Oxrock Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Here we go again ahead of the next IPCC meeting! More on the non-scientific scientist that have been waging a PR war for your mind and money: News Story Here Fresh round of hacked climate science emails leaked online A file containing 5,000 emails has been made available in an apparent attempt to repeat the impact of 2009's similar release A fresh tranche of private emails exchanged between leading climate scientists throughout the last decade was released online on Tuesday. The unauthorised publication is an apparent attempt to repeat the impact of a similar release of emails on the eve of the Copenhagen climate summit in late 2009. The initial email dump was apparently timed to disrupt the Copenhagen climate talks. It prompted three official inquiries in the UK and two in the US into the working practices of climate scientists. Although these were critical of the scientists' handling of Freedom of Information Act requests and lack of openness they did not find fault with the climate change science they had produced. Norfolk police have said the new set of emails is "of interest" to their investigation to find the perpetrator of the initial email release who has not yet been identified. The emails appear to be genuine, but the University of East Anglia said the "sheer volume of material" meant it was not yet able to confirm that they were. One of the emailers, the climate scientist Prof Michael Mann, has confirmed that he believes they are his messages. The lack of any emails post-dating the 2009 release suggests that they were obtained at the same time, but held back. Their release now suggests they are intended to cause maximum impact before the upcoming climate summit in Durban which starts on Monday.... (MORE AT LINK) And a whole lot of fun here: Watts Up With That? UPDATE8: 140PM PST Mike Mann shows his true colors: email 1680.txt date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:03:05 -0400 from: "Michael E. Mann".. subject: Re: Something not to pass on to: Phil Jones Phil, I would not respond to this. They will misrepresent and take out of context anything you give them. This is a set up. They will certainly publish this, and will ignore any evidence to the contrary that you provide. s They are going after Wei-Chyung because he's U.S. and there is a higher threshold for establishing libel. Nonetheless, he should consider filing a defamation lawsuit, perhaps you too. I have been talking w/ folks in the states about finding an investigative journalist to investigate and expose McIntyre, and his thusfar unexplored connections with fossil fuel interests.Perhaps the same needs to be done w/ this Keenan guy. I believe that the only way to stop these people is by exposing them and discrediting them…. Ahhh, Penn State, what to do with Mr. Mann...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 So how are things going for those 50 million 'climate change' refugees? http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2005/oct/12/naturaldisasters.climatechange1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 So how are things going for those 50 million 'climate change' refugees? http://www.guardian.....climatechange1 I heard they just got kicked out of Zuccotti Park last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Cap and Trade is a socialist/Kenyan plot to destroy us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Cap and Trade is a socialist/Kenyan plot to destroy us all! I knew it was the Kenyans! Everyone keeps pointing the finger at the US, India and China for the spike in carbon emissions but I knew all along it was Kenya. The Big Giraffe Industry is killing this planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Cap and Trade is a socialist/Kenyan plot to destroy us all! No, it's just another money grab that appeals to simpletons like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Cap and Trade is a socialist/Kenyan plot to destroy us all! Not addressing the ACTUAL points of a thread seems to be pretty standard practice for this guy, sad, that he doesn't seem to realize that everyone can see through his weak attemps at deflection. . Edited November 23, 2011 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Not addressing the ACTUAL points of a thread seems to be pretty standard practice for this guy, sad, that he doesn't seem to realize that everyone can see through his weak attemps at deflection. . It's actually pretty standard practice for the whole board. We're just a lot more contemptuous of Dave, because he does it so damn poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 It's actually pretty standard practice for the whole board. We're just a lot more contemptuous of Daves, because they do it so damn poorly. Minor correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveinElma Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 No, it's just another money grab that appeals to simpletons like you. Punish the makers and reward the takers-it's the liberal mantra. Global warming is just an outgrowth of that philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxrock Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 We've got more! The news: The Daily Mail Online Climategate scientists DID collude with government officials to hide research that didn't fit their apocalyptic global warming 5,000 leaked emails reveal scientists deleted evidence that cast doubt on claims climate change was man-made Experts were under orders from US and UK officials to come up with a 'strong message' Critics claim: 'The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering' Scientist asks, 'What if they find that climate change is a natural fluctuation? They'll kill us all' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2066240/Second-leak-climate-emails-Political-giants-weigh-bias-scientists-bowing-financial-pressure-sponsors.html#ixzz1emKQFFv0 That last one... just don't know what to say. The blog: Watts Up With That? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Hold on, hold on, hold ON! It might - just might now, be safe again to exhale. The final analysis and recommendations aren't in yet, of course. But it's looking promising again to resume breathing on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Question: What do you get when you mix Science and Politics ? Answer: just Politics. Instead of investigating, there was a concerted effort to "reach" a wanted conclusion.................and rather than release their research, critics are demonized as "denialists" or big business apologists. Let me know when Climate isn't changing..........then I'll be worried. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The fact that the AGW people would co-opt the word "denier", as if denying their questionable science, and unquestioned political beliefs, is the same as denying the Holocaust, tells us all we need to know about these people. It's shameful. It's the same tactic used by the Communists, Nazis, and Japanese Militarists: dehumanize the opposition, then, whatever you do to them is justified...call someone a racist, that way nobody will listen to what he says....and on and on. We all KNOW that this science has been hopelessly skewed by politics to the point that it is worthless. Whether some of us want to admit that we know this is something else. We basically need to start all over again, with people who have no ties to politics, colleges, or energy corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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