent people in charge. But what makes you think history won't repeat itself? What makes you think Nix will succeed where then previous GM's have failed? Because he is better. Levy/Jouron are not gm's. Donohue had a good rep but was a crazy risk taker. You might ask yourself how have others triumphed whioe those two failed .
Bob in STL Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) Many Bills fans consider this franchise to be in "year two" of the rebuilding process. However they forget that this franchise has been "rebuilding" since 2001. Allow me to explain: 2001-2005 Tom Donahoe Era. Donahoe inherited a team on salary cap hell and did a decent job of finding talent. The problem was he had a huge ego and hired young, subservient coaches as opposed to strong leaders. He really bombed big in Buffalo, but give Ralph credit for giving the money and power to someone from the outside with a proven track record and experience. Sadly this would be the ONLY time Ralph would venture outside his comfort zone. 2006-2008 The Marv Levy Era - Wilson coaxed former coach Levy into the GM role. Marv had little interest in the job and his tenure was a disaster, marred by his poor selection of Dick Jauron as head coach and several poor draft picks. He was seen as more of a "figure head" thana true GM, as the remaining members of Donahoe's failed staff stayed to do day-to-day operations. 2008-2009 The Faux GM When Marv stepped down Wilson replaced him with......NO ONE. Russ Brandon was named president but once again, Donahoe's flunkies were running the show with input from Jauron. Once again these teams were very bad. The Buddy Nix Era - Jury is still out, though the results are not encouraging. In two years, Buddy took a team that was 6-10 and went 4-12. This year we may be lucky to get to 6-10. So in two years we might actually be no better off. Buddy's draft record is suspect at best, with the big miss on underperforming CJ Spiller. The talent he has found on this team are overachievers who work hard, but are not elite NFl players. So that's 11 years of rebuilding.... 4 different eras.... 0 playoff wins.... And countless frustrations for the good people of WNY. Whether you blame Donahoe, Jauron, Modrak, or Bledsoe there has been ONE constant here.... Old Man Wilson. UNTIL THIS TEAM IS UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP THEY WILL FOREVER BE A LOSING FRANCHISE -- mark my words. We can't win with Wilson's loser mentality! Pretty good summary of the last 10 years actually. I differ on a few comments. I do not think that Donahoe did a good job of finding talent. I think he drafted for the big splash and gambled on McGahee and Losman. As you stated his coach selection was poor. He was overrated and set the franchise way back. I think Marv's short era found some real gems (Stevie, Kyle and Freddy for example) but whiffed on Whitner, McCargo, and Poz. The killer is the limbo era with no GM, Jauron and Brandon. Who runs a football team like that? This was another set back period because it made it impossible for a proven big name coach to even consider coming to Buffalo. Buddy Nix? - was shall eee. So far I am way more impressed with Chan than with Buddy. The blaming of Ralph is is a constant here. No Ralph, no team guys. Lets face that sad fact. Edited December 3, 2011 by Bob in STL
Mr_Blizzard Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 This season was disappointing. There, I said it. Are you happy now?
Nanker Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Threads like this are like public expressions of penis envy. Some people have issues dealing with their shortcomings. Edited December 4, 2011 by Nanker
Gareson Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Realistic Fan" Hell yes this year was a dissapointment". Bill-iever: "We're not out of it yet", "But Player X really showed me something this year", "Next year we're going all the way", "We're just a player or two short of being a contendor" (blah blah blah)
MacAddict104 Posted December 4, 2011 Author Posted December 4, 2011 Ok good. It seems like most people are in agreement with me. This franchise has MAJOR issues and it's very unlikely they'll ever make the playoffs under current ownership. . BUT rather than dwelling in the depressing truth, it's important to BILL-EIVE that we'll somehow catch a break. I get it now. People aren't saying that my comments about the franchise being flawed are untrue, they just would rather turn a blind eye to the dark side and accentuate the few positives. If anyone's from Buffalo, I am very much like columnist Jerry Sullivan. I love this team but hate to see them fumble around for years now
Swift Sylvan Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Disappointing...what were our expectations? Disappointing that our best players got injured...yes Disappointing that we showed real promise at the start of the year and don't still...yes Disappointing that we have a team talented enough to beat the patriots when we're relatively healthy? no If you don't mind, I'm going to wait until the end of the season before I actually proclaim how I felt about the whole season.
Dick Jauron Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Realistic Fan" Hell yes this year was a dissapointment". Bill-iever: "We're not out of it yet", "But Player X really showed me something this year", "Next year we're going all the way", "We're just a player or two short of being a contendor" (blah blah blah) It's hard to win in the NFL
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