1B4IDie Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) 1. ERIC Wood 2. FRED JACKSON 3. LEVITRE 4. RYAN FITZPATRICK 5. KYLE WILLIAMS 6. MARCELL DAREUS 7. GEORGE WILSON 8. BELL 9. MERRIMAN 10. LINDELL Edited November 24, 2011 by Why So Serious?
Mr_Blizzard Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 1. ERIC Wood 2. FRED JACKSON 3. LEVITRE 4. RYAN FITZPATRICK 5. KYLE WILLIAMS 6. MARCELL DARRUS 7. GEORGE WILSON 8. BELL 9. MERRIMAN 10. LINDELL
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 1. ERIC Wood 2. FRED JACKSON 3. LEVITRE 4. RYAN FITZPATRICK 5. KYLE WILLIAMS 6. MARCELL DARRUS 7. GEORGE WILSON 8. BELL 9. MERRIMAN 10. LINDELL Just wondering, but you know Tyler Thigpen is the "backup" QB, right?
WhyFitz? Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 <br />Just wondering, but you know Tyler Thigpen is the "backup" QB, right?<br /><br /><br /><br /> The Bills could sign someone off the street who would equal or possibly better Thigpens performance. He is not a top 10 player on the Bills.
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 The Bills could sign someone off the street who would equal or possibly better Thigpens performance. He is not a top 10 player on the Bills. Exactly the point. No depth at all at the most important position, and yet he ranked it #4.
1B4IDie Posted November 24, 2011 Author Posted November 24, 2011 Exactly the point. No depth at all at the most important position, and yet he ranked it #4. No depth at all in an already weakish O-line caused me to shoot the lynchpin to the top of the chart. This is out of the 54 man roster. I can see the argument to flip Freddy with Fitzy. Everyone feel free to make your own top 10 list and I,d be surprised if you don't have half of the list on IR.
NoSaint Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) Almost the same list, different order..... And 2 more are nicked up on yours(bell and wilson) Fitz Fred Merriman Wood Williams Levitre Bell Dareus Stevie Barnett Edited November 24, 2011 by NoSaint
BADOLBILZ Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 1. ERIC Wood 2. FRED JACKSON 3. LEVITRE 4. RYAN FITZPATRICK 5. KYLE WILLIAMS 6. MARCELL DAREUS 7. GEORGE WILSON 8. BELL 9. MERRIMAN 10. LINDELL Yes, we get it, the Bills have lost a bunch of players, but that is a product of a poor overall roster not some random misforttune. When you are playing from far behind your offensive players are liable to get beaten up. When teams get a big lead on you, they can run the ball down your throat which is hard on the health of your defense. It doesn't pay to build your team on a 5 year plan any longer. The Bills have no sense of urgency organizationally. If this team had gone out and actually added some good veterans to the defense then perhaps guys like Jackson, Wood and Stevie Johnson wouldn't have suffered the injuries they have. The whole season has been a frantic attempt by the offense to keep the team in games and that has taken it's toll.
RealityCheck Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 Yes, we get it, the Bills have lost a bunch of players, but that is a product of a poor overall roster not some random misforttune. When you are playing from far behind your offensive players are liable to get beaten up. When teams get a big lead on you, they can run the ball down your throat which is hard on the health of your defense. It doesn't pay to build your team on a 5 year plan any longer. The Bills have no sense of urgency organizationally. If this team had gone out and actually added some good veterans to the defense then perhaps guys like Jackson, Wood and Stevie Johnson wouldn't have suffered the injuries they have. The whole season has been a frantic attempt by the offense to keep the team in games and that has taken it's toll. Why not?
1B4IDie Posted November 24, 2011 Author Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) Yes, we get it, the Bills have lost a bunch of players, but that is a product of a poor overall roster not some random misforttune. When you are playing from far behind your offensive players are liable to get beaten up. When teams get a big lead on you, they can run the ball down your throat which is hard on the health of your defense. It doesn't pay to build your team on a 5 year plan any longer. The Bills have no sense of urgency organizationally. If this team had gone out and actually added some good veterans to the defense then perhaps guys like Jackson, Wood and Stevie Johnson wouldn't have suffered the injuries they have. The whole season has been a frantic attempt by the offense to keep the team in games and that has taken it's toll. Good point about the defense being so poor that it put the offense in a position that caused an increase chance of injury. The point isn't that we've had a lot of injuries, the point is the injuries were to very key players. If Reihnhert, Spiller, Harriston, Troop, and Scott were the ones on IR wouldn't be in the same FUBAR position. btw I think its more like a 3 year plan and what is your alternative strategy? Edited November 24, 2011 by Why So Serious?
truth on hold Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) 1. ERIC Wood 2. FRED JACKSON 3. LEVITRE 4. RYAN FITZPATRICK 5. KYLE WILLIAMS 6. MARCELL DAREUS 7. GEORGE WILSON 8. BELL 9. MERRIMAN 10. LINDELL given our lack of speed at the wideout position, I'd probably put Parrish ahead of Lindell Edited November 24, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack
papazoid Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 in order of "impact" #1- fitz #2- freddy #3- kyle williams #4- wood #5- bell #6- dareus #7- lindell #8- levitre #9- stevie #10- chandler
fansince88 Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 in order of "impact" #1- fitz #2- freddy #3- kyle williams #4- wood #5- bell #6- dareus #7- lindell #8- levitre #9- stevie #10- chandler Would have to move wood to top of list. Look at the impact that his injury had on Sundays game.
JTO Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> The Bills could sign someone off the street who would equal or possibly better Thigpens performance. He is not a top 10 player on the Bills. Not sure why they are paying him so much money. I hope it's not guaranteed. Way too much money for a backup.
34-78-83 Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 This is an interesting thread... and so Sad but true. At some point the talent loss to IR outweighs anything one could "coach up" to get victories in the NFL.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 Would have to move wood to top of list. Look at the impact that his injury had on Sundays game. Levitre was just awful. But just because he snapped the ball worse than any practice squad center in the league would have does not make Wood the most indispensible player on the roster. Urbik should perform better.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 This is an interesting thread... and so Sad but true. At some point the talent loss to IR outweighs anything one could "coach up" to get victories in the NFL. The Bills were pretty arrogant about their stock of personnel in the offseason so there is no justification for a pity party. They did a good job of finding adequate talent off the scrap heap last season in guys like Chandler, Urbik, Rhinehart, Pears etc. and I think they got kinda' full of themselves. The reality is that when you are bad and have a lot of roster opportunities you are in a better position to find good players at the fringes of better teams' rosters. But the core of the team has paid the price for the lack of an aggressive approach to stocking the rest of the roster.
jcbillsfan Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 might as well add bell and easley to the list The Bills were pretty arrogant about their stock of personnel in the offseason so there is no justification for a pity party. They did a good job of finding adequate talent off the scrap heap last season in guys like Chandler, Urbik, Rhinehart, Pears etc. and I think they got kinda' full of themselves. The reality is that when you are bad and have a lot of roster opportunities you are in a better position to find good players at the fringes of better teams' rosters. But the core of the team has paid the price for the lack of an aggressive approach to stocking the rest of the roster. Buddy said for the get go the depth would be a problem, you can not gut a team and have it totally restocked in two years. It is very hard to get veteran depth players to come and play for a team that is precieved to have to shot at winning . If anything it should be a little easier to recruit that type of player this offseason. <br /><br /><br /> The Bills could sign someone off the street who would equal or possibly better Thigpens performance. He is not a top 10 player on the Bills. would like them to bring in josh johnson this offseason. Tb will not sign him and he is athletic with upside.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 1. ERIC Wood 2. FRED JACKSON 3. LEVITRE 4. RYAN FITZPATRICK 5. KYLE WILLIAMS 6. MARCELL DAREUS 7. GEORGE WILSON 8. BELL 9. MERRIMAN 10. LINDELL I was thinking of posting something similar. Consider this-- we've lost our best offensive skill player, best offensive lineman, best d-lineman, best LB, and best CB for the year. This doesn't even account for the fact that we've lost other significant players for significant periods of time (Wilson, Lindell, Jones, Easley, Parrish, etc.).
BillsVet Posted November 24, 2011 Posted November 24, 2011 The Bills were pretty arrogant about their stock of personnel in the offseason so there is no justification for a pity party. They did a good job of finding adequate talent off the scrap heap last season in guys like Chandler, Urbik, Rhinehart, Pears etc. and I think they got kinda' full of themselves. The reality is that when you are bad and have a lot of roster opportunities you are in a better position to find good players at the fringes of better teams' rosters. But the core of the team has paid the price for the lack of an aggressive approach to stocking the rest of the roster. Buddy was pretty arrogant about the roster, then backtracked about week 3 with their depth. It's not all Nix' fault, he's just playing with half a deck courtesy of ownership. Now it seems Nix and Gailey are subtly noting the lack of depth and talent all over the field. As much as I feel sorry for them working without, they knew what they were getting in to when they accepted their jobs. That would be OK if Nix was better on draft day, but he refuses to make trades to add picks (hello depth) and his core rebuilding philosophy isn't one that can make up for blanks in free agency.
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