truth on hold Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Rash of injuries Lack of depth Losing vets to avoid paying them / way under cap Wasteful conversion to 3-4D which sapped our draft and free agent capacity Premature extension of Fitz No identity on defense Reasons behind this: Chan being a system guy on offense and defense Ralpl trying to build a winner on the cheap Nix way over rated as an assesor of talent and trying to prove his chargers heritage is superior Injury riddle methinks comes from working players too hard during the week -- I don't know there's something wrong here, too much of a pattern to deny Edited November 20, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack
ny33 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Maybe because entering the season Dareus in the only guy starting from 2 drafts? Or because its true. Well we can count Sheppard after a few games. So thats 2 starters in 2 drafts. Buddy should have this turned around in 11 years or so then. His post wasn't clear as to whether that sentence referred to all players on the team or those drafted under Nix; based on what was written, I thought he was referring to the whole team as having just one legitimate starter: Dareus.
Da Big Man Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 AH ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Stick a fork in 'em! we're done! 5-11 here we come. No body circles the drain like the Buffalo Bills. New owner, new coaches, new qb. Thats the only solution.
CBD Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Buddy Nix - lack of player depth, extending Fitz midseason, drafting and signing gimmicky free agents instead of positional needs like -ol, linebacker etc. Overall mediocre to poor drafts. Really the only player that is starter material is Dareus. We are in a lot of trouble folks. The sad thing is, as bad as our defense has been our offense is just as bad and our head coach does not seem to be able to utilize many of players that we consider to have "potential". If Nix is responsible for the collapse, then who is responsible for their start? I think their overall major problem is a lack of depth which you touched on. Which could be blamed on only having 2 off seasons with which to build the roster.
BuffaloWings Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 The Bills should hire an offensive coordinator next year A defensive coordinator would be a better idea.
BillnutinHouston Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 3. Need a conditioning coach. Do we lead the league in players on IR? Um, we have TWO conditioning coaches.
CBD Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Um, we have TWO conditioning coaches. Should add another one, and bring the TVs back.
OldTimer1960 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 If Nix is responsible for the collapse, then who is responsible for their start? I think their overall major problem is a lack of depth which you touched on. Which could be blamed on only having 2 off seasons with which to build the roster. I concur with this. Teams starting at ground zero can scarcely expect to have a good starting lineup and good depth in 1 year. I would like to see a bit more aggressiveness in FA, but that is not the major problem here. The fact is that the cupboard was COMPLETELY bare when Nix and Gailey arrived. Chan worked miracles getting this team off to a fast start. However, it is not his, nor Nix's fault that they lost their starting C and their top 2 LTs (who were questionable themselves). There is no way to really blame them or the OL coach for not being able to patch together an OL after all the injuries they have dealt with. Today, Fitzpatrick and the O had no chance when getting the shotgun snap was a major adventure on every play. Now, the D is truly AWFUL and has better talent than that. They could/should be a middle of the league defense, IMHO. I know that they lack pass rushers, but this is ridiculous. They get NO pressure on the opponent's QB. When Tony Romo and Matt Moore look like world-beaters in two consecutive weeks, it is all on the pass rush.
Bufcomments Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Well injuries are huge. Bell, Williams, Merriman, Wood, Parrish, Wilson. Trading Lee Evans and putting Jones in his place was just plain dumb. Fitz has not been the same since signing his new contract. Makes you say hmmmm. Total lack of Defense. I hate to say this but Ralph just a figurehead owner. He wont change. We need some mojo. I didnt like when Chan said we are playing like pretenders,dont think that helped one bit. Buddy has a long way to go. Pass rushers. We need a DE AND LB's that can get to the QB. WR... Easley cant stay healthy ,same thing with Parrish. CB... McGee cant stay healthy, undersized, time to move on. New DC... Edwards sucks, we have more talent for 4-3 and its time we dump this hybred 3-4 ish. I think we need a new owner. don't think there is anything more to say.
Bob in STL Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Buddy Nix - lack of player depth, extending Fitz midseason, drafting and signing gimmicky free agents instead of positional needs like -ol, linebacker etc. Overall mediocre to poor drafts. Really the only player that is starter material is Dareus. We are in a lot of trouble folks. The sad thing is, as bad as our defense has been our offense is just as bad and our head coach does not seem to be able to utilize many of players that we consider to have "potential". Right now it looks like they quit. Every single quitter is responsible. The blocked punt was an example of a player just not playing. Miami did nothing special, we just quit.
JayFromDC Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 When Matt Moore carves your defense up, your d coordinator should be seriously in jeopardy
OldTimer1960 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 When Matt Moore carves your defense up, your d coordinator should be seriously in jeopardy Yes. At this point, Chan had to be saying thank you that Losman wasn't allowed to carve them up too.
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Rash of injuries Lack of depth Losing vets to avoid paying them / way under cap Wasteful conversion to 3-4D which sapped our draft and free agent capacity Premature extension of Fitz No identity on defense Reasons behind this: Chan being a system guy on offense and defense Ralpl trying to build a winner on the cheap Nix way over rated as an assesor of talent and trying to prove his chargers heritage is superior Injury riddle methinks comes from working players too hard during the week -- I don't know there's something wrong here, too much of a pattern to deny Some injuries, like penalties, are related to not having good enough players, players that aren't fundamentally sound, aren't executing, don't have a clue what they are doing, or are trying to do too much. For example, if a play is well blocked, the runner will run past his lineman, deliver a blow to a defensive player, and drive him backwards. On a bad team that can't execute, a defender may come crashing down the line of scrimmage, smear the running back, and drive him awkwardly into the back of a lineman's legs, blowing the lineman's knees out. Another example, would be an upback in punt formation that forgets that his primary job is to block the punt rush, and instead sprints away from the rusher giving the punt rusher a free release and a direct beeline to annihilate the punter and/or block the kick. If blocked properly, the punter doesn't have to worry about having his plant leg ripped out from under him like a dry stick.
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 You're kidding, was Gronk on the board for the Troup pick? Jesus. It's OK. Chan doesn't use the TE position in his offense.
Mango Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Spiller---below not even mediocre and at 7 million a season Troup---big nothing burger, this pick with local boy Gronk rated no. 1 TE on the board. Carrington--mediocre, backup Easley--zip Batten--lucky to be on a roster Ed Wang--cut Moats---mediocre Calloway--cut. Levi Brown--nothing burger spiller- playing behind a probowler. so your point is that we should stop giving the ball to our super productive back and start giving it to the back up. silly. until he is in a position to be a feature back the jury is still out. that is the reality of the situation troup/carrington- have been the only depth we have had at any position no matter how poor it has been easley- serious health problems, no idea what his ceiling or basement is to be fair wang- 5th rounder and we have some ok tackles suprisingly, they all just happen to be hurt moats- actually a decent pick in the 6th round. you expect picks this low to be expendable and he has played pretty well calloway/brown- really we are going to wine about another super low round pick. wahhhh my 7th round pick isnt super great. lets get real. looking at good drafting teams, they hit on the draft at about 50% of their picks. the last 2 seem to have provided some depth wich is good. there was an artice a week or 2 ago and we have something like 11 guys left on the team from the 2005-2009 with 1 from 07 and none from 08. there is no team in the league with a poorer roster than that. take the gun out of your mouth, there is some improvement, but intill there is a roster we cant make realistic judgments. or if you would like you can blow your head off because of 2 failed 7th rounders, a bad 5th rounder, and the guy we have backing up our pro bowler.
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