RkFast Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Im sure its just conicidence that the minute that Perry, Cain and Gingrich sniffed the top spot in polling, these stories came to light. PLACE YOU BETS NOW..... How long after Romney takes the top spot does another flood of stories titled "Concerns about Romney's Mormonism" hit the beach? I say two days. Edited November 17, 2011 by RkFast
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Im sure its just conicidence that the minute that Perry, Cain and Gingrich sniffed the top spot in polling, these stories came to light. PLACE YOU BETS NOW..... How long after Romney takes the top spot does another flood of stories titled "Concerns about Romney's Mormonism" hit the beach? I say two days. Sad, but probably true. As I said- American politics is a gladiator's pit and everything goes, unfortunately.
Chef Jim Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Sad, but probably true. As I said- American World politics is a gladiator's pit and everything goes, unfortunately. Corrected for accuracy. And it has always been and always will be.
3rdnlng Posted November 17, 2011 Author Posted November 17, 2011 Dear Mr. I get stepped on when I walk outside by the same people that took my lunch money in school If you couldn't see the sarcasm in that statement, I can't help you. It is a clear fact that our politicians do the wonderful job they do, because of the partisan divide we have. That statement was meant to be nonsense. President Obama is not the socialist that the right makes him out to be and Gingrich isn't the scandalous clod the left makes him out to be (although the hair is terrible). I still don't know what to make of President Bush- he increased spending to include two wars and numerous other things and decreased taxes- and be 'he", I mean the whole government- not him. If it seems like I equivocate on everything, it is because being successful will include a delicate balance of ideas from the right and left- if one side's ideas would fix everything, there would only be one side. If it makes you feel any better, my family thinks I am right wing....... Still equivocating I see. You are right, your statement was nonsense. You say you intended it to be. I say you should work on your sarcasm skills then. As far as the socialism/Czar thing---that's just bizarre, and yes Obama is a socialist.
1billsfan Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Sad, but probably true. As I said- American politics is a gladiator's pit and everything goes, unfortunately. It wasn't for Obama. I bet the percentage of Americans who voted for Obama and knew he voted "present" in the Illinois state legislature 129 times was less than 1 percent.
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Still equivocating I see. You are right, your statement was nonsense. You say you intended it to be. I say you should work on your sarcasm skills then. As far as the socialism/Czar thing---that's just bizarre, and yes Obama is a socialist. Are you implying that you dislike socialism? Thats funny, on a football board. Corrected for accuracy. And it has always been and always will be. I agree with you 100%, but I don't care what goes on in other countries- just ours.
3rdnlng Posted November 17, 2011 Author Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Are you implying that you dislike socialism? Thats funny, on a football board. I agree with you 100%, but I don't care what goes on in other countries- just ours. Now you've done it. Bringing up football on PPP is worse than bringing up politics on TSW. I see where you are going and I'm not going to get sucked into the National Socialistic Football League thing. Edited November 17, 2011 by 3rdnlng
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Now you've done it. Bringing up football on PPP is worse than bringing up politics on TSW. I see where you are going and I'm not going to get sucked into the National Socialistic Football League thing. Not just football, but all pro sports in general. They are all anti-capitalist. Socialism isn't what is best for our country, but it is downgraded by people in our country more than it should be. No economic system is evil- they all can be useful in certain settings. People just like to downgrade what they are told not to like- just like republicans are tirelessly berated in my family gathering.....I won't even get into that.....
Chef Jim Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I agree with you 100%, but I don't care what goes on in other countries- just ours. My point was really that as I said it's always been that way and always will be. If that really bothers you that much I suggest you no longer pay attention to politics.
Adam Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 My point was really that as I said it's always been that way and always will be. If that really bothers you that much I suggest you no longer pay attention to politics. I hear you- but it's a bit too important just to ignore. It would be nice if they didn't cross the line so often......we can hope.
Magox Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Im sure its just conicidence that the minute that Perry, Cain and Gingrich sniffed the top spot in polling, these stories came to light. PLACE YOU BETS NOW..... How long after Romney takes the top spot does another flood of stories titled "Concerns about Romney's Mormonism" hit the beach? I say two days. Romney HAS been at the top, and the reason why he isn't quite as savaged as the rest is well.... Because he is a much more polished politician, and he isn't as susceptible to the gaffes as the others.
Headwest Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Or maybe they're just terrible candidates. Whats more believable, a vast left-wing conspiracy to destroy the right, or a few people not being fit for president? It's a small sample size, but there really isn't a viable presidential candidate in the group for a variety of reasons. I don't know.....there were a whole lot of liberals extremely concerned about Cain's "victims" a week or two ago. Since Cain went down a few points their concern for the "victims" seemed to have disappeared. And now Newts consulting fees are driving the news, the same fess that have been known about and have not been a concern for years.
ny33 Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 So, you would consider voting for Obama again? If Huntsman or Romney doesn't get the nomination, I'd vote for Obama.
WilliamCody Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I don't know.....there were a whole lot of liberals extremely concerned about Cain's "victims" a week or two ago. Since Cain went down a few points their concern for the "victims" seemed to have disappeared. And now Newts consulting fees are driving the news, the same fess that have been known about and have not been a concern for years. Right, but couldn't you just as easily blame this trend on a specious media only out for the latest ratings-gathering scandal as a left-wing conspiracy aimed at bringing down the right?
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/16/8838779-gingrich-cant-say-how-much-he-netted-from-freddie-consulting So, Newt's company gets 1.6 million over 10 years in consulting fees from Freddie Mac and that's a scandal? Maybe the scandal should be that they didn't listen to him? Or maybe the scandal should be that Barney Frank protected his boyfriend's program at Freddie Mac contributing to the collapse of our economy? 1) You begin with the Liberal Media Conspiracy 2) Then you parrot Newt's line of defense verbatim 3) Then you toss in a gratuitous attack on Barney Frank, making sure to make note his sexual orintation in the process How are you not a tool or a troll?
DC Tom Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 1) You begin with the Liberal Media Conspiracy 2) Then you parrot Newt's line of defense verbatim 3) Then you toss in a gratuitous attack on Barney Frank, making sure to make note his sexual orintation in the process How are you not a tool or a troll? Or you could have simply pointed out that Newt being "the latest" to be attacked by the "liberal media" is insanely stupid, since he's been attacked by them since the mid-90s.
BiggieScooby Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 Newt is a fraud. Find another scapegoat company to blame cons.
Juror#8 Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) I wasn't claiming that you did assert that. Fox does have a lot of hotties and surprisingly enough most are intelligent. I think that his point is well taken. Fox gave some pub to this issue. But it's always the "lib media." Surprised Magox hasn't jumped in with his "boogie man" theory. Oh, that's right, you're advocating for conservatives and the "truth" is not an 'a priori,' nor is it objective. Its pendulum only swings in a conservative direction. Just kidding... Edited November 18, 2011 by Juror#8
3rdnlng Posted November 18, 2011 Author Posted November 18, 2011 I think that his point is well taken. Fox gave some pub to this issue. But it's always the "lib media." Surprised Magox hasn't jumped in with his "boogie man" theory. Oh, that's right, you're advocating for conservatives and the "truth" is not an 'a priori,' nor is it objective. Its pendulum only swings in a conservative direction. Just kidding... I don't know what was said on Fox or in what context it was said. It could have been Alan Colmes mumbling something about Newt or one of their other liberal guests saying something in a panel discussion. I guess all I'm pointing out is that the alphabet media is taking turns jumping on whoever seems to be the flavor of the day for the Republicans. They appear to want to dirty everyone of them. If it was the left that was going through this process they wouldn't be anywhere near as harsh.
3rdnlng Posted November 18, 2011 Author Posted November 18, 2011 1) You begin with the Liberal Media Conspiracy 2) Then you parrot Newt's line of defense verbatim 3) Then you toss in a gratuitous attack on Barney Frank, making sure to make note his sexual orintation in the process How are you not a tool or a troll? You are making schit up again, but when you have nothing I guess that's your only option. I began with the Liberal Media feeding frenzy. I defended Newt in my own words with my own opinion. I mentioned Barney Frank's misdeeds that included protecting a failed program that his boyfriend was involved with and said that was part of the real scandal. Please tell me that you are unable to breed.
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